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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:26 PM Jul 2019

7/22 Morning Consult poll, EARLY PRIMARY STATES: Biden 33%, Sanders 21%, Harris 11%, Warren 11%

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/


Buttigieg 6%, Booker 3%, everyone else 2% or less.

Steyer is at 2%, listed between O'Rourke and Yang.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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7/22 Morning Consult poll, EARLY PRIMARY STATES: Biden 33%, Sanders 21%, Harris 11%, Warren 11% (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2019 OP
Sanders doing even better in early primary states. Good to see! Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #1
... Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #4
GO BERNIE!!!! Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #7
Yes, Go Bernie... NNadir Jul 2019 #11
... Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #12
No, I mean away. He won't. He considers coming in second or third proof that the whole world... NNadir Jul 2019 #17
GO BERNIE Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #33
You know it!! Those footsteps Joe hears are Bernie's gainin on him everyday!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #31
Agreed! Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #32
LOL, sums up how alot of us feel onetexan Jul 2019 #13
No, he isn't. Sanders has lost a point since last week's poll: highplainsdem Jul 2019 #5
Easily within the margin of error. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #6
What's steady is Biden's lead. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #8
Not quite Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #9
How does one "capitulate in the polls"? George II Jul 2019 #16
By giving up. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #18
You must have a very unusual source of news... highplainsdem Jul 2019 #19
It's obvious. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #23
It IS obvious... the handwriting's on the wall. Not that Joe can't still recover... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #35
Agreed! Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #36
It's Bernie's time to shine... the sooner some learn to accept that fact, the better! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #43
Candidates don't participate in the polls. Debates? Maybe. Primaries? Definitely. Polls? Never. George II Jul 2019 #27
If they aren't trying to win, their support in the polls will obviously reflect that. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #29
Well, then, judging by the polls and what you just posted. Biden is trying hardest to win. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #30
LOL. Point to you. And yes, Biden's lead is steady. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #41
How will "going steady" win him the nomination? He maxed out in 2016. pnwmom Jul 2019 #22
How many candidates have raised more than 10 million dollars? Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #24
Warren is taking supporters away from Sanders, and beating him in fundraising: highplainsdem Jul 2019 #25
She is not taking away from Sanders. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #37
Mother Jones: 4 Years Ago They Were Feeling the Bern. Now They're Backing Elizabeth Warren. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #38
Because mother Jones totally decided the 2016 election for us, right? Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #39
Doesn't matter. Supporters of other candidates will eventually coalesce around pnwmom Jul 2019 #26
Don't forget race. George II Jul 2019 #28
C'mon man, don't deal in reality! "Sanders is doing even better in early primary states".... George II Jul 2019 #15
Remember, he was behind by 30% in these same polls you cite. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #20
Remember, that was when he was campaigning for a few months. In 2019.... George II Jul 2019 #21
The poll is an online poll. Blue_true Jul 2019 #40
Joe Biden continues STRONGLY in the lead. democratisphere Jul 2019 #2
Steady On Joe Biden.. we need you! Cha Jul 2019 #3
Joe's got this! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #10
In deed, great momentum onetexan Jul 2019 #14
We need Joe more than ever. He's the one that can beat Trump redstateblues Jul 2019 #34
And Joe has the experience,knowledge, qualifications for the job more so than any other candidate. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #42
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jul 2019 #44
I suspect that with any candidate other than Biden... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #45
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. Sanders doing even better in early primary states. Good to see!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jul 2019

He is creeping up to Joe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
11. Yes, Go Bernie...
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jul 2019

...away.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
12. ...
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:40 PM
Jul 2019

YOu mean, way* into the lead!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
17. No, I mean away. He won't. He considers coming in second or third proof that the whole world...
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:48 PM
Jul 2019

...is just dying to have his exalted brilliance at the top of everything.

There's something wrong with everyone who's not Bernie.

I have a vague feeling, not vague really, that we have all be experiencing this sort of thing, on a tragic scale.

I'm not into dogma and slogans, repeating tired old 1960's rhetoric (that was silly even then) in 2019.

I'm an old man and I've lived too long to be a reactionary.

I like people who think. In the primaries I'm ABB, anyone but Bernie. In the bizarre and awful case, and we've seen some bizarre elections in recent years with Putin's "help," that Bernie became the nominee, I'd vote for him, but weep for my country in doing so, a lesser case of a worse thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
33. GO BERNIE
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:18 PM
Jul 2019

And GO WARREN! She is doing great as well

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
31. You know it!! Those footsteps Joe hears are Bernie's gainin on him everyday!!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jul 2019

Just a matter of time now. Go Bernie is right!! Woohoo!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
32. Agreed!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jul 2019

Slow and steady wins the race. Im cool with them thinking Joe has nothing to worry about, honestly. GO BERNIE!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
13. LOL, sums up how alot of us feel
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
5. No, he isn't. Sanders has lost a point since last week's poll:
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:32 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
6. Easily within the margin of error.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jul 2019

He's going steady!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
8. What's steady is Biden's lead.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:35 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
9. Not quite
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jul 2019

One attack had him capitulating in the polls for a short period, which means any other candiddate getting more recognition will crater that lead in minutes. The center is divided more than it has ever been, with two progressive candidates staying strong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. How does one "capitulate in the polls"?
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
18. By giving up.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jul 2019

Which he has all but done at this point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
19. You must have a very unusual source of news...
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
23. It's obvious.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

Some of the hardest things to accept are the things happening right in front of you. Let's talk again early next year and see how it goes. I'm willing to accept I could be completely wrong. But a year away from the last primary is probably not the time to call it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
35. It IS obvious... the handwriting's on the wall. Not that Joe can't still recover...
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:31 PM
Jul 2019

but, it's not lookin good if you consider the number of candidates splitting the progressive vote. As that consolidates, it's pretty much over for Biden.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
36. Agreed!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:33 PM
Jul 2019

I'm quite optimistic

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
43. It's Bernie's time to shine... the sooner some learn to accept that fact, the better!
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jul 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. Candidates don't participate in the polls. Debates? Maybe. Primaries? Definitely. Polls? Never.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
29. If they aren't trying to win, their support in the polls will obviously reflect that.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:06 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
30. Well, then, judging by the polls and what you just posted. Biden is trying hardest to win.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:07 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
41. LOL. Point to you. And yes, Biden's lead is steady. NT
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 12:02 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
22. How will "going steady" win him the nomination? He maxed out in 2016.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

The millions of Hillary voters who chose her over him aren't going to prefer him to one of the many other qualified candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
24. How many candidates have raised more than 10 million dollars?
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jul 2019

And how many of those candidates are progressive, likely to take votes from Bernie? It is far more likely they will take votes away from other centrists like :cough: (Biden):cough:.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
25. Warren is taking supporters away from Sanders, and beating him in fundraising:
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:01 PM
Jul 2019
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/elizabeth-warren-2nd-quarter-fundraising-takeaways/index.html

Her total haul is particularly noteworthy given that the Massachusetts Democrat has declined to hold any high-dollar fundraisers or solicit wealthy donors this year. She outraised -- by about $1 million -- Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, the other candidate in the 2020 field who is currently pursuing a grassroots-only fundraising strategy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
37. She is not taking away from Sanders.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:35 PM
Jul 2019

She is taking away from a bunch of centrist candidates with voters who would likely never consider Sanders in a primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
38. Mother Jones: 4 Years Ago They Were Feeling the Bern. Now They're Backing Elizabeth Warren.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
39. Because mother Jones totally decided the 2016 election for us, right?
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
26. Doesn't matter. Supporters of other candidates will eventually coalesce around
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:02 PM
Jul 2019

another candidate, and so will their dollars.

Elizabeth Warren, for example, is just as strong a progressive as Bernie, without the burden of his record on guns or environmental issues (wanting to send Vermont's waste to Texas.) She is someone who is drawing support from many Hillary voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. Don't forget race.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:06 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. C'mon man, don't deal in reality! "Sanders is doing even better in early primary states"....
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jul 2019


If it was 65-20, it would be EaSiLy iN tHe MaRgIn oF ErRor!!



Remember, previously BS won New Hampshire by 23%, in 2020 he's in second place with Warren nipping at his heels.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
20. Remember, he was behind by 30% in these same polls you cite.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jul 2019

He won Michigan, and was behind by 30%. Do you remember that? selective memory is an incredible thing! HE also outperformed his polling averages in New Hampshire by 10%. My goodness... At that rate, he is indeed still set to win New Hampshire

You were laughing just as hard when Sanders was behind by 30% in the Michigan primary, I'll bet. Not so much after? You might want to save yourself some heartache and not put so much credence on early polling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Remember, that was when he was campaigning for a few months. In 2019....
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

he's been campaigning for 4+ years.

What we heard years ago was "nobody knows him". Now everybody knows him and it's being reflected in the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. The poll is an online poll.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:57 PM
Jul 2019

Usually diehards are the only ones that reply to those polls. I know that Nate rates it B, but I personally would put more faith in poles that use landline and mobile phones, and randomly survey democratic voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. Joe Biden continues STRONGLY in the lead.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,137 posts)
3. Steady On Joe Biden.. we need you!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
10. Joe's got this!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
14. In deed, great momentum
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:44 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
34. We need Joe more than ever. He's the one that can beat Trump
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:21 PM
Jul 2019

I like a lot of our other candidates but I'm just not confident any of them can beat Trump. I think Harris could come close but I don't want to take that chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
42. And Joe has the experience,knowledge, qualifications for the job more so than any other candidate.
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
45. I suspect that with any candidate other than Biden...
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 09:47 AM
Jul 2019

it will come down to a Dem vs. the devil we know. I believe that with any candidate other than Biden, trump would win as the devil we know. Why? Biden is a known quantity.

I sincerely apologize if this offends the the supporters of the other candidates, however:

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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