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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/sanders-white-house-campaign-hit-with-federal-labor-complaint?utm_medium=lawdesk&campaign=5185B15C-AD82-11E9-B01F-FB722AECE977&utm_source=twitterWell, lookie here.
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comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,136 posts)anymore bad press on this.
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nini
(16,672 posts)very interesting timing
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SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)A copy of the charge has not yet been made public, but the agencys July 22 docket lists five potential violations of the National Labor Relations Act. The charge also alleges that the campaign unlawfully discharged an employee, modified a labor contract, and engaged in illegal discipline.
There will be an investigation.
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Tarheel_Dem
(31,232 posts)that the culture of "retaliation" extends to disgruntled staff as well.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)criticize something they are high up in.
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Tarheel_Dem
(31,232 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,232 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,136 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)From the linked article:
"filed by an unnamed individual
Charges to the NLRB can be filed by 'any person' and dont have to come from a campaign
staffer or someone directly affected by the alleged labor law violations
The NLRB has yet to make a determination about whether there is any merit to the allegations.
.......................................................................................
"Anyone" could be dirty tricks by anyone.
Let's get the facts.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He told the Des Moines Register, It does bother me that people are going outside of the process and going to the media. More: That is really not acceptable. It is really not what labor negotiations are about, and its improper.
That public comment puts him on the verge of violating federal labor law by interfering with or retaliating against employees exercise of their rights.
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Farmer-Rick
(10,154 posts)This sounds so vague. Too vague to be taken seriously yet. We'll see.
Besides I don't trust Bloomberg. They published some Russian planted stories without investigating that turned out to be fake news.
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lapucelle
(18,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,154 posts)Which may be more accurate than the other Bloomberg outlets.
I know some people consider it left of center. They are wrong. Most people and websites that rate these things don't have an understanding of how far wacko right this country's has moved and have no idea what hard core left really is. So just move the center to the right and you might be close.
Ever since the Powell memo, the majority of media outlets support most of the right wing policy ideas like deregulation, free market economics, tax cuts create wealth and economic assistance to the poor should not be a responsibility of the government. These assumption are so built into most journalist and their outlets that most of them are not even aware of it.
But thanks for the other links.
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lapucelle
(18,245 posts)As for Bloomberg News, objective analysts rate it as center to left center and highly reliable. It is not unintentionally "right wing" in its selection or coverage of news stories.
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lapucelle
(18,245 posts)without investigating that turned out to be "fake news"?
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vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Doesnt get more front and center than that.
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lapucelle
(18,245 posts)There's a FOIA link on the NLRB.gov page containing the complaint. I would imagine that journalists have already made FOIA requests on this matter.
https://www.nlrb.gov/case/25-CA-245250
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Content suggests it may indeed have come from a (ex?)staffer
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)From the Bloomberg article https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/sanders-campaign-complaint-alleges-retaliation-for-unionizing
Campaign leaders retaliated against me when I organized the bargaining unit and sent an email requesting compliance with the collective employment contract, the anonymous staffer wrote in the charge. The ataffer also said that at least three campaign workers were fired in retaliation for their organizing and union activities, among other allegations.....
The staffer alleged that the campaign failed to notify us upon hire that we had a collective bargaining agreement and maintained that we were at-will. At-will workers generally can be fired at any time and for any reason the employer deems appropriate.
The staffer said campaign management promised some employees housing, and not others, despite that paid housing and expenses are required under the collective bargaining agreement. The Sanders campaign also broke the terms of its collective bargaining agreement by making staff work additional days and failing to provide days off, according to the charge allegations.
These are not not good facts for sanders
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left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)centerpieces of their campaign.
He told the Des Moines Register, It does bother me that people are going outside of the process and going to the media. More: That is really not acceptable. It is really not what labor negotiations are about, and its improper.
That comment to the press puts him on the verge of violating federal labor law by interfering with or retaliating against employees exercise of their rights.
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Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)between his campaign and the union had been worked out....?
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)an anonymous troll filing a complaint. If the glee to join any anti-Bernie campaign here at DU is any indication - the Russians will have a field day messing with our elections. It's fine not to like a particular candidate -- there's some I like a lot more than others. But this kind of crap I wish was beyond everyone's salt lick.
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Hav
(5,969 posts)Could have been a troll, could have also actually been someone who worked for the campaign but now I'm sure more copycats will follow.
I think it's a good thing in theory that anyone can file such a complaint. That anyone can file doesn't make these complaints meaningless. Ultimately, (I hope) the complaint will be be judged based on its merit.
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nini
(16,672 posts)It kinda makes sense.
It's no joke to file a complaint to the National Labor Relations Board. It's not like whining to a local HR rep. If the person is lying then they should have hell to pay.
But, time will tell and I think assuming it's a troll should be 'beyond everyone's salt lick' myself.
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Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)after its been looked into and officially filed or dismissed.
ANYONE can file. They dont have to be part of the union or campaign or anything. Some bot could have filed.
It is absolute a joke to file. Its completely easy to do and you would be surprised how many silly complaints are filed every day.
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nini
(16,672 posts)?
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Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)can file. For any reason. It becomes valid after the complaint t has been worked. This one hasnt yet. It is simply a report that a complaint t was filed. The NLRB has yet to make a determination about whether there is any merit to the allegations. When that happens it becomes, as I said, meaningful. And then there is an actual valid complaint. Not until then.
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Vegas Roller
(704 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)But obviously it only matters who its about. Reason goes out the window when it fits your preferred narrative.
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Vegas Roller
(704 posts)Are you saying it is a witch hunt and the complaint is bogus with no merit?
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Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)is neither valid nor invalid. It hasnt been looked into yet. I dont believe at any time anyone mentioned witch hunt. But you already knew that didnt you?
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You can say that again.
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Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)narrative.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I guess you forgot you said it first..
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Reason goes out the window when it fits your preferred narrative."
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silentEcho
(424 posts)than the one pointing the finger.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Maybe you know the saying, "When you point one finger, there are three fingers pointing back to you." There's another bit of wisdom that goes: "Don't focus on the speck in your brother's eye while ignoring the log in your own eye."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,755 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It would have been fodder for Sanders to talk about their failure with labor issues.
And it wasn't an anonymous troll that made this public statement that borders on violation of labor rights:
It does bother me that people are going outside of the process and going to the media. That is really not acceptable. It is really not what labor negotiations are about, and its improper.
That comment puts him on the verge of violating federal labor law by interfering with or retaliating against employees exercise of their rights.
But I'm sure that he'll soon apologize and say that he 'didn't know' that was labor law, and people will defend him, because he can't really expected to know labor law, because he's too busy fighting for labor laws that protect workers from retaliation by employers for negotiating for better pay, and to guarantee them a living wage.
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Nanjeanne
(4,948 posts)But I dont have telepathic skills like you do n
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)All I have to go on is observation of a candidate, and a knowledge of their previous campaign tactics, and a lack of adoration of any candidate that might feed a confirmation bias to repel inconvenient facts.
Such as viewing an employers staffers organizing into a union to be a progressive feather in the cap of the employer.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You keep avoiding that. You know, the one that comes very close to violating labor law prohibiting management from interfering with or retaliating against employees exercise of their rights.
Here it is again:
It does bother me that people are going outside of the process and going to the media. That is really not acceptable. It is really not what labor negotiations are about, and its improper.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's almost as meaningless and sad to see so many jump to an aggressive defense of a sacred cow (our two complaints being simply six of one and half a dozen of the other in two differently colored boxes).
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"Some are more equal than others."
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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nini
(16,672 posts)Schitt's Creek is one of my favorite shows
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BKDem
(1,733 posts)we have a scandal-free candidate in Donald Trump. Clean as a whistle!
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,456 posts)OF COURSE
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Cha
(297,136 posts)predictable!
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,136 posts)twitter thread is funny.
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RandySF
(58,755 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)It is hard to overcome hypocrisy over issues one champions.
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trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)These are serious charges that need to be investigated
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trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)Sanders White House Campaign Hit with Federal Labor Complaint
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/sanders-white-house-campaign-hit-with-federal-labor-complaint?utm_medium=lawdesk&campaign=5185B15C-AD82-11E9-B01F-FB722AECE977&utm_source=twitter
Well, lookie here.
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)These are serious charges that will be investigated. I am glad that sanders is being vetted
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)How one manages a campaign is a window to one's governing abilities.
If one can't even run a flawless campaign, how can one be expected of running a country?
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MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)I would wager real money that this came from a GOP plant trying to sow discord. Either way, it will be settled quickly to everyone's satisfaction.
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)The staffer said campaign management promised some employees housing, and not others, despite that paid housing and expenses are required under the collective bargaining agreement. The Sanders campaign also broke the terms of its collective bargaining agreement by making staff work additional days and failing to provide days off, according to the charge allegations.
Many of the allegations appear to have occurred at least a month prior to the recent compromise reached between campaign workers and management that reduced the hours worked. The timing of other allegations was redacted.
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)She was one of the former workers who complained about sexual harassment by the sanders campaign See https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016224223 Sarah was excluded from the 30 minute meeting that was supposed to address these issues
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lapucelle
(18,245 posts)https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5671807-Sanders-Campaign-Harassment-Letter.html#document/p1
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)Link to tweet
Campaign leaders retaliated against me when I organized the bargaining unit and sent an email requesting compliance with the collective employment contract, the anonymous staffer wrote in the charge. The ataffer also said that at least three campaign workers were fired in retaliation for their organizing and union activities, among other allegations.
The campaign leadership, from Sen. Sanders on down, respects the rights of all of its employees to speak collectively and bargain about their terms and conditions of employment, and it supports the mission of the NLRB to enforce worker and union rights, a campaign spokeswoman told Bloomberg Law via email. That is exactly why the Bernie 2020 campaign voluntarily recognized the employees chosen union and engaged in good faith bargaining that resulted in an historic collective bargaining agreement.
The allegations come shortly after a tense period in the relationship between the Sanders campaign and the union representing its staffers was recently made public. The internal disagreements sparked some criticism of the White House candidatewho has made worker rights a central part of his pitch to votersfrom conservatives and Republican politicians.
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)These are serious charges https://laborunionreport.com/2019/07/25/ulp-charge-against-sanders-campaign-detail-classic-union-busting-allegations/
The employer failed to notify us upon hire that we had a CBA and maintained that we were at-will. Employer violated the CBA by requiring additional work days, and failing to provide days off as required. Employer further violated the CBA in multiple ways, and the Union did nothing (I will be filing a DFR against them). At hiring, employer promised some employees housing, and not others; some were promised expenses, and others were not. The CBA requires relocation expenses be paid. Employer retaliated against me when I organized the bargaining unit and sent an email requesting compliance with the CBA (I understand CBA violations are not ULPs the ULP arises from the retaliation).
The allegations contained within the unfair fair labor practice charge are the type that employers often face when they are accused of so-called union busting. . . except the Sanders campaign purposefully unionized its own staff.
These are classic union busting type allegations are taken seriously by the officials and the courts. The petition has the following specific allegations
Within the previous six months, the Employer discharged an employee(s) because the employee(s) joined or supported a labor organization and in order to discourage union activities and/or membership.
Within the previous six months, the Employer discharged an employee(s) because the employee(s) engaged in protected concerted activities by, inter alia, discussing wages and/or other terms and conditions of employment and in order to discourage employees from engaging in protected concerted activities.
Within the previous six months, the Employer discharged an employee(s) because the employee(s) engaged in protected concerted activities by, inter alia, protesting terms and conditions of employment and in order to discourage employees from engaging in protected concerted activities.
Within the previous six months, the Employer disciplined or retaliated against an employee(s) because the employee(s) joined or supported a labor organization and in order to discourage union activities and/or membership.
Within the previous six months, the Employer disciplined or retaliated against an employee(s) because the employee(s) engaged in protected concerted activities by, inter alia, discussing wages, hours, or other terms and conditions of employment and in order to discourage employees from engaging in protected concerted activities.
Within the previous six months, the Employer disciplined or retaliated against an employee(s) because the employee(s) engaged in protected concerted activities by, inter alia, protesting terms and conditions of employment and in order to discourage employees from engaging in protected concerted activities.
Within the previous six-months, the Employer has interfered with, restrained, and coerced its employees in the exercise of rights protected b Section 7 of the Act b interrogating employees about their union activities.
Within the previous six months, the Employer failed and refused to bargain in good faith with the union as the collective bargaining representative of its employees by making unilateral changes in terms and conditions of employment.
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nini
(16,672 posts)thanks
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)Link to tweet
At the end of the filing, the charging party included additional information in support of the claims, including accusations that the campaign failed to notify us upon hire that there was a collective bargaining agreement and that it violated the agreement by requiring additional workdays.
That earlier complaint hinted at a forthcoming action against the union. The Union did nothing to address the issues with the campaign, it says, adding, I will be filing a DFR against them. A DFR often refers to a duty of fair representation, which is what was filed Thursday against the union.
The charge against the Sanders campaign also alleges, At hiring, employer promised some employees housing, and not others; some were promised expenses, and others were not. The [collective bargaining agreement] requires relocation expenses be paid. Employer retaliated against me when I organized the bargaining unit and sent an email requesting compliance with the CBA.
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
That's no bueno.
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silentEcho
(424 posts)It does bother me that people are going outside of the process and going to the media. That is really not acceptable. It is really not what labor negotiations are about, and its improper.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided