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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:02 AM Jul 2019

How many Candidates do you want in the September debates?

I have to be honest, I’m only up for one more of these 2 night 20 candidate free for all’s next week.
After that, I hope that we have it narrowed down to about the Top 8-10 for September.

Here’s the latest realclearpolitics averages for all of our candidates.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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How many Candidates do you want in the September debates? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 OP
Agreed. nt oldsoftie Jul 2019 #1
As many as qualify for them Sherman A1 Jul 2019 #2
Yup, all of them...whoever remains or qualifies. Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #53
8 or so. These aren't debates at all. mahina Jul 2019 #3
There's just too little time for responses. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #4
i only want to see 6 up there .. 3 women and 3 men trueblue2007 Jul 2019 #40
8 is enough crazytown Jul 2019 #5
I'm old enuf to remember a tv show by that name Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #7
Confession: me 2. crazytown Jul 2019 #9
Fun Fact: "8 is enough" was based on a book by Tom Braden, the CNN "Crossfire" host brooklynite Jul 2019 #28
If it was up to me, we would have no more than 10 next week LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #6
The five who have a shot. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2019 #8
For partisan political reasons I would add Beto - crazytown Jul 2019 #10
But if you let in Beto, you need to let in Texan Castro too. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #13
Beto scores 2.5x times Castro crazytown Jul 2019 #16
He's barely at 1%. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2019 #20
RCP Average, 2.8% crazytown Jul 2019 #23
17% in Texas according to the latest poll. TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #27
Buttigieg was leading Iowa with 25% 3 weeks weeks ago in one poll has been in that 8% to 14% range Celerity Jul 2019 #43
No more than five people on the stage at once. RDANGELO Jul 2019 #11
Agreed Capt. America Jul 2019 #42
My only codicil would be that I think that all Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #12
If CNN had 2 debates of 5 it would have been crazytown Jul 2019 #18
I'd be ok with those if Marianne could still sage the stage. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #21
Williamson is a zero chance candidate don't you think? crazytown Jul 2019 #24
I was just being a little snarky. No, she shouldn't be there. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #25
Five people on stage is plenty. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2019 #46
One. Two-hoo! Three. NurseJackie Jul 2019 #14
Warren and Biden. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #15
Uh oh, you gonna get a lot of incoming, u better 🦆. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #17
Popcorn ! crazytown Jul 2019 #19
7/8 JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #22
Four and no more Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2019 #26
It would be hard to pass over the guy who raised the most money last quarter, crazytown Jul 2019 #29
1. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #30
All who are polling over 3% Amishman Jul 2019 #31
Seven, with none of them having the name, Cory Booker. oasis Jul 2019 #32
True undecided SomewhereInTheMiddle Jul 2019 #33
3. Harris, Warren, Biden....nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #34
4. Maybe 5. TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #35
6 or 8 will be a good mix.. Peacetrain Jul 2019 #36
Biden Harris Warren Sanders, perhaps Buttigieg but he seems to be in decline tritsofme Jul 2019 #37
Buttigieg raised $25m - the most money. crazytown Jul 2019 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #50
Money - it's is not the amount per se crazytown Jul 2019 #51
Definitely a good to keep him around for now. tritsofme Jul 2019 #57
He isn't in a position to get any delegates Indygram Jul 2019 #59
Beto's going broke crazytown Jul 2019 #60
I want a debate every week with all the candidates Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #38
ROFLMAO! Okay, points for making me spill coffee through the nose. Amimnoch Jul 2019 #49
7 Trenzalore Jul 2019 #39
No more than 10. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #41
5-6 RandySF Jul 2019 #44
Four. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2019 #45
No more than six would be ideal; eight max hlthe2b Jul 2019 #48
Let the people decide! BlueJac Jul 2019 #52
All of them. It distracts the media with something innocuous and helps bankrupt the troll employers. Deb Jul 2019 #54
4 sounds about right to me. secondwind Jul 2019 #55
All of them n/t Shrek Jul 2019 #56
No more than six, I think. Four would be preferable. MineralMan Jul 2019 #58
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. As many as qualify for them
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:04 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Farmer-Rick

(10,150 posts)
53. Yup, all of them...whoever remains or qualifies.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 07:42 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mahina

(17,636 posts)
3. 8 or so. These aren't debates at all.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:08 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
4. There's just too little time for responses.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:10 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(17,201 posts)
40. i only want to see 6 up there .. 3 women and 3 men
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
7. I'm old enuf to remember a tv show by that name
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:12 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
28. Fun Fact: "8 is enough" was based on a book by Tom Braden, the CNN "Crossfire" host
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 08:30 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LuvNewcastle

(16,843 posts)
6. If it was up to me, we would have no more than 10 next week
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:12 AM
Jul 2019

and 5 or 6 for September. After that, they would be required to get at least 10% in the polls to get on stage. Our candidates are much more similar than different, so we really aren't helping ourselves by having them all muddying up the water.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueTsunami2018

(3,488 posts)
8. The five who have a shot.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:14 AM
Jul 2019

Joe, Kamala, Elizabeth, Bernie and Pete. The other guys really should just go back to what they were doing. It’s absurd to have this many candidates in there who have zero chance. It comes off as ridiculous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. For partisan political reasons I would add Beto -
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:17 AM
Jul 2019

ain't no point in alienating Texas.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
13. But if you let in Beto, you need to let in Texan Castro too.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:21 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
16. Beto scores 2.5x times Castro
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:28 AM
Jul 2019

so no I think.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueTsunami2018

(3,488 posts)
20. He's barely at 1%.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:41 AM
Jul 2019

Ultimately it doesn’t matter because it’s my personal preference. I’m sure the DNC isn’t going to listen to me. 😃

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TexasTowelie

(112,056 posts)
27. 17% in Texas according to the latest poll.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 07:34 AM
Jul 2019

That would actually earn him delegates for the national convention. Currently, Buttigieg would not be awarded any delegates based upon individual state polls since he does not meet the 15% threshold anywhere.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Celerity

(43,240 posts)
43. Buttigieg was leading Iowa with 25% 3 weeks weeks ago in one poll has been in that 8% to 14% range
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 03:11 AM
Jul 2019

in most though, so it is an outlier and his trend-lines are down He is overall stuck now at in 6% to 9% area in most all state polls, except obviously SC, where he is . He and Warren are really hurting with A-A's overall. That South Bend cop shooting tragedy has really stalled Buttigieg out.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ymbocHDaQhK_kXU8VxIUdADKMZR3ZtDqjWUfuuk2GhA/edit#gid=0



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
11. No more than five people on the stage at once.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:18 AM
Jul 2019

If they want to have it for two nights fine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
12. My only codicil would be that I think that all
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:20 AM
Jul 2019

legitimate candidates should get a shot at being in one debate.
Would like to see Steyer, Sestak, and Moulton qualify in September.
Am glad that Governor Bullock gets a shot next week.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
18. If CNN had 2 debates of 5 it would have been
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:33 AM
Jul 2019

Night 1


Night 2


Can anyone say we would have been seriously worse off.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
21. I'd be ok with those if Marianne could still sage the stage.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:44 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
24. Williamson is a zero chance candidate don't you think?
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 07:08 AM
Jul 2019

We are not holding debates for entertainment.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
25. I was just being a little snarky. No, she shouldn't be there.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 07:27 AM
Jul 2019

Some people think you should spread sage around rooms to wipe away demons.
I was just teasing Marianne little. Not very nice of me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
46. Five people on stage is plenty. NT
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 04:57 AM
Jul 2019

NT

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. One. Two-hoo! Three.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:22 AM
Jul 2019

Three!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
15. Warren and Biden.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:27 AM
Jul 2019

I’m good there.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
17. Uh oh, you gonna get a lot of incoming, u better 🦆.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:32 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
19. Popcorn !
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:35 AM
Jul 2019

(and I agree with you + Harris)

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JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
22. 7/8
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:54 AM
Jul 2019

That gives more time for more questions and each person can answer the same question.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
26. Four and no more
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 07:32 AM
Jul 2019

The rest out and supporting one of the contenders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
29. It would be hard to pass over the guy who raised the most money last quarter,
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 08:33 AM
Jul 2019

and/or dropping Bernie would start a riot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
30. 1.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 08:47 AM
Jul 2019

Yes, I know it’s silly as hell to say it, but I’d so love it if we just had 1 that could start immediately going after Cheetolini.

Cheetolini’s war chest is getting HUGE without having to worry about a Primary.

Thanks to President Obama, and the Democratic Party majorities of 2009/2010 in Congress.. the ones that turned around the Great Recession, and have given us an economy so strong that even Cheetolini’s destructive crushing debt charity to the wealthy hasn’t been able to quash.. Wonderful for the country, but this is going to complicate getting Cheeto outed in 2020.. Very rare for an incumbent to be voted out during a strong economy.

Such a plethora of wonderful candidates we have to pick from, but damn if this isn’t a bad time for it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Amishman

(5,554 posts)
31. All who are polling over 3%
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:13 AM
Jul 2019

I'd also cut several debates from the calendar overall

12 debates is crazy, and makes it far too easy to beat ourselves up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,365 posts)
32. Seven, with none of them having the name, Cory Booker.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:47 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
33. True undecided
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:48 AM
Jul 2019

As a true undecided, I am making a conscious decision not to get involved heavily with any of the candidates until there are far fewer. I don’t want to waste effort by investigating the platform and backgrounds of people, only for them to disappear before I ever get to vote in a primary (April 28). I don’t want to become emotional/intellectually invested in backing a contender only for them to drop out, then to do the same thing again before that person also drops out. This leads to depression and defeatism. If I were in an early primary state I would need to do due diligence on more candidates. But at this point I choose to wait.

Given that, I wish the debates were limited to candidates that were polling at least 3-5%. According to the RCP link that would leave us with 5 (6 if we round up on O’Rourke). I think that is reasonable.

At the same time I would like to see several of the other candidates (especially the current/former governors) target the Senate or the cabinet. There are a lot of good minds in the running. There are also a lot of offices that need filling. Maybe they should not all shoot for the top job this year.

Ultimately I will vote for the democrat in the general election. As I am in a swing state I hope that vote matters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
34. 3. Harris, Warren, Biden....nt
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:30 AM
Jul 2019

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,873 posts)
36. 6 or 8 will be a good mix..
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
37. Biden Harris Warren Sanders, perhaps Buttigieg but he seems to be in decline
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jul 2019

The rest are just distractions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
47. Buttigieg raised $25m - the most money.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 05:01 AM
Jul 2019

Can't count that out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to crazytown (Reply #47)

 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
51. Money - it's is not the amount per se
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 07:34 AM
Jul 2019

It is the indication that a candidate can conduct a prolonged, viable campaign, with the resources to maintain an effective ground game. It is for this reason, that Buttigieg deserves a place on the debate stage - he can't be counted in the long term on the basis of current polling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
57. Definitely a good to keep him around for now.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jul 2019

However his polling rut seems to indicate there is trouble ahead.

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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
59. He isn't in a position to get any delegates
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 07:52 PM
Jul 2019

No amount of donations will change that. You can't win the nomination without delegates. I don't foresee him ever improving his support with people of color, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
60. Beto's going broke
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 08:33 PM
Jul 2019

I would prefer to be in Pete's lane.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
38. I want a debate every week with all the candidates
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jul 2019

moderated by Simon Cowell, Gordon Ramsey and Jennifer Lopez. At the end of each debate, they eliminate one candidate and do that each week until there are only 2 left.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
49. ROFLMAO! Okay, points for making me spill coffee through the nose.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 07:00 AM
Jul 2019

Extra sad thing is.. that kind of sensationalized politicking might actually work to drum up interest in our election process with the low information low attention span population.

Maybe even cycle it out some.. do the Simon/Gordon/J-Lo for a couple of weeks then add in others..

Have a few weeks of Heidi Klum/Michael Kors/Nina Garcia judging where each candidate has 1 day to “tailor” up an 100 days in office agenda.

Then put all remaining candidates on an island for a few weeks where they vote each other off after each episode hosted by Jeff Probst.. Survivor POTUS.



Recommend NOT doing a Naked and afraid version..

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
39. 7
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jul 2019

I think that is a number that gives enough time for them all to speak longer than a minute and mix it up if they want to.

The top 7 should be on stage and the rest off.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,188 posts)
48. No more than six would be ideal; eight max
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 06:34 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
52. Let the people decide!
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 07:35 AM
Jul 2019

If they qualify so be it.

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Deb

(3,742 posts)
54. All of them. It distracts the media with something innocuous and helps bankrupt the troll employers.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 08:00 AM
Jul 2019

I love seeing all these great people together.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
55. 4 sounds about right to me.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 08:06 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
58. No more than six, I think. Four would be preferable.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 02:39 PM
Jul 2019

Until we narrow the field down, we cannot begin to predict who the nominee will be. We need, in the later debates to limit the number of candidates so the finalists have time to give more detailed responses to questions and answer other questions.

Next week, we'll have another pair of debates. If candidates do not rise above 5% in reliable polls, they should withdraw from the race voluntarily. That would be the reasonable thing for them to do. If they do not, at some point the debates need to be restricted to no more than the 6 candidate who have achieved the best poll results on average.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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