The Joe Biden 5-Point Plan

[Gothmog]

I like this plan https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/13/the-joe-biden-5-point-plan/

Mike Allen outlines the case that Joe Biden is expected to make if he runs for president:

The great white (voter) hope: I can bring back the rural, white, mostly male voters who sealed the presidency for Donald Trump. Think Wisconsin.

I’m liberal — just not that liberal. And too liberal won’t win.

Been there, done that: In this dangerous chaotic world, we need a steady hand — not someone who’s playing or practicing president.

Remember last year when I said: “If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.” Well, game on: Trump won’t intimidate or bully me.

If you’re looking for a rising star, there’s a low-risk place on the ticket — next to me.

A Biden/Harris or a Biden/Beto team would be hard to beat

[RandySF]

1. The first paragraph of the article is trash

[Kurt V.]

2. is this case for or against

[Celerity]

29. roflaooooooo so so true

[workinclasszero]

3. The devil is in the details

And I see no details from Joe. Go figure.

When is Joe going to clearly state his views on climate change, 15 dollar wage, medicare for all, tax policies toward the rich and corporations that pay none now, our insane defense budget, endless wars etc?

[TexasTowelie]

5. Would sooner than Bernie release his tax returns be sufficient? nt

[oasis]

10. Bernie said "soon" the other day, so a least we're getting closer. nt

[NurseJackie]

17. BS is never going to release his tax returns. If BS had any intention of releasing them...

BS is never going to release his tax returns. If BS had any intention of releasing them, it would have already been done.

It's not like they're "incomplete" or anything. It's not like they're "still working on them" or anything. After all... if they were complete enough to submit to the IRS, then those tax returns are complete enough to release to the American public.

No... something tells me that someone has made a deliberate decision to NOT release them. Someone on the campaign has weighed the pros-and-cons... calculated the pluses-and-minuses... and determined that the "fallout" from not releasing the tax returns is more acceptable than the "fallout" of going ahead and releasing them.

All I'm saying is that's certainly what it appears to be and it's a logical conclusion to make... there's simply no other reason that any "serious" candidate would do something that's tarnishing their campaign, reputation, and making people question things like integrity and honesty.

In the end, it simply makes no good sense for this strategy to continue. As voters, we deserve to know where a candidate's money comes from, where the spouse's money comes from, how it's being invested, where it's being saved (domestic or offshore), what charities (if any) or other contributions (if any) have been made, and whether the taxes have been properly paid... or whether there are other potential conflicts of interest that we voters should know about BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

[oasis]

20. The next interviewer needs to call him out on it. nt

[NurseJackie]

21. I completely agree and I hope an interviewer DOES "hold his feet to the fire" on this.

The American people deserve to know the truth. We deserve to know what they're hiding.

[ehrnst]

22. Any candidate that cannot tolerate their feet held to the fire will never

make it through the GE.

[George II]

15. Probably when he formally announces perhaps?

I think he's already released his tax returns.

[treestar]

23. how many years has he been in the Senate or VP or running for who knows what?

Or campaigning for others?

Hard to believe no one can figure out his position on anything.

[Persondem]

25. The article isn't about what Biden said about his potential campaign.

It's some guy named Mike Allen opining on what he thinks Biden's main points will be.

[dawg day]

28. Joe didn't write this.

It's trash punditry. He's pretending to channel Biden and say what "Biden really thinks!"
It shouldn't be published. I don't know why the editors allow it.

[vlyons]

4. I love Biden

I really do. But I haven't forgiven him for Clarence Thomas, or his stance on busing, or his opposition to Warren's CFPB

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/02/the-2020-race-could-revive-a-bitter-feud-between-joe-biden-and-elizabeth-warren/

[workinclasszero]

6. Yeah

I can’t wait for Joe to start having to defend his record.

[Thekaspervote]

30. Bernie has a lot of defending to do... maybe look at your own stuff first?

[dalton99a]

14. Another big issue: Student debt in bankruptcy

Student debt is a favorite topic of Beto - which is why I don't see a Biden/Beto ticket

[TCJ70]

7. This is not a plan...

1. OK, sure.
2. Translation: Don't get your hopes up!
3. Everyone except an incumbent is learning on the job in the presidency. He's never been there or done this.
4. I don't think any of our candidates are intimidated or scared of Trump. He will, of course, find stupid things to say about everyone to rile up his base of morons, though. Can't really stop him.
5. Pride comes before the fall.

I have nothing against Biden...but going with him just seems like looking to the past for solutions. I'll be interested to see what his actual plans are regarding his policy stances.

[WeekiWater]

8. I keep saying this.

Biden is running by far the best campaign.

I’m going to feel like a fool if he doesn’t jump in but everything I’m seeing tells me the campaign has been in full force for some time. Included regularly planted pieces and surrogates generating stories with well placed comments.

[peggysue2]

9. I agree.

Joe Biden's been running an under-the-radar campaign all along. This is just one more tidbit to remind people:

I'm a go, people. Gears in motion even before I start.

LOL.

[bigtree]

11. he's admiting he's damp toast

...while disingenuously portraying Biden's opponents as "too liberal."

White males already receive the lion's share of almost everything that is successful, profitable, or influential in America, so it's unremarkable to me that this white male is planning on embracing other white males.

The 'steady hand' nonsense is just chest-thumping. If he can't find ways other than machismo to confront bullies, he's angling to become the new bully on the block. I don't need a fist-fighter, I need a leader acting on issues and concerns that actually affect our lives with humility and compassion.

None of our candidates need Biden to shepherd them, or chaperone them into the WH.

[Persondem]

26. You realize the "he" who is speaking in the article is some guy named Mike Allen, right?

The articles is a summation of Mr. Allen's opinion of what he thinks are Biden's positives.

[bigtree]

32. why'd you kick this old post?

...weird.

Reading comprehension helps here.

[Persondem]

33. Because 6-7 people kicked this OP earlier today and it showed up near the top of

my feed.

"Reading comprehension helps here." .... Hey, that's my line

[forklift]

12. I love Biden

Actually, I love any candidate whose name doesn't contain the word sand.

[peggysue2]

13. Hummmm . . .

What a puzzle!

[George II]

16. There used to be a Representative from New Jersey named Charles Sandman. But he was a republican.

[forklift]

18. I wouldn't have liked him either

[George II]

19. He was one of the last holdouts against impeaching Nixon, even after all the evidence was laid out..

....and the "smoking gun" was revealed.

[treestar]

24. lol

Yep, I love every one of the Democratic party candidates!

[Thekaspervote]

31. Good one!

[dawg day]

27. I hate when pundits pretend that they are speaking in the voice of the politician

It's cheap, it's false, and it isn't fair to the politician-- you know, the ones who seldom seem to have any problem speaking for themselves.