Marianne Williamson: Trump Tweets Beyond Racism... This Is the Work of a Serious Sociopathic Demagogue

[highplainsdem]

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/marianne-williamson-trump-tweets-beyond-racism-this-is-the-work-of-a-serious-sociopathic-demagogue/

Marianne Williamson appeared on MSNBC ahead of this week’s Democratic presidential debates and weighed in on President Donald Trump‘s tweets going after Baltimore and Congressman Elijah Cummings.

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MSNBC’s Alex Witt asked Williamson about it today and she said, “My message is not to the president except that we’re gonna get you for this stuff.”

“My message is to the American people. Be very careful and know what this is,” she continued. “This is beyond racism. This is beyond just weaponizing Tweets. This is the work of a serious sociopathic demagogue. What this man does is he makes warning shots. You in any way mess with me, he says, I’m coming after you. That’s why so many Republicans will not take him on. That’s why so many Republicans chose not to even run again.”

She knocked acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney for his earlier comments on the president’s tweets, adding, “The lying here, the demagoguery here is extremely dangerous.”

Video at the link.


Not anywhere near my favorite candidate, but she's absolutely right about this.

And btw, Trump just called Elijah Cummings racist:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212326186

[gordianot]

1. As recognized by every Psychologist and therapist I know.

I used to travel in those circles at least 6 I know personally have made the same comment. Ethics demands they do not discuss this in public and even if they did have personal contact (virtually impossible) would not discuss what they know. One thing Trump will never do is allow an examiner or therapist anywhere near him. Most people who have rudimentary understanding of DSM or have had contact with these issues know what Trump represents and that he is toxic.

[Javaman]

5. Check this out...

I post this every chance I get. this is trumpy the shit clown...
The Dark Triad...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

The dark triad in psychology refers to the personality traits of narcissism, machiavellianism, and psychopathy,[1][2][3][4] which are called "dark" because of their malevolent qualities.[5][1][6][7]

Research on the dark triad is used in applied psychology, especially within the fields of law enforcement, clinical psychology, and business management. People scoring high on these traits are more likely to commit crimes, cause social distress and create severe problems for an organization, especially if they are in leadership positions (for more information, see psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism in the workplace).

All three dark triad traits are conceptually distinct although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous-manipulative interpersonal style.[8]

Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[9]
Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, an absence of morality, and a higher level of self interest.[10]
Psychopathy is characterized by continuous antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits (CU),[11] and remorselessness.[12]
A factor analysis carried out at the Glasgow Caledonian University found that among the big five personality traits, low agreeableness is the strongest correlate of the dark triad, while neuroticism and a lack of conscientiousness were associated with some of the dark triad members.[10]

[LittleGirl]

6. Javaman that's it! Dark Triad

Omg, nailed.
Wow.

[PatrickforO]

16. This is very interesting. It also has spiritual implications. To wit:

At some point in everyone's life there comes a time when they must decide if they are going to follow the light or descend into darkness.

Light is the way of love, humility, compassion, wisdom and understanding.

Darkness is predicated on the two big illusions - wealth and power. Those who descend into the dark have chosen to pursue the amassing of wealth and power with their whole spirit, and in the end there is room for nothing else. This is why Trump seems utterly incapable of any compassion.

At his age Trump probably won't be able to reform himself, because it is unlikely he is capable of true remorse.

I feel bad for him, his family, but I feel even worse for the millions he has victimized with his racism, misogyny, greed and lust for power. Our nation really got sold a bill of goods by Mr. Vladimir Putin et al. It will take decades for us to clean it up, and to restore the faith of decent people in the institutions that make up the bedrock of this republic.

[patphil]

24. I don't recommend you feel bad for Trump,

or give him love in any way shape or form. The man is not a victim, he is a fully functioning dark one.
He knows what he does, and his base is very much aware of his racist, misogynist, narcissist, greedy hate driven ways. They don't care one bit about all that. He validates their hatred, and that's what they want.

Trump is the Father of Lies, and his base revels in it.
And, yes, it will take decades to clean up his/their mess.
The nation, and those he has hurt, may never fully recover.

Patrick Phillips

[gordianot]

21. Having some experience with just plain old Narcissist.

There is no reasoning with them you do not modify their behavior, by definition they do not want to change. In family situations it is best to get as far away from them as possible, change your name find protective housing. This man is unique in our political history, just surviving him will be a major accomplishment.

[Midnight Writer]

29. Dark triad traits are in evidence in groups as well as in individuals.

America is being headfucked. Psychological advertising techniques are being used on people with an unprecedented amount of personal data on them to work with.


Politics is no longer about policies or service or morality. It is about exploiting personalities.

[Cha]

2. Yes! Thank You!

[cilla4progress]

3. What am I missing?

Though I'm not sure of her qualifications for President...

I think hers is a valuable voice in the mix. Saw her on Colbert and her message was great, there was enthusiastic applause.

[MontanaMama]

10. Agree 100% with your post.

I was angry that so many DUers ridiculed her after the debate. She won’t be our nominee but what she brings to the conversation is important. I am proud to be a member of a party where someone running on a platform of love and justice makes the debate stage.

[cilla4progress]

12. Yes, I was very disappointed with

Sam Bee, and MSNBC talking heads who I thought actually bullied Ms. Williamson after the debate!

[Me.]

31. And Yet...A Couple Of Weeks Ago I Heard John Lewis Speaking

and his message that day reminded me very much of what she has been saying.

Those who make fun of her betray their own inert shallowness.

[JI7]

13. it's self promotion. and we had an actual governor of a red state who wasn't able to get on

the debate stage. but some anti science self promoting type took up space and time.

[MontanaMama]

17. Gov Bullock will be in the next debate.

And I’m really glad about that. He didn’t make the last debate because he didn’t meet the donor/fundraising criteria...and Williamson did. Is she promoting herself? Maybe...but every single candidate up there is also promoting themselves. They're all interviewing for a job of some kind. I’m not a fan of everything she says and I don’t think she’s qualified to be president but she didn’t keep Gov Bollock off the stage.

[JI7]

18. yes she did. by having too many candidates. including self promoters to sell their shit

but i blame perez for the stupid qualifications.

[patphil]

25. I fully agree. Not sure she would make a viable candidate, but her message is worth hearing.

[NBachers]

4. At the risk of being scorned or vilified, I have given Marianne more recognition here than most.

[murielm99]

7. I find myself agreeing with her.

I don't want her to be our nominee, but she is right about this.

[silentEcho]

8. Too bad she spent 2016 bad mouthing Clinton stating she was not much better than Trump.

I would like for her to acknowledge the error of her past.

[DinahMoeHum]

9. Even though she ain't POTUS material IMO. . .

. . .she is spot on in this particular regard.

[zentrum]

11. She's wonderful in so

.....many ways. Well said.

[colsohlibgal]

14. She Came Off Well On Colbert

She is obviously multiple times as smart as the Orange Twitler and I am impressed with her every time I hear her. She has virtually no chance and I wish she did.

My hope with people like her is that they can push the field left.

[JI7]

20. look at post 15. i hope she doesn't influence actual good liberal Democrats

with her bs.

[octoberlib]

15. What is it when you tell gay men with AIDS that they got sick because they hated themselves?

Or when you say things like overweight women aren't spiritually intelligent? Williamson has said both these things. Williamson may not be a dangerous sociopath ( although she has counselled people to go off all their medications and use positive thinking to get rid of disease. That might have caused some deaths) but she is a charlation and snake oil saleswomen.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/marianne-williamson-longtime-wacko-is-now-a-dangerous-wacko

[JI7]

19. +++++++++++

and many people have said how bad trump is. there is nothing so great in that itself that we need them on the debate stage.

i find her condescending and as you say anti science snake oil salesman.

[octoberlib]

27. She's very condescending. She did an anti-vaxx tweet, deleted it after she got called out

on it and then went on CNN and told people not to trust the scientists at the CDC. One of her supporters on Twitter told me that Marianne was "on a different plane than most people" . Yeah, she's unusually good at scamming tons of money of off her supporters. if that's what being on a different plane means.

[gordianot]

23. That is interesting, Narcissist eat positive reinforcement for lunch.

Thank you for the information.

[octoberlib]

28. Most people have never heard of her. Those that have, don't know much about her.

[shadowmayor]

22. CC Cat sez

She's making good points Dave!

[NNadir]

26. Next she'll let me know that the sun appears every day at dawn. n/t

[JI7]

30. +