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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:39 PM Jul 2019

To my way of looking at it, Warren and Sanders are pied pipers. Bold plans bold plans

everyone follow me.

Follow you to trump’s second term.

The winning ticket is a combination of Biden and Harris. I hope they don’t attack each other tonight.

They get the black vote, the women’s vote, the rust belt vote. And most everyone else including the millennials who bother to vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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silentEcho

(424 posts)
1. I do see Sanders as pied piper. I see Warren solidly with feet on ground.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jul 2019

I see them differently because I see Sanders wants to explode all up and start from scratch, that he cannot even preconceive progression to goal. I feel Warren will work within the party, advancing what we have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
4. She needs to detail how her plans will be paid for and how they can get through Congress.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:46 PM
Jul 2019

That is my problem with her. I can come up with plans too. That isn’t enough. She need to get down to earth and pragmatic. She is too raw raw for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
5. I need to get information to see if she has done it, and exactly what was said at the debate.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jul 2019

I do not have that information and I cannot trust another to be educated about Warren to an extent to have or not have that information. So, I can't really address what you are saying. I don't know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
9. Have you even looked at her website?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

Here are her well-thought out policy proposals with funding:
https://elizabethwarren.com/issues

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
2. Could be the most on-point description of Sanders I've ever heard.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jul 2019

Warren is shaping things from within. She is taking a more powerful position moving forward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
3. the pied piper did what he promised he would . the town refused to pay. so yeah. :)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:46 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

at140

(6,110 posts)
7. Warren has10 times more experience than Harris
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jul 2019

on issues dealing with Wall Street, Banking and Finance. Trump is leading us towards another
Bush-43 style financial meltdown caused by excessive spending combined with taxcuts for
corporations and the uber wealthy. I don't know if you remember what the last meltdown did
to homeowners and investors. Corporate tax rates went down whopping 40% under Trump!

The Trump engineered financial meltdown will make the Bush meltdown look like a Sunday school picnic. Only Warren has the knowledge of those critical issues, while Harris has a prosecutor's career
behind her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nini

(16,672 posts)
14. Can she do all that without Congress?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jul 2019

Or will she be using executive orders?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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at140

(6,110 posts)
15. No less than president Harris can on those issues
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:46 PM
Jul 2019

and the POTUS does have the veto which is enormous power since it takes 2/3rd of congress to override.

I am not against Harris in anyway, but being a financial man myself, I see the catastrophe which lies straight ahead. I can yell "iceberg ahead" but am afraid most will pay no attention, and keep partying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
8. Wrong on every count
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jul 2019

Warren has had detailed proposals that include funding. None of the other candidates, including Biden and Harris, have even come close in that regard so your slur against her is not only wrong but shows you don't know what you are talking about. Warren will get the rust belt and the black vote. Harris at the top of the ticket has no chance to win the rust belt or other states like AZ that Biden and Warren could win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
10. Thank you. I thought I remembered this but didn't have memory at hand.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jul 2019

Thank you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
12. I think that it would be best if Bernie just went away but of course he won't. I do like Warren...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jul 2019

she's not my first pick, but she as others have said does seem to have her feet on the ground.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
13. The PiedPiper was a disaster for Hamlin.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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