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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:00 AM Aug 2019

Harris on Gabbard criticism: I'm obviously a top tier candidate so I expect to take hits (The Hill)

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“This is going to sound immodest, but I’m obviously a top-tier candidate, and so I did expect that I would be on the stage and take hits tonight because there are a lot of people that are trying to make the stage for the next debate,”
Harris said during interview with CNN Wednesday night after the last Democratic presidential debate in Detroit. “Especially when people are at zero or 1 percent or whatever she might be at, and so I did expect that I might take hits tonight.”

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During the debate, Gabbard accused Harris of advocating for jailing people for marijuana violations, keeping “people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor,” fighting for a cash bail system and hiding evidence that would have freed an “innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so.”

“Sen. Harris says she’s proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she’ll be a prosecutor president, but I’m deeply concerned about this record,” Gabbard said. Harris defended her record during and after the debate, saying she is proud of the work she did that went beyond giving “fancy speeches.”

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Harris also called Gabbard out for meeting with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in 2017 and declining to call him a war criminal.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455691-harris-responds-to-gabbard-criticism-im-obviously-a-top-tier-candidate-so-i

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Harris on Gabbard criticism: I'm obviously a top tier candidate so I expect to take hits (The Hill) (Original Post) Skya Rhen Aug 2019 OP
What Tulsi said was true. metroins Aug 2019 #1
You're right... Harris makes excuses for genocidal dictators... jcgoldie Aug 2019 #14
Well-stated! Excellent reply. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #23
You'll never get that poster to address those very serious issues BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #35
no, it wasn't obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #18
Yes it was metroins Aug 2019 #19
Her personal use of Marijuana has absolutely nothing SunsetDreams2 Aug 2019 #24
+ 1 The trolls are out to get Harris because she said apcalc Aug 2019 #27
She's right BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #2
Only women are expected to be modest when running for president. Chemisse Aug 2019 #9
Bad answers are bad answers BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #10
That may be, but it is pretty obvious that she is a top-tier candidate. Chemisse Aug 2019 #12
Its business. zonkers Aug 2019 #15
Harris did her job. And did it well. apcalc Aug 2019 #3
But she did not defend it. She did not counter any of what Gabbard claimed. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #5
Exactly. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #6
Today she did, thus the bogus 'immodest' issue. apcalc Aug 2019 #25
That comment simply put down Gabbard, but did not answer issues she raised. She won't be emmaverybo Aug 2019 #33
Would have sounded much better if she'd said, "Candidates with lower poll numbers go after highplainsdem Aug 2019 #4
+1 treestar Aug 2019 #20
Harris locked people up for smoking weed left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #7
You can PROVE she laughed about specifically that, then? apcalc Aug 2019 #28
It was in the debate left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #30
Gabbard said that Harris laughed about having smoked weed herself. Video of her doing that highplainsdem Aug 2019 #32
She laughed about SMOKING WEED. apcalc Aug 2019 #37
You can run, but you can't hide from your record. These charges oasis Aug 2019 #8
Joe Biden, you embrace Tulsi Gabbard at your own peril. Anon-C Aug 2019 #13
If you have a pic of Joe embracing Tulsi, let's see it. oasis Aug 2019 #16
I have no such pic, and I only have two pennies to rub together. Anon-C Aug 2019 #17
It would only take 5 minutes of research to know which oasis Aug 2019 #21
I've researched Gabbard for more than five minutes. I have formed my set of opinions of who... Anon-C Aug 2019 #22
Yes, and that person is sanders, not Biden! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #31
And Which Dictator Does Sen. Harris Stand Up For? Me. Aug 2019 #11
Harris is proposing to decriminalize marijuana federally True Dough Aug 2019 #26
Yes, and he said that months ago: highplainsdem Aug 2019 #34
I agree with Harris. Good for her taking it on the chin without the whine. silentEcho Aug 2019 #29
Anderson Cooper gave her a chance to better explain the things she's accused of, thesquanderer Aug 2019 #36
 

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. What Tulsi said was true.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:02 AM
Aug 2019

I'm not going to bash Harris though.

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jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
14. You're right... Harris makes excuses for genocidal dictators...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

...and repeatedly sided with Republicans against the Obama administration and was considered for Trump's cabinet... she spews "both side-ism" to the point that she's a fox news regular, and she's the darling of Russia amongst the entire Democratic field...

Oh wait nevermind all of that is Gabbard... Harris is the one that prosecuted people for smoking dope when it was illegal my mistake.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. Well-stated! Excellent reply.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:21 AM
Aug 2019

That puts it all in perspective.

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BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
35. You'll never get that poster to address those very serious issues
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:15 PM
Aug 2019

Like Tulsi did when she was asked by Cooper she deflected.

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metroins

(2,550 posts)
19. Yes it was
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:11 AM
Aug 2019

Her office prosecuted marijuana users and dealers all while the fact she used marijuana and laughed about it.



It's documented.
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SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
24. Her personal use of Marijuana has absolutely nothing
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:27 AM
Aug 2019

To do with laws on the books that made marijuana illegal. Let’s just encourage every Government employee to ignore the laws on the books and just selectively choose which ones they will uphold, in this case prosecute.

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apcalc

(4,462 posts)
27. + 1 The trolls are out to get Harris because she said
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:36 AM
Aug 2019

she will go after our Head Dumbass. Gabbard is helping them, imo.

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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
2. She's right
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:03 AM
Aug 2019

It does sound immodest.

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Chemisse

(30,804 posts)
9. Only women are expected to be modest when running for president.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:24 AM
Aug 2019

You may not have meant it as sexist, but as an older woman who remembers that girls were molded to be modest and keep their eyes downward, that's what jumped out at me.

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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
10. Bad answers are bad answers
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:32 AM
Aug 2019

My candidate pays a gender tax as well. That doesn’t mean overcoming sexist frames is the only reason why she might want to rethink her choice of words.

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Chemisse

(30,804 posts)
12. That may be, but it is pretty obvious that she is a top-tier candidate.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:54 AM
Aug 2019

It's not like she was elevating herself beyond what the facts supported. She was the number 2 candidate on the stage last night, and has been within the top tier of four or five candidates.

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apcalc

(4,462 posts)
3. Harris did her job. And did it well.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:09 AM
Aug 2019

And she has every right to defend her record.
Do we really care if she is ‘modest’ about it?
Sheesh... 1950’s all over again.
Screw that.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. But she did not defend it. She did not counter any of what Gabbard claimed. NT
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:18 AM
Aug 2019
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apcalc

(4,462 posts)
25. Today she did, thus the bogus 'immodest' issue.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:28 AM
Aug 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
33. That comment simply put down Gabbard, but did not answer issues she raised. She won't be
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:08 PM
Aug 2019

the only one to raise them. She did not touch on a major issue when Harris was SF DA. Harris needs to deny or explain, not just point the finger back.

I think she could do a better job and I think she will in time.

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highplainsdem

(48,921 posts)
4. Would have sounded much better if she'd said, "Candidates with lower poll numbers go after
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:15 AM
Aug 2019

candidates with higher poll numbers."

That's true of all of them...including Harris when she goes after Biden.

At the very least, she should have left "obviously" our of "I’m obviously a top-tier candidate." That one word in particular looked bad.

Especially since in most polls she's coming in 4th, at the bottom of the second tier, not the top tier, which is Biden alone. Lots of polls where he has as much support as Warren and Sanders combined, and Harris is trailing them by a few points.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. +1
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:12 AM
Aug 2019

that sounded very high school.

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. Harris locked people up for smoking weed
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:20 AM
Aug 2019

But laughed about doing it herself?

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apcalc

(4,462 posts)
28. You can PROVE she laughed about specifically that, then?
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:38 AM
Aug 2019
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left-of-center2012

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30. It was in the debate
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019

Maybe you missed it.

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highplainsdem

(48,921 posts)
32. Gabbard said that Harris laughed about having smoked weed herself. Video of her doing that
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:04 PM
Aug 2019
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apcalc

(4,462 posts)
37. She laughed about SMOKING WEED.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 03:06 PM
Aug 2019

She did not prosecute for smoking weed....

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oasis

(49,338 posts)
8. You can run, but you can't hide from your record. These charges
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:21 AM
Aug 2019

will not vanish with the elimination of a "zero or 1 percent" candidate.

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Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
13. Joe Biden, you embrace Tulsi Gabbard at your own peril.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:09 AM
Aug 2019

Now I have said my piece.

Good day!

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oasis

(49,338 posts)
16. If you have a pic of Joe embracing Tulsi, let's see it.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:55 AM
Aug 2019

Otherwise your "piece" is only as valuable as anybody else's two cents.

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Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
17. I have no such pic, and I only have two pennies to rub together.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:04 AM
Aug 2019

But that is my humble opinion. I love Joe, I lean Joe...but he puts Gabbard on his ticket, it will be a big mistake.

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oasis

(49,338 posts)
21. It would only take 5 minutes of research to know which
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:13 AM
Aug 2019

candidate Tulsi's sympathies align with.

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Anon-C

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22. I've researched Gabbard for more than five minutes. I have formed my set of opinions of who...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:18 AM
Aug 2019

...Gabbard supports and from whom she draws her support.

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Thekaspervote

(32,715 posts)
31. Yes, and that person is sanders, not Biden!
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:00 PM
Aug 2019
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
11. And Which Dictator Does Sen. Harris Stand Up For?
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:50 AM
Aug 2019

Asking for a friend.

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True Dough

(17,255 posts)
26. Harris is proposing to decriminalize marijuana federally
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:31 AM
Aug 2019

Is Biden willing to do that?

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silentEcho

(424 posts)
29. I agree with Harris. Good for her taking it on the chin without the whine.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:39 AM
Aug 2019

She had a powerful position as AG. Did her job as was expected. That is an asset.

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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
36. Anderson Cooper gave her a chance to better explain the things she's accused of,
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:37 PM
Aug 2019

without having to worry about running up against a 30 second time limit that might have prevented her from addressing them on the debate floor, i.e. if these accusations simply required more than soundbite explanations. But instead she attacked Gabbard over Syria and concluded by saying she's ready to move on.

This tells me that Gabbard's accusations are credible. The question is whether anyone will care.

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