Joe Scarborough is working hard to help the Democratic candidates.

[madaboutharry]

He just went on a royal rant telling them to stop giving Trump material for talking points and to stop quibbling about minutiae and to get to what is really important, which is attacking the fascist living in The White House and how Trump is destroying the world.

He was wrong about one thing. Not every candidate in the debates attacked Joe Biden and Obama's legacy. Michael Bennet and Amy Klobuchar did not take the bait.

[PJMcK]

1. Good

He's got quite a bit to atone for from 2015-2016.

[hlthe2b]

3. Yes he does. But, he isn't wrong. I think most viewers were appalled at the attacks on Obama

policies. Not constructive discussion of how we build on them or modify them, but just flat out attacking as a proxy to go after Biden. I certainly was appalled and while undecided, it DID make me feel more positively to Biden.

Who the hell is advising our candidates?

[yardwork]

10. Who is advising our candidates? Some pretty sketchy characters.

[emulatorloo]

52. Seems like they are Wannabe Karl Roves

[calguy]

15. I think the questions from the moderators were designed that way

to bait the candidates to attack each other. Most took the bait. A couple did not. I'll be glad when the field gets narrowed down so there won't be as many desperate one percenters trying to score points to get noticed. Thankfully it's early in the race and this debate will be forgotten in January.

[True Blue American]

18. I was appalled

And several candidates lost any approval I had of them.

After listening to Bennett on Joe His approval went way up with me.

CNN just showed a poll of Obama with Democrats. He is now at 99%, and the ACA is at 53%, 37% for Medicare for all.

[DownriverDem]

20. It's clear

that you don' t watch his show. That was then, and this is now. We Dems need all the help we can get.

[PJMcK]

49. Your assumption is incorrect and I'm baffled how you made such a projection

Scarborough, a blowhard himself, rarely shuts up long enough to let others make their points. In fact, others on his show often make much better observations that Scarborough, except Mika who, to me, is quite vapid.

Of course that was then and this is now. That's a silly observation. My point is that he blows with the wind. Back then, Trump was good for ratings. Now, anti-Trump is good for ratings. Certainly you can see that. Do you think Scarborough will be behind the Democratic candidate next Fall? Has he done that in the past?

As far as the Democrats needing all the help we can get, you're right. But it's very strange when our "allies" are people who vehemently opposed us in the past. Ana Navarro, Max Boot and Rick Wilson come to mind. They are all right-wingers who oppose Trump. Are the enemies of our enemy really our allies?

Scarborough is unreliable.

[brush]

51. Let's use their anti-trumpness as long as we can. If they keep running down trump...

let's get out of the way and not stop them. But as you advise, they all bare watching as they are still repugs.

But actually Scarborough says he has left that party. He still bares watching though.

[pangaia]

21. just my first reaction

i wish the hell he and his wife wouldf just come out and say it..apologize and then get on with helping fix the fucking mess they helped cause

[brush]

50. You're right. He gave trump plenty of free airtime in 2016. He is right on this though.

It's surprising and disappointing to me that most of our candidates, presumably the cream of the Democratic crop, let the goddamn narrators steer them into attacking each other instead of the orange blob fascist in the White House.

I hope the gang of them communicate somehow before the next debate that they should not allow the narrative of the Democratic Party debates be set by talking head pundits who want to spark division in our leadership.

God! These are supposed to be some of the smartest of our party. Williamson, Bennet and Klobuchar, and I would add Wang, are the only ones smart enough not to fall for the hype.

[hlthe2b]

2. I hope he continues to press on the need for DEMS to ignore the question asked and reframe it...

Something they ALL need to do when someone like Tapper is trying to bait them.

[JustAnotherGen]

4. Adding in Biden

I didn't see him attacking himself.

[empedocles]

5. There are major political education processes going on across the whole political spectrum

We all have a lot to . . . at least reconsider.

[Sherman A1]

6. Joe Scarborough is working hard to

Maintain to political horse race drama and to fill airtime between ads for drugs we never knew we needed.

It is nothing more than opinion piled on top of opinion and Infotainment.

[EndGOPPropaganda]

13. :) Never forget the imperative for cable news is drama, not truth.

[Sherman A1]

14. Precisely

At best it is Infotainment.

[pangaia]

22. it's a 'reality' show and we all know what THEy are...

[Sherman A1]

24. It is a reality show

Unfortunately I fear that far too many mistake Cable noise for journalism and accept it as fact.

[KPN]

25. Or even news. nt

[mtnsnake]

26. Oh come on. Scarborough has been on Trump's case forever & I am glad about that because

we need all the help we can get. I'm glad he's "working hard to help the Democratic candidates."

[Sherman A1]

38. Oh, come on.....

This is nothing but infotainment. They and the rest of the Cable Noise will go whichever way the wind blows. It has nothing to do with a particular side, point of view, following the story or journalism it is just blather.

[quickesst]

7. for those who think........

.... Joe Scarborough still has much to atone for, I have a question. Can you show us that you have done more in the last 3 years than Joe Scarborough has to help the Democratic party defeat Trump? Do you have an audience of about 1 million people you reach 5 days a week, 3 hours a day, where you spend anywhere from 75 to 90% of your airtime completely eviscerating the criminal in the White House? You may not have any atoning to do, but I would contend there is a lot of catching up to be done. I am glad Joe Scarborough is on our side, and I believe he has atoned enough to be considered a solid ally.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. He andMika did elevate Trump. They were conned and used

by Trump and they gladly gave him gobs of free air time helping him get the GOP nomination and win the general to get higher ratings.
Since then, there was a huge blowup between them.
They now hate him.
It is personal for them.
Think about the worst divorce you know of.
It’s like that.

[quickesst]

28. Joe and Mika....

.... may have played a part, but they did not get Trump elected by themselves. My question is, has three years, 3 hours a day, 5 days a week reaching approximately 1 million people a day, and condemning and resigning from the Republican Party atonement enough? Has anybody here at Democratic Underground done more to help bring down Trump and get a Democrat elected the next president? Or for some, will there ever be enough?

[olegramps]

41. Trump knows one important fact: Exposure is essential.

He says the most outrageous and ridiculous and obtains exactly what he is seeking. Coverage and name recognition. He has successfully played this game his entire life; even as a child to get undivided attention. For example he would say things that were outrageously wrong and then refuse admit he was in error. He is just narcissistic.

[quickesst]

47. I can't argue with that

[FoxNewsSucks]

29. That's true,

all the networks covered MF45 like he was royalty and already president. Joe & Mika were part of it. I'm glad they are opposing him openly now, but wouldn't be surprised if they got behind republicons again at some point. "Dead intern" Joe is a republicon who the party got to crazy for, he's not a democrat or a liberal. Mika claimed to be liberal, but has not been a reliable liberal democrat. If I remember right, she had her hair styled like Palin's during that campaign. She definitely sticks a finger in the wind to see which way it's blowing.

The divorce analogy is right on in terms of their attitude toward MF45.

[Funtatlaguy]

34. Bingo

[Chemisse]

40. True. I am grateful for what they are doing right now, but

know that at some point they will go in a direction I will despise - again.

But for now they are helping us a lot.

[olegramps]

42. My enemy's enemy is my friend. Something that is always subject to review.

[empedocles]

11. Capitol Hill also watches Joe

[True Blue American]

19. Along with Donny Deutch

Who is a die hard Democrat. Democrats need to listen to his advice. He is working on the Democratic ads.

On another note his office was all women!

[quickesst]

30. Donny Deutsch is one of the good guys.

[FoxNewsSucks]

31. I used to like when Deutch was on,

until the day Joe had to literally stop him from stating that he'd vote for MF45 over someone like Bernie Sanders. He's a silver-spooned narcissist whose first concern is his own money.

He's still better than most republicons, but that's not saying much.

[rzemanfl]

32. I'm washing socks this morning. BBL. n/t

[Funtatlaguy]

35. I like his branding ideas.

[pangaia]

23. he will NEVER atone for what they did.. all they can do is try to help fix the fucking result

and apologize!!!

[quickesst]

36. I have Suddenlink

Do you have a channel number where I can watch you eviscerate Trump 5 days a week, 3 hours a day, reaching over a million people every day? No matter his past, I would venture a guess that Joe Scarborough has done more in three years to get the message of corruption in the Trump White House out to more people than you or I have done In our lifetime. Even murderers and rapists are given a second chance for atonement, but you have no forgiveness for someone guilty of bad character judgment?

[True Blue American]

43. MSNBC

[pangaia]

45. Well well. I guess you told me what for...

[quickesst]

48. OK

Good answer.

[KPN]

27. Hey -- that was two questions.

Sorry, it’s early. Just woke up.

[quickesst]

39. for someone who just woke up....

.... you're pretty damn sharp. Hell, I wrote the post and didn't even realize it.

[True Blue American]

44. :)

[watoos]

9. I am seeing a trend occur,

I have watched more cable news lately than I ever watch, mainly because of the debates. It is way too early to see if I am right. I think the M$M wants Joe Biden to be our nominee.

[empedocles]

12. The MSM seems to see a consensus building Biden - [to beat traitortrump?]

[Skya Rhen]

16. Exclude MSNBC from that group - 95% of the punditry is anti-Biden.

[watoos]

17. Then who is msnbc pushing?

Other than Trump.

[snowybirdie]

33. I seem to remember

a Morning Joe discussion a few months ago where they all said Democrats should focus on the issues in this election, and not just bash Trump. Today it was just the opposite. They are just moving their jaws to fill airtime and sell commercials. Tired of it all already.

[ebbie15644]

37. I turned the debate off

I don't want to hate someone I might have to vote for

[question everything]

46. Still wondering how attacking Obama, and Biden, plays with African Americans