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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:03 PM Aug 2019

How Joe Biden won the second night of the Detroit debate (This Week)

Sometimes the simplest take is the truest one.

And the simple truth is that Joe Biden won the second night of the Democratic debate in Detroit for one simple reason: He came into the event with a massive lead in the polls and he did nothing on Wednesday night to change that. If Biden can repeat this performance throughout the debates between now and the start of the primaries, he will be in a very strong position to win his party's nomination.

Those who spend their lives analyzing politics don't like this because it's not very interesting. Members of the Democratic Party's progressive wing don't like it because they desperately want to break from the style and substance that marked the Obama administration and that Biden promises every couple of minutes to revive. And I don't especially like it because it smells of lazy complacency that could leave the party vulnerable in an age of angry polarization and populism.

But the polls don't lie.

Biden has been leading from the moment he joined the race. The absurdly large field can distract us from that fact. No fewer than five of the candidates on stage the first night in Detroit attempted to stake out the same moderate ground as Biden, as did Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet on the second night. But those six candidates' combined polling averages are at 3.5 percent. Biden, by contrast, currently stands at 32 percent.


It's so broad that Biden's been able to build a lead that dwarfs Donald Trump's four years ago. At this point in 2015, Trump led the Republican field with 21 percent, while second and third places were held by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker at 14 percent and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 12. The next five candidates fell between 5 and 7 percent.

Today's Democratic field is far more stratified. Combine support for second-place Bernie Sanders and third-place Elizabeth Warren into a single imagined progressive super-candidate and Biden would still be slightly ahead. And after that? California Sen. Kamala Harris is polling around 10 percent, South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg stands at 5 percent, and then we're already under 3 percent, where the remaining candidates (well over a dozen of them) are languishing in irrelevancy.


https://theweek.com/articles/856253/how-joe-biden-won-second-night-detroit-debate
If I were to vote in a presidential
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How Joe Biden won the second night of the Detroit debate (This Week) (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 OP
K&R! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #1
Biden is ahead of MF45 in key swing states! ananda Aug 2019 #2
K&R Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #3
Yippie skippy do da!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #4
Biden did what he had to do peggysue2 Aug 2019 #5
Joe's the One. oasis Aug 2019 #6
Well, I like it because the writer Cha Aug 2019 #7
This! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #8
Mahalo, Thekaspervote! Cha Aug 2019 #9
 

ananda

(28,856 posts)
2. Biden is ahead of MF45 in key swing states!
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:36 PM
Aug 2019

Good !!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
5. Biden did what he had to do
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:03 PM
Aug 2019

He withstood the barrage of slings and arrows and left the debate stage without a wounding. He also passionately defended President Barack Obama. Which in my mind should be a no-brainer, particularly when we're facing the Trumpster and his weird hang-up on all things Obama. Trump has desperately tried to dismantle anything and everything associated with the former Administration. Providing Republicans with additional ammunition and jackhammers was not a smart move. I pray that that sort of thing stops.

But to the larger question: Yes, Joe Biden won by simply standing his ground.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,120 posts)
7. Well, I like it because the writer
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:00 PM
Aug 2019

has this part wrong.. Joe Biden will build on any progress that was made(that trump hasn't deleted).. it will be going Forward.

And, it sure as hell isn't "lazy".. good god, man.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,120 posts)
9. Mahalo, Thekaspervote!
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:41 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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