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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:16 AM Aug 2019

Sanders: Democratic debate format is 'demeaning'

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is frustrated by the Democratic presidential primary debates, saying that the spectacle of 20 candidates agitating for time plays to their worst instincts and is “demeaning” to the field of contenders.

Speaking on the "The Joe Rogan Experience" podcast, Sanders said “you shouldn’t even call them a debate.”

“What they are is a reality tv show in which you have to come up with a soundbite and all that stuff,” he said. “It’s demeaning to the candidates and it’s demeaning to the American people. You can’t explain the complexity of health care in America in 45 seconds, nobody can.”

The Vermont senator acknowledged that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) “is in a difficult position” trying to accommodate the two dozen candidates running for the party’s nomination. But he said the current format encourages the candidates to stand out with outrageous soundbites in an effort to earn media attention.

“What it encourages people to do is come up with soundbites and do absurd things,” Sanders said. “If I yell and scream on this show and took my clothes off, it would get a lot of publicity, right? If you give a thoughtful answer to a complicated question, it’s not so sexy for the media.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/456511-sanders-democratic-debate-format-is-demeaning
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Sanders: Democratic debate format is 'demeaning' (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 OP
Then he should stay home in protest. murielm99 Aug 2019 #1
LOL! nt Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #21
++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Aug 2019 #26
Agreed! NurseJackie Aug 2019 #37
Why doesn't he offer an alternative format instead of just criticizing? George II Aug 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Aug 2019 #6
"If I yell and scream on this show and took my clothes off" left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #3
There goes dinner crazytown Aug 2019 #8
The qualifying criteria for the September debate is just too low bluewater Aug 2019 #4
If there are ten to twelve candidates customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #29
only problem is that they announced that the threshold will be the same for october drray23 Aug 2019 #30
If the debates customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #32
Then drop out to give the other candidates a better opportunity in the debates. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #5
I agree with Sanders on this. mtnsnake Aug 2019 #7
Actually, high school debates have a much more sophisticated setup. Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #10
High school debates don't have 20 people vying for attention at the same time. n/t cynatnite Aug 2019 #18
I agree. But please, Bernie, keep your clothes on! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #9
He's right. Mosby Aug 2019 #11
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #12
I agree. n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #13
I agree with him Green Line Aug 2019 #14
I honestly can't figure out why they are even having these so early. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #15
we need debates early and often to catch the attention of the American people questionseverything Aug 2019 #35
Bernie is right ... obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2019 #16
Not a Bernie fan but he's right about this. Maven Aug 2019 #17
Shoot. He might as well yell get off my lawn! TomCADem Aug 2019 #19
I agree with Bernie that the format is demeaning. GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #20
"What it encourages people to do is come up with soundbites and do absurd things," Sanders said. Who Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #22
Reality show politics brought to you in part by big pharma. Watch your time limit! jalan48 Aug 2019 #23
If we changed away from this it'd hurt trump far more. The current format plays into his hands. JudyM Aug 2019 #24
Lincoln-Douglas, It Ain't corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #25
True elleng Aug 2019 #27
I agree Bernie. SamKnause Aug 2019 #28
Once upon a time... TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #31
I Think You Put That In All Caps Me. Aug 2019 #33
Agree. Does encourage the worst. Also, moderators should stop the "show of hands" inanity. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #34
First there were too few candidates. Now there are too many. Too few debates, too many. betsuni Aug 2019 #36
Aw. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #38
He's right of course melman Aug 2019 #39
Yeah, but Bernie said it so.... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #40
 

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
1. Then he should stay home in protest.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:27 AM
Aug 2019
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still_one

(92,061 posts)
26. ++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:34 PM
Aug 2019
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George II

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2. Why doesn't he offer an alternative format instead of just criticizing?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:29 AM
Aug 2019
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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. "If I yell and scream on this show and took my clothes off"
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:34 AM
Aug 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
8. There goes dinner
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:50 AM
Aug 2019

there goes the audience

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
4. The qualifying criteria for the September debate is just too low
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:41 AM
Aug 2019

After the first two "cattle call debates", the DNC should have had stricter qualifications for the September debate.

2% in the polls is just too low a bar, it should be double that or even 5% since the candidates have multiple opportunities to meet the polling criteria.

You just can't have a worthwhile debate with 8-10 people on the stage at a time and we need to see ALL the leading candidates on stage facing off at the same time.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
29. If there are ten to twelve candidates
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:47 PM
Aug 2019

for the September debates, then perhaps the two-night format should be retained. Once it gets to a 5% threshold, that's going to weed that number down to about five or six. That should happen by October, certainly November, which is fast enough for me.

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drray23

(7,619 posts)
30. only problem is that they announced that the threshold will be the same for october
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:51 PM
Aug 2019

so, we might get 7-8 candidates in september and back to more than that in october. its kinda stupid. They have to raise that to 5% for october

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
32. If the debates
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:00 PM
Aug 2019

are effective, some will rise, and others will fall, even if October's formula is the same as September's. Then, we get down to a manageable number in November, when people will probably get down to paying attention to the election somewhat more.

It is an attempt to be fair, to give the lower-tier candidates a fair shot at getting their message out.

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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
5. Then drop out to give the other candidates a better opportunity in the debates.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:45 AM
Aug 2019

“If I yell and scream on this show and took my clothes off"

So the only difference from his normal status would be the removal of clothes?

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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
7. I agree with Sanders on this.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:48 AM
Aug 2019

He is right. It is a demeaning setup. The way it's set up is something that would be more in tune for a bunch of high school students, not presidential candidates.

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Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
10. Actually, high school debates have a much more sophisticated setup.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:54 AM
Aug 2019

These TV primary debate formats are garbage.

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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
18. High school debates don't have 20 people vying for attention at the same time. n/t
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:40 AM
Aug 2019
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highplainsdem

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9. I agree. But please, Bernie, keep your clothes on!
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:53 AM
Aug 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
12. Kicked and recommended.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:01 AM
Aug 2019

Thanks for the thread left of center.

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Pacifist Patriot

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15. I honestly can't figure out why they are even having these so early.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:15 AM
Aug 2019

Or why they call them "debates." It's ridiculous.

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questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
35. we need debates early and often to catch the attention of the American people
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:36 PM
Aug 2019

letting the repubs debate for 2 months before we started in 2015 was a HUGE mistake

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Maven

(10,533 posts)
17. Not a Bernie fan but he's right about this.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:32 AM
Aug 2019

Picking CNN to host the debates was a major mistake by the DNC.

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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
19. Shoot. He might as well yell get off my lawn!
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019

Bernie is a Democrat for just a few weeks and he wants to start kicking life long Dems off the stage?

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GeorgeGist

(25,311 posts)
20. I agree with Bernie that the format is demeaning.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:48 AM
Aug 2019

The candidates could easily refuse to play along.

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
22. "What it encourages people to do is come up with soundbites and do absurd things," Sanders said. Who
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 12:19 PM
Aug 2019

exactly is he referring to? I wonder...

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jalan48

(13,842 posts)
23. Reality show politics brought to you in part by big pharma. Watch your time limit!
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 12:20 PM
Aug 2019
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JudyM

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24. If we changed away from this it'd hurt trump far more. The current format plays into his hands.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:12 PM
Aug 2019

If they were up there with the ability to explain their solutions to problems for a few minutes we could see their thoughtfulness and get into some conceptual depth... unlike this reality show that’s superficial enough for trump to comment on/ridicule.

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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
25. Lincoln-Douglas, It Ain't
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:33 PM
Aug 2019

True, the DNC is in a difficult position but the current format was a mistake. The stage should have been reduced to 5 candidates during 4 nights spread over 2 weeks.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
33. I Think You Put That In All Caps
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:29 PM
Aug 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
34. Agree. Does encourage the worst. Also, moderators should stop the "show of hands" inanity.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:34 PM
Aug 2019
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betsuni

(25,380 posts)
36. First there were too few candidates. Now there are too many. Too few debates, too many.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:44 PM
Aug 2019

Too this, not enough that. When will the porridge be just right?

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melman

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39. He's right of course
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:11 PM
Aug 2019

Anyone can see the debates are totally broken.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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40. Yeah, but Bernie said it so....
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:15 PM
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