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nbsmom

(591 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:43 AM Aug 2019

No one would be talking about Tulsi Gabbard

If she hadn’t tried to kneecap
Kamala Harris.

It’s clear that the knives are out in August but I have so many questions about this:[link:https://apple.news/A3YTeM5atQLeLeqPC3WhR3w|

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No one would be talking about Tulsi Gabbard (Original Post) nbsmom Aug 2019 OP
We need to quickly cull the field SHRED Aug 2019 #1
Top three remain and everyone else should bow out and go home. democratisphere Aug 2019 #6
I agree - the real top tier (polling 15% and above) should remain - anyone under 15% should Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #9
Agreed. Time to get serious with serious candidates. democratisphere Aug 2019 #11
Agree...best to get to those who have a shot. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #15
After reading the story she certainly seems to have career aspirations. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2019 #2
I'm not sure... SergeStorms Aug 2019 #5
Tulsi Gabbard has some inate talents... too bad she has long squandered them IMHO hlthe2b Aug 2019 #3
She is up and Harris is down...seems to me it worked. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #14
I'm not watching the polls closely given they are volatile, but have you seen her up over Harris? hlthe2b Aug 2019 #16
No not over Harris but up in terms of where she was. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #18
Oh, we'd still be talking about her. Talking about how RW and Russian trolls and bots are RockRaven Aug 2019 #4
She's a RUSSIAN PUPPET AZ8theist Aug 2019 #7
I see no evidence of that...and this sort of discourse makes Harris appear to be a bully....never Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #13
good for you. AZ8theist Aug 2019 #19
I am a Biden supporter and don't support Gabbard...but I think Harris should address her time as DA Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #21
to say Gabbard is a Democrat is a stretch.... AZ8theist Aug 2019 #25
Gabbard is an elected Democrat...she is in the military...Stein is a fucking third party spoiler Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #34
and I like Joe too. A LOT. Just still undecided at this point. AZ8theist Aug 2019 #26
It is early...I am not a Gabbard fan but I don't like how Harris and her campaign are treating her. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #27
Gabbard can go on the attack but the others cannot attack Gabbard? GemDigger Aug 2019 #31
That is not what I said...attacking Gabbard but ignoring what she said ...and not addressing it is a Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #33
And few would be talking customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #8
+100,000,000,000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #10
Bingo! +1 n/t Devil Child Aug 2019 #17
Oh please. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #20
Harris is number four at best and has lost 11% favorability since the debate...if the field is Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #22
I'll admit customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #23
And recall during Harris' glory time right after the first debate treestar Aug 2019 #29
She did exactly what Harris did to Biden in the first debate and attempted to do in the second Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #12
Come on TSIAS Aug 2019 #24
Fewer would be talking about Harris treestar Aug 2019 #28
Trump tower? Clarity2 Aug 2019 #30
What's good for the goose..... SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #32
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
1. We need to quickly cull the field
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:45 AM
Aug 2019

Having so many trying to get attention by attacking isn't healthy.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Top three remain and everyone else should bow out and go home.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:30 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
9. I agree - the real top tier (polling 15% and above) should remain - anyone under 15% should
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 01:59 PM
Aug 2019

excuse themselves and support the 3 top candidates...

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
11. Agreed. Time to get serious with serious candidates.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:02 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
15. Agree...best to get to those who have a shot.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:26 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NoMoreRepugs

(9,413 posts)
2. After reading the story she certainly seems to have career aspirations.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:46 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
5. I'm not sure...
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:08 PM
Aug 2019

those political aspirations are within the democratic party though. She has aspirations for something, but I doubt those aspirations serve anyone beyond Gabbard herself.

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hlthe2b

(102,226 posts)
3. Tulsi Gabbard has some inate talents... too bad she has long squandered them IMHO
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:51 AM
Aug 2019

with very poor judgement.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
14. She is up and Harris is down...seems to me it worked.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:25 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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hlthe2b

(102,226 posts)
16. I'm not watching the polls closely given they are volatile, but have you seen her up over Harris?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:35 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
18. No not over Harris but up in terms of where she was.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:40 PM
Aug 2019

Harris is down 11 points in favorability.

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RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
4. Oh, we'd still be talking about her. Talking about how RW and Russian trolls and bots are
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

particularly active promoting her on social media and how Russian state-controlled media post as many articles about her as the two highest polling Dems (Biden and Warren) COMBINED despite how low she is polling and their disinterest in Dems with similar poll numbers, and those articles are particularly complimentary (a sharp contrast to ALL of the articles they post about other Dems).

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AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
7. She's a RUSSIAN PUPPET
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:32 PM
Aug 2019

DINO.

This year's Jill Stein. Pushed by Russian bots to sow discord in the DemoCRATIC party.

The sooner she's out of the race, the better EVERYONE will be.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
13. I see no evidence of that...and this sort of discourse makes Harris appear to be a bully....never
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:24 PM
Aug 2019

punch down.

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AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
19. good for you.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:10 AM
Aug 2019

"I see no evidence in that"...
Brilliant. Keep cheering for her.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
21. I am a Biden supporter and don't support Gabbard...but I think Harris should address her time as DA
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 PM
Aug 2019

and AG...she should stop the attacks on Gabbard...you really think a Russian plant goes on Military training missions? Gabbard is a Democrat...and Harris and others need to stop attacking her...with questionable stuff.

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AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
25. to say Gabbard is a Democrat is a stretch....
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:31 AM
Aug 2019

A DINO maybe. The Jill Stein of 2020. Maybe that's why the Russian bots are flooding to her side.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
34. Gabbard is an elected Democrat...she is in the military...Stein is a fucking third party spoiler
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:18 PM
Aug 2019

and is not a Democrat...I will take any Democrat over Stein any day. The Russian thing is a bit silly. She is in the military...I think that accusing a Democrat of being with the Russians... is wrong.

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AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
26. and I like Joe too. A LOT. Just still undecided at this point.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:31 AM
Aug 2019

Anyone but Gabbard.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
27. It is early...I am not a Gabbard fan but I don't like how Harris and her campaign are treating her.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:58 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
31. Gabbard can go on the attack but the others cannot attack Gabbard?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:59 AM
Aug 2019

Really?

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
33. That is not what I said...attacking Gabbard but ignoring what she said ...and not addressing it is a
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:15 PM
Aug 2019

big mistake on Harris's part...And some of the Gabbard attacks have bordered on the ridiculous...and she is a Democrat. Harris had no issue attacking Biden and it was demanded he defend something that happened 50 years ago...now I don't see why Harris won't defend her more recent record...what makes her think she can demand other candidates defend their records but she doesn't have to...and there is stuff that should be explained.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. And few would be talking
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 01:49 PM
Aug 2019

about Sen. Harris had she not gone after Joe Biden on busing.

These debates are about finding someone who can not only dish it out, but can also take it.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
20. Oh please.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:15 AM
Aug 2019

That comparison is not even in the same ballpark. Harris started strong and has remained strong.

Gabbard hasn’t been a blip on the presidential map and never will be.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
22. Harris is number four at best and has lost 11% favorability since the debate...if the field is
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

culled,she will be out. The top three are Biden, Sanders and Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
23. I'll admit
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 02:51 PM
Aug 2019

that Gabbard is not going to be in the final four, but her tactics are the same as those used by Sen. Harris to achieve her peak so far. I'm sure she'll get further opportunities to label Joe Biden as racist and sexist.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
29. And recall during Harris' glory time right after the first debate
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:02 AM
Aug 2019

the big argument was how Biden handled it - that should be the focus.

Harris has deflected and then made high school girl type comments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
12. She did exactly what Harris did to Biden in the first debate and attempted to do in the second
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:23 PM
Aug 2019

debate. The difference is Biden addressed the accusations...Harris has attacked Gabbard but not defended her record...down 11 points according to polls. She needs to address this sooner rather than later. Harris's attacks on Gabbard have been so brutal that I feel sympathy towards her, and I am not a Gabbard fan by any means.

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TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
24. Come on
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:34 AM
Aug 2019

Despite polling at 1% John Delaney was treated like royalty by the CNN debate moderators.

If you want a debate with no adversarial inquiries from opposing candidates, just have candidate forums. The fact that this exchange counted as "debate" points to the folly of a ten person event.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. Fewer would be talking about Harris
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:59 AM
Aug 2019

had she not made her play regarding busing and Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
30. Trump tower?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:13 AM
Aug 2019

I didnt know this:

Ex-Trump adviser Steve Bannon, who had helped arrange a Trump Tower meeting between Gabbard and the president-elect late in 2016, gave her a shoutout.


Not suspicious...nothing to see here.
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
32. What's good for the goose.....
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 11:04 AM
Aug 2019

I don't mind when my candidate goes forward with extremely shady attacks but if yours does it to mine.... Russian!!!! Russian!!!! Russian!!!!!

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