So-which camp will attack Beto the most-(other than The Lump)?

[redstateblues]

Who has the most to lose? I’ve been seeing a lot of thinly veiled attacks today

[RandySF]

1. It'll be Joe's turn when he gets in.

[Maru Kitteh]

2. They're not that thinly veiled - and we all know where they are coming from.

Some have in fact been grossly misleading lies and smears, straight from the top echelons of the revolution™.

[highplainsdem]

3. +1,000,000

[Blue_true]

6. I have noticed that, chain threads ripping Beto.

But someone put Beto's congressional record up, guess who didn't measure up?

[Maru Kitteh]

13. Gosh, I wonder. Could it be the person who didn't want to hurt Putin with sanctions?

Maybe it's the person whose Devine campaign manager met with Putin operative Kilimnick, and Paul Manafort.

:large



Things that make you go hmmmm.

[ORiGINAL Double D]

46. None who are part of Bernie 2020.

Move on....

[NurseJackie]

31. They're nervous and scared. That's why they smear him.

[Cha]

4. Right.. not "thinly veiled" but futile!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=23198

[Maru Kitteh]

14. Oooh! Mahalo for the graphic Cha!

I'm keeping that one on the clipboard.

[Cha]

16. We have lapucelle to Thank!

I'm just passing it on as I'm sure you will be too, Maru.

Shine the Light!

[NurseJackie]

33. So the boast that "BS-Votes-With-Democrats-99%" IS A MYTH... I figured as much.

(The lie has been repeated so often, I guess I'll need to repeat the truth just as often, eh?)

[George II]

43. Not even close. It's more like low 80s.

.

[RelativelyJones]

26. +1 Thanks for this.

[NurseJackie]

29. So the boast that "BS-Votes-With-Democrats-99%" IS A MYTH... I figured as much.

I'm very happy to see how busy BO has been. Sponsoring TWICE and many bills as BS... cosponsoring over FOUR TIMES as many bills as BS.

But look at how often BS votes AGAINST the Democratic party. So the boast that "BS-Votes-With-Democrats-99%" IS A MYTH... I figured as much. It' easy to see that the number is NOT 99% and closer to 81%. Why would people lie about things that can be disproved?

I have to say that I'm not at all surprised about the number of times that BS has missed a vote.

Anyway, all I'm saying here is that I'm glad to have the ACTUAL numbers for comparison purposes. I think it's good when people can make decisions based on hard facts rather than exaggerated campaign boasts and political puffery.

Everyone deserves to know the truth.

[JI7]

5. Putin

[Amimnoch]

7. heh, more than a few of us do believe.

[Trenzalore]

8. Sanders Camp

They compete in the young people space.

I've actually seen it start on social media.

[nolabear]

10. Yep. It's in full swing.

[customerserviceguy]

9. Pretty much everybody

unless the numbers come out on Beto's fundraising today, and he cannot make his dollar amount raised approach what he got when he was running against Cruz. Beto is about half of what Jay Inslee is here, he may well find that the appeal of a person who could not win a Senate race is rather limited.

[WeekiWater]

11. I thought Beto entering would be good for Sanders and bad for Biden.

Yet the Sanders contingent seem to be unhinged with their attacks and most Biden folks seem to be excited about Beto. I’m a bit confused by it.

[Maru Kitteh]

15. Biden supporters are solid Democrats. Beto is a solid Democrat.

So there ya go.

[WeekiWater]

19. That's just what I was thinking.

What you just said is why I thought Biden and Beto would be splitting votes. They have more in common.

[Renew Deal]

18. Beto is a threat to BS

Beto is younger, cooler, and electable. Biden supporters think that Beto will harm Bernie. I guess Bernie supporters agree.

[forklift]

12. Perennial Democrats respect each other

and don't cut each other down, knowing that no matter who wins, that person has to beat the Trumpenführer. Furthermore, they have to work with that person once he/she becomes POTUS.


Seasonal Democrats don't have such qualms. If it is not them, they don't care who wins the GE.

[Cha]

22. +Millions!

[ehrnst]

24. !!!!!

[George II]

38. Bazinga!

[Renew Deal]

17. BS

Beto is a threat to his entire campaign. Beto is better with young people and can raise money.

So Sanders attacks Beto. Harris, Warren, and Bernie all duke it out for the same people. Someone other than those three wins.

[scheming daemons]

20. Beto sucks all the millenials away from Bernie.... and the remaining Bernie fans are scared

They know that Beto will get the crowds.... and the young people.

They had no option other than Bernie last time. That's not true this time.

[NurseJackie]

34. He scares the poop out of them. That's why he's being smeared.

And I use the word "smeared" intentionally... and literally. People aren't just comparing and contrasting differences... he's being SMEARED with LIES!

That really says a lot about the people telling the lies and it doesn't reflect very well on their preferred candidate either.

It's clear to me that the days of BS's campaign are numbered... it'll be all but over for him by Super Tuesday.

[George II]

39. O'Rourke is being attacked as voting "against" bills that never even came up for a vote!! That is...

...how scared of his candidacy some are.

[NurseJackie]

40. It's one thing to criticize... But they're LYING!

Disgusting!

[Cha]

21. David Sirota's Attempt To Smear Beto O'Rourke Goes Horribly Wrong

In a series of tweets, Sirota implied that O'Rourke was the second-biggest recipient of oil and gas industry donations during the 2018 election cycle:

However, Sirota's claims simply don't add up when subjected to the most basic levels of scrutiny. During his campaign, O'Rourke pledged not to take any money from PACs, and for the most part, he stayed true to his word, eschewing big corporate donors like the ones he was accused of accepting. O'Rourke's commitment to taking small donations from his supporters made him the best-funded Senate candidate in 2018. According to independent, Texas-based journalist Leah McElrath, the numbers Sirota cites come from individual donors - not corporations.

More..
https://thedailybanter.com/2018/12/04/david-sirota-unfairly-smears-beto/

It started last year. BS surrogate.

[emulatorloo]

35. +1

[George II]

41. That stuff really REALLY bothers me! He either doesn't understand campaign finance reporting or....

....he's intentionally misrepresenting the reporting.

Putting it simply, a gas station attendant who contributed to O'Rourke's campaign is categorized as the "oil/gas industry"!!

[betsuni]

23. He's not doing the Medicare-for-all-$15-minimum-wage-Green-New-Deal-ICE slogans word for word.

That means he's a Republican, of course. His comment about Ted Cruz calling him a socialist and outside Texas people questioning if he's really a Democrat, that he doesn't know where he is on the spectrum and just wants to get better things for the country enrages them. Suddenly labels and detailed policies matter.

So on one side he's a socialist and on the other he's a milquetoast centrist beholden to Big Oil who, like Obama, is a charismatic empty suit. The usual.

[R B Garr]

37. Perfect! And I bet we'll all be saying Texas isn't Vermont

quite often.

[Amimnoch]

25. Thinly veiled?? Looked more like a nudist retreat today. -nt

[HopeAgain]

27. Question:

If I say Beto hasn't demonstrated a progressive enough record to earn my vote, is that an "attack"?

Because I need to know where the sacred cows are...

[emulatorloo]

36. DU encourages constructive criticism: facts,policy, records etc That's not an attack

Lies, baseless smears and innuendo, name calling, are attacks/bashing

Hope this helps.

Spelled out completely here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[aikoaiko]

28. There is always a bump in fair and not-fair criticism when someone announces.

Beto is no different.

[BlueWI]

30. I'm wondering about legislative priorities for Beto.

What issues has he championed in the past, and what is the case for looking to him for administrative leadership, with so many experienced Democratic candidates?

I support Inslee #1 and Warren #2. Beto is younger that these two, but what indication do we have that he'll excel at governing?

[MineralMan]

32. As always, some people who ask questions about a candidate

will be accused of attacking that candidate. We should be asking hard questions about all of our presidential primary candidates.

On another note, the hurt dog is the one that yelps.

[jalan48]

42. Don't worry. There will be more info surfacing about O'Rourke as the primary progresses.

[McCamy Taylor]

44. Putin.Putin and Putin. All attacks are Putin unless proved otherwise.

This is how we should view all attacks on Dems.

The preparation of attacks on one Democrat by another -- and 'endorsements' of one Democrat by another, which has to be repudiated, are examples of what can be done.

Pat Buchanan outlines CREEP strategy 1972

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/stories/buchananmemo.htm?noredirect=on

Any "attack" that seems to come from a member of another candidates support group is from Putin and the GOP. Another Democratic candidate striving to win the nomination like the proverbial "bull moose in heat" (Hunter S. Thompson "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972&quot will cleverly disguise any attack so that it seems to come from someone else. At least for now. As we get closer to the convention, things will heat up, but this is the "I am so positive! Love me!" phase of the Democratic primary.

[Gothmog]

45. The gop is scared of Beto

Link to tweet

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