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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:14 AM Aug 2019

VP Bidens never ending gaffes and why do his supporters keep defending him!!!

or something to that effect.. you will see it every day in news.. the talking head circles.. the ops on DU.. the final analysis if you look at all of them.. is that he is done.. a cooked goose.. am I missing any??


Okay, here is the deal.. I may not be speaking for all of VP Biden's people.. but I know I am speaking for a lot of them.. We know he makes gaffes.. we knew it before we took up his cause.. it is part and parcel of who he is.. he gaffes.. thank God he recognizes it most times and corrects.. but gaffes never ending..


The difference between someone like Donald Trump as an example..(the elephant in the room )and Joe Biden.. is that Trump talks, he makes gaffes too, but never apologizes and just keeps bulldozing as do some of our candidates sometimes. they talk the talk, but do not walk the walk

VP Biden will be forever gaffe prone.. but he gets the job done.. he walks the walk.. and that is why we back him.. we know he will get it done.. and he does not over promise or under promise.. he knows what is possible and pushes the envelope to get the possible and the next step..

Lily Ledbetter with President Obama.. the Violence Against Women Act.. the Assault Weapons Ban (yes the Bushes let it expire but he can get it back)..pushing everyone including my beloved President Obama to back gay marriage..etc etc etc

I will take a gaffe prone President Biden any day over someone who can tell a wonderful story but not get anything done..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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VP Bidens never ending gaffes and why do his supporters keep defending him!!! (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2019 OP
Amen, most Democrats know Joes heart is good. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #1
True that.. we do know his heart Peacetrain Aug 2019 #4
Thank you for that analysis. Butterflylady Aug 2019 #2
Voting our Trump is my most important issue right now.. Peacetrain Aug 2019 #5
With you on this Lulu KC Aug 2019 #3
For me.. gaffes are gaffes.. no matter who makes them Peacetrain Aug 2019 #6
:-) n/t Lulu KC Aug 2019 #7
Biden tells it like it is...and that often allows people who don't like him to twist his words...I Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #8
Haters going to hate..!! Peacetrain Aug 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author jcgoldie Aug 2019 #10
He's authentic. He always has been and always will be. He doesn't Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #11
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #12
Well, there are gaffes, and glitches. crazytown Aug 2019 #13
Aphasia, huh? Another Fristian-style internet diagnosis? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #15
No crazytown Aug 2019 #16
Children like to pretend the Christmas wrapping indicates the contents of a box. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #14
I used to stutter Gothmog Aug 2019 #17
Aloha, Peacetrain.. well said.. yes apparently it's Cha Aug 2019 #18
OMG.. who can forget the "blink" faux paus.. Peacetrain Aug 2019 #19
LOL! Cha Aug 2019 #20
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
1. Amen, most Democrats know Joes heart is good.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019

The media loves the gaffes.
They can say, oh look, we don’t just show Trumps mistakes, we show Democrats too.
They WRONGLY equate a mixup of words or misstatement by Joe with some horrible thing that Trump says. A total false equivalency.

I know Joes heart.
He’s not my first choice but I will enthusiastically work for and defend him if he’s our nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
4. True that.. we do know his heart
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:58 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Butterflylady

(3,541 posts)
2. Thank you for that analysis.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:42 AM
Aug 2019

And yes you are correct that he is gaffe prone but he is also real. He doesn't hide who he is and we accept that because we know he can get the job done. Joe can bring those swing states that we need to win back to blue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
5. Voting our Trump is my most important issue right now..
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:59 AM
Aug 2019

If he stays in office we will never get anything done..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
3. With you on this
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:51 AM
Aug 2019

I raised gasps at a happy hour with long-time fellow Democratic friends the other night by saying that we should stop focusing on everyone's gaffes--including Trump's--and go deeper. They really looked horrified. So-called POTUS has so much more going on than his gaffes. And do we not all do stupid things like mean Dayton but say Detroit? We're not running for president, so we all laugh and every once in a while the gaffe requires a giggle and "oops, Freudian slip," but no one makes a huge deal out of it because it is trivial.

I wish we had a perfect candidate, just like I wish I was perfect. Perfectionism kills.

However, this one was a really interesting on on Joe's part, because it brought to the surface a subconscious thought that I am guessing many citizens have in our intrinsic cultural racism. When the words "poor people" come up, what do you instantly see with your mind's eye? At this point in my life, I get a split screen. One has Black people in a decrepit urban setting with a sense of violence pending in the background--I see liquor stores, lots of children, a community of people surviving together. The violence is from handguns. The other side has White people in decrepit trailer park settings for some reason, rural or on the edge of rural, with meth labs in the background, lots of children, another community of people surviving on limited means. There is also a sense of pending violence, but it becomes domestic in my own mind's eye, with a lot of child abuse. Both pictures have lots more pain in them than a picture that floats to the surface if I hear "middle-class." But that's just me--we all have images (or words, or feelings) that are automatic responses.

So what's my point? That when Joe (or anyone) makes a gaffe, there's his personal subconscious reality floating to the surface.

I need more coffee in the morning before I read the news.

TGIF, everyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
6. For me.. gaffes are gaffes.. no matter who makes them
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:03 AM
Aug 2019

I do them myself.. can be looking at the green grass and say the word yellow.. I do it myself.. its not that I think grass is yellow.. its just my brain did a skip..because I was looking at the dandelions in the grass and the word yellow came out

What counts for me, is what is accomplished.. not a brain hiccup.. or the ability to see you have had a brain fart and go back and correct it.. some just do not have that ability or flexibility to understand their own failings.. we all do it.. and I knew VPBiden was prone to it long before I took up his cause..

coffee is up

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
8. Biden tells it like it is...and that often allows people who don't like him to twist his words...I
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:15 AM
Aug 2019

find it refreshing. I like someone who tells it as he sees it...and the Biden haters will hate him no matter what he does...I don't even watch MSNBC ...so sick of it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
9. Haters going to hate..!!
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:27 AM
Aug 2019

true that..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
11. He's authentic. He always has been and always will be. He doesn't
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:33 AM
Aug 2019

have a phony bone in his body. Also, I don't expect perfection from anybody.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
13. Well, there are gaffes, and glitches.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:38 AM
Aug 2019

Saying Obama was 'articulate, bright, clean and a nice-looking guy' was a gaffe. The glitches in his speech - when he has a word in his head, and says something else, is another thing, known as aphasia.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Aphasia, huh? Another Fristian-style internet diagnosis?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:33 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
16. No
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:36 AM
Aug 2019

Direct experience, and I am not going to expand that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. Children like to pretend the Christmas wrapping indicates the contents of a box.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:32 AM
Aug 2019

And, with all the self-righteous they can muster, will petulantly lecture anyone who will listen that a book's cover is an accurate indication of a book.

But that really only speaks to the books they themselves read... and it's a given, coloring books often do advertise themselves as such on the cover. So I don't really blame them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,064 posts)
17. I used to stutter
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:04 PM
Aug 2019

I have no issues with Biden


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,074 posts)
18. Aloha, Peacetrain.. well said.. yes apparently it's
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
19. OMG.. who can forget the "blink" faux paus..
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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