Has Beto released his tax returns?

[madville]

Can't find anything on Google.

[dhill926]

1. Has Trump...

Jesus Christ...

[madville]

6. Has Bernie?

Half the people in here ask about Bernie so is Beto off limits? Him and his wife have a lot of real estate holdings and trust fund wealth gifted from their parents, their taxes would be interesting to see.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. Apparently, no one's tax returns matter but Bemie's. Where are they?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[redstateblues]

13. He's been promising them for several years. What is the hold up?

[Mr Tibbs]

40. The 2016 primaries ended

And with it, the obligation to release them for that election.

Hope that clears this up for ya.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. Thanks Mr. Tibbs... the voice of reason!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Dennis Donovan]

66. Sigh, this has been posted on DU numerous times:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511749845

Oh, and: https://www.democraticunderground.com/128725115

[emulatorloo]

30. Elizabeth Warren has released her tax returns. Other candidates have too.

From Ernst’s post below:

Gillibrand https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/tax-returns
Booker https://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/cory-booker-tax-returns-096388
Warren https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/us-sen-warren-posts-10-years-of-her-tax-returns-online.html
Biden https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/04/15/president-obama-and-vice-president-bidens-2015-tax-returns
Harris https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-here-s-another-glimpse-of-kamala-harris-1520551387-html
Inslee https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/well-off-inslee-better-off-challenger-bryant-release-tax-returns/
Hickenlooper https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2010/04/25/hickenlooper-releases-23-years-of-tax-returns/

Everyone of our candidates needs to be financially transparent. Why should Senator Sanders be an exception?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

61. So everyone else lacks transparency?! That's some logic!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Hortensis]

33. Bernie and Trump are the only ones REFUSING to release.

A large majority of our candidates have brand new presidential campaigns. Any who haven't already released their returns get more time to produce them.

NOW, back to Bernie. I've cared far less about whatever hypocrisy or scandal his returns might reveal than that he's lied repeatedly to us for years now and is STILL hiding his background and refusing to disclose what we have a right to know about any presidential candidate. This is only one, comparatively minor way (so far as we know) that his character has badly failed my standards.

[Mr Tibbs]

41. Please provide a link to Sanders "refusing to release" his tax returns

[Hortensis]

51. Please provide a link proving this is new news.

To anyone but you.

[Mr Tibbs]

52. So you don't have any proof

And you said it for shock value. I get it.

[Hortensis]

57. :) This is not a winning topic to pursue. Headline: "EL CHEAPO!"

This was from a 1996 article in a Vermont journal reporting that Sanders donated $1,369 to charity out of a total income of $125,842.

That's of course just an interesting little detail from the 2016 factcheck.org piece that addresses your question. More to today's point, in 1996 Sanders only disclosed his 1040, instead of his entire return, which is what voters feel we have a right to see. He did the same in 2014, 18 years later, but not even that since then.

Oh, from that 2014 1040: "In 2014, Sanders earned $205,617, claimed $56,377 in itemized deductions, and paid $27,653 in taxes. That’s an effective tax rate of 13.4 percent."

Here you go: You ask, you get. There are many articles since, including a bunch of brand new ones on this topic, but it might be best not to ask for any.

Sanders Evades Tax Question

"You know, we are not — you know, to be very honest with you, you know who does our tax returns? My wife does our tax returns. We have been a little bit busy lately."

... Has Sanders released his “full returns” in the past? No. ...

Sanders isn’t the only candidate to make public only his 1040 form (Me: 2 of them in over 20 years). The Tax Analysts website shows only 1040 forms for Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, and no tax information for Donald Trump.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/sanders-evades-tax-question/

Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Donald Trump, and Bernie Sanders.

[Mr Tibbs]

62. 2016?

You are living in the past.

He has pledged to release ten years worth.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton didn't release any until the second year of his first term.

[ehrnst]

63. Had Bill Clinton promised to release them by the start of the 1992 Convention?

What About 'Whataboutism'?

If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything?

Whataboutism adds a twist to tu quoque by directing its energies into establishing an equivalence between two or more disparate actions, thereby defaming the accuser with the insinuation that their priorities are backwards.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whataboutism-origin-meaning

[Mr Tibbs]

64. HE wasn't going to release them at all

He only did so under pressure a year after taking office

Not part of demands he keep campaigning for years after an election ends

[ehrnst]

65. .....

What About 'Whataboutism'?

If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything?

Whataboutism adds a twist to tu quoque by directing its energies into establishing an equivalence between two or more disparate actions, thereby defaming the accuser with the insinuation that their priorities are backwards.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whataboutism-origin-meaning

[Power 2 the People]

46. +1000

A lot of things don't matter unless it's Bernie.

[question everything]

56. I think that you are supporting the wrong candidate

who is Bemie?

[chillfactor]

2. Have ALL of the candidates released their tax returns?

Why single out Beto?

[madville]

3. Why do so many single out Bernie?

Not a Bernie fan, but it's a legitimate question.

[MrsCoffee]

8. Maybe because Bernie promised to release them and never did.

[TwilightZone]

9. He's singled out because he promised to release them a few years ago.

If we're looking at this cycle only, he's been in the race for a month. Beto just announced. Sanders still hasn't released his. Beto says he'll release them "soon".

Link to tweet

All candidates should release them, but I don't see that these two particular situations are that similar.

[Mr Tibbs]

42. HE said he would release them, but then lost the primary

So he didn't

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-says-he-plans-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-11551146324

[TwilightZone]

44. Irrelevant.

He said he would release them; he had months to do so; he did not. The end of the primaries was just the last of a series of excuses he made during the previous cycle.

This time, he's had a month to release them and keeps making excuses. He's still stalling, for whatever reason.

[Mr Tibbs]

48. So the race ending is irrelevant, and the loser should keep campaigning for eternity....

because supporters of the winner demand it?

Or something to that effect? Politics has never worked that way.

Once the election is over, the campaigning ends. Even for Bernie Sanders. Even is supporters of his winning opponent are butthurt.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Ummmm... cuz he's Bernie?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[NurseJackie]

27. ...

[emulatorloo]

34. ...

From Ernst’s post below:

Gillibrand https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/tax-returns
Booker https://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/cory-booker-tax-returns-096388
Warren https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/us-sen-warren-posts-10-years-of-her-tax-returns-online.html
Biden https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/04/15/president-obama-and-vice-president-bidens-2015-tax-returns
Harris https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-here-s-another-glimpse-of-kamala-harris-1520551387-html
Inslee https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/well-off-inslee-better-off-challenger-bryant-release-tax-returns/
Hickenlooper https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2010/04/25/hickenlooper-releases-23-years-of-tax-returns/

[Mr Tibbs]

49. I find it ironic that Harris' supporters demand tax returns from everyone but

....Kamala.

[JI7]

19. because he ran before and he didn't release it then

[emulatorloo]

31. Many of our candidates have released their tax returns. Bernie's "singled out" because he hasn't

Despite promising to do so for several years.

Financial transparency is important if you are running for President.

From Ernst’s post below:

Gillibrand https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/tax-returns
Booker https://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/cory-booker-tax-returns-096388
Warren https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/us-sen-warren-posts-10-years-of-her-tax-returns-online.html
Biden https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/04/15/president-obama-and-vice-president-bidens-2015-tax-returns
Harris https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-here-s-another-glimpse-of-kamala-harris-1520551387-html
Inslee https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/well-off-inslee-better-off-challenger-bryant-release-tax-returns/
Hickenlooper https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2010/04/25/hickenlooper-releases-23-years-of-tax-returns/

[Mr Tibbs]

50. He promised "For years"?

He is held to a bizarre standard that no other candidate is held to.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-says-he-plans-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-11551146324

[emulatorloo]

59. He promised during the 2016 primary. He's held to the same standard our other candidates are held

to.

You wrote: “ He promised "For years"?”

As I am sure you are aware, 2016 was several years ago. The other primary candidate released 8 years of tax returns in 2015. And then released more in 2016.

We do have “bizarre” standards here at DU: we like to deal in facts.

Claiming Senator Sanders is held to a “bizarre” standard when it comes to the financial transparency of our candidates is not factual.

It may be a “meme” or a “talking point” but it isn’t a fact.

As you’ve probably seen by now, several posts in this thread here give a list (with links) of the 2020 candidates who have released their tax returns so far.

[DesertRat]

4. He said he'll "announce it soon".

Link to tweet

[Cha]

7. Mahalo, DestertRat.. I just posted below that I bet

he'd have no problem with it.

Link to tweet

You have some of the best Tweets!

[Cha]

5. If he hasn't yet I bet Beto would

have no problem with it.

It's the law in New Jersey.. Washington, too.. if the Gov has signed it yet.

[oasis]

11. Bernie said "soon", Beto said "soon". I bet Beto's is sooner.

Let me put it this way: "The sooner the Beto."

[Cha]

15. "The sooner the Beto"..

I like it.. nice ring. lol

BS' is already not "soon".

I Beto you're right!

[oasis]

16. It'll be a memorable primary battle for sure.

Stock up on your popcorn, Cha.

[Cha]

17. Yes, we have so many True Blue Dems

from all over the country running.. how could it Not be!?



Aloha, oasis!

[JI7]

20. yes, and if he doesn't release it then he deserves to be attacked for it also

[Mr Tibbs]

43. He said he will be releasing ten years worth for 2020

I note many of those making demands of Sanders back candidates that haven't released any. What's up with that?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-says-he-plans-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-11551146324

[redstateblues]

14. I think Bernie figured everybody would forget

[trueblue2007]

18. i figure bernie won''t release his.

[Mr Tibbs]

45. He says he will release ten years worth

How many years has Kamala released for 2020?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-says-he-plans-to-release-10-years-of-tax-returns-11551146324

[Mr Tibbs]

55. I think the 2016 primary ended, so he stopped campaigning

Just a stab in the dark....

[Amimnoch]

21. Fair question. No he hasn't. Yes, he does need to.

Especially since, like BS, a big part of his stump is that he doesn’t accept PAC/Corporation donations. Everyone who runs for POTUS, and every Senator should be required to have that kind of transparency on where their bread is buttered from imo.

However, unlike BS, he’s only been into this race for 1 day (not breaking promises for years on it). I’ve made a kick-off, or founders, donation to his campaign, but I’ve also notified his campaign that this is the only donation I’m willing to make until he releases his returns.

[Mr Tibbs]

22. Almost none of them have

[ehrnst]

23. You mean 2020 Democratic POTUS candidates? I guess if you think "7" is the same as "almost none"

Some have been doing so for years - especially the ones running on financial transparency.

Gillibrand https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/tax-returns
Booker https://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/cory-booker-tax-returns-096388
Warren https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/us-sen-warren-posts-10-years-of-her-tax-returns-online.html
Biden https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/04/15/president-obama-and-vice-president-bidens-2015-tax-returns
Harris https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-here-s-another-glimpse-of-kamala-harris-1520551387-html
Inslee https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/well-off-inslee-better-off-challenger-bryant-release-tax-returns/
Hickenlooper https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2010/04/25/hickenlooper-releases-23-years-of-tax-returns/

What's more accurate is that almost none of the 2020 Democratic candidates have promised to release returns, then didn't, and said that they did, when they actually hadn't.

I hope that clarifies things for you.

[WeekiWater]

24. Almost none is a bit of a stretch. Very few have released them to the public.

Your link for Harris doesn't work. It is my understanding that you can see one year of her returns, by appointment, in her California office. I also don't think Booker has made his public. I think Biden has released just under twenty years worth, up to 2015. Sanders has release his limited 1040 forms for one year. I can't find Hickenloopers online. I don't see where Inslee has posted his online.

I think we have sixteen currently announced candidates.

Here is how it's done.

Gillibrand

Elizabeth Warren

Bidens can be found at this link

[ehrnst]

35. Here is the link I have.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article108767562.html

In case that still doesn't work for you, here is the relevant text:

Harris, the state attorney general, and Emhoff, a partner at Venable, where he oversees the firm’s offices in Los Angeles and San Francisco, paid $371,954 in federal income taxes and $76,369 in state income taxes, after receiving a $35,952 credit for taxes paid to other states where the law firm is active.

She and Emhoff contributed $32,947 to charity, including $10,000 to UNICEF, the global humanitarian agency that works on behalf of children; $1,250 to University of Southern California, where Emhoff attended law school; $1,000 to the national nonprofit College Track and $100 to CASA of Los Angeles.

Their effective tax rate was 32 percent on the federal return and close to 40 percent combined.

The federal burden includes $43,843 in self-employment taxes, payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security. Subtracting that figure, and using the couple’s adjusted gross income of $1.17 million, their effective tax rate was 28 percent federally, and 35 percent combined.

Harris’ return, the second joint filing since she and Emhoff wed August 2014 in Santa Barbara, show they predominantly derived their income from wages, which are taxed at higher rates than investments. Harris currently makes $158,775 annually, a salary established by an independent state panel.

It also shows the pair paid $1,239 for the mental health services tax, the 1 percent Proposition 63 levy on personal income over $1 million.

The poster that I was replying to was making a false equivalency concerning other 2020 Democratic POTUS candidates. I responded with the information that rendered their claim that "almost none" of the others had released theirs, which was implying that Senator Sanders's history concerning financial transparency is somehow the same as the rest of - or whatever the inverse is of "almost none" of is- the entire Democratic 2020 field.

It is not, as my links show.

As I wrote in my reply:

Some have been doing so for years - especially the ones running on financial transparency.

No, not all of them have released 2017's or have those available now on their campaign website (like Gillibrand), and I was using previous runs for office, or during office where these candidates had released full returns, as examples of the transparency of those other Democratic candidates concerning their personal financials.

The seven Democratic Candidates that I mentioned have cleared a higher bar for personal financial transparency with their tax returns (even just the information released in the newpaper article that I linked to) than releasing one summary of one year, and none have claimed that they have released their tax returns when they have not.

This is why

[WeekiWater]

37. Thanks for the follow up.

I’m one of the few here who thinks requiring the release of ten years is a bad idea. That doesn’t mean I don’t think it should be recognized or discussed. Sanders response to release his over the years is a big problem for me. Yet I don’t have an issue with Harris lack of transparency, compared to some others. I think the fact that we are allowed to file jointly can make things problematic.

[ehrnst]

39. I would be very troubled if it turns out that any Democratic candidate filed separately from their

spouse and refuses to release the spouses' returns in addition to their own.

That would be a huge red flag, as much or more so than a candidate not releasing any at all. It would give the appearance of trying to hide certain financial information while still claiming to be transparent.

If someone doesn't think that they can release 10 years of returns, perhaps that indicates a problem that could come back and bite them - and the Democratic Party - later.

[Cha]

69. Wow.. I hadn't seen that. There GOES his Talking

Point... Blown right out of the water!

Thank You!

[NurseJackie]

28. LOL!

[emulatorloo]

32. That's not true

See Ernst’s post above.

I’ll repeat his list here to make it a little easier:



Gillibrand https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/tax-returns
Booker https://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/cory-booker-tax-returns-096388
Warren https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/23/us-sen-warren-posts-10-years-of-her-tax-returns-online.html
Biden https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/04/15/president-obama-and-vice-president-bidens-2015-tax-returns
Harris https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-here-s-another-glimpse-of-kamala-harris-1520551387-html
Inslee https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/well-off-inslee-better-off-challenger-bryant-release-tax-returns/
Hickenlooper https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2010/04/25/hickenlooper-releases-23-years-of-tax-returns/

[Tipperary]

36. Lol!

Dude, seriously?

[Mr Tibbs]

47. Yes, particularly Harris

As her supporters seem to be the most demanding of others.

[awesomerwb1]

38. Almost none?

[Tom Rinaldo]

25. I consider this a non issue...

because anyone who doesn't this time around will be D.O.A. toast. And yes I will gladly climb aboard slamming any would be Democratic candidate for President who hasn't released their tax returns by the first debate. And I would then back off once they did, assuming they did.

I believe this to be a self correcting potential concern. It's not going to slip by anyone unnoticed if there is someone holding out on releasing their tax returns by the time debates have begun. Conversely, it will not matter in the least whether it took them until April or June to do so, or whether they have already done so..

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. They all should do it.

I hope it becomes a requirement, either for party endorsement or for getting on a ballot, or both.

[Me.]

29. So He Has Been Running For What...1 Day?

Others have been running for years and still nothing.

[forgotmylogin]

53. I really don't care until they become the candidate.

More expeditious to investigate the two nominees and their VP picks rather than the returns of fourteen potential nominees.

[Cha]

70. Then it's too LATE.

[KitSileya]

54. If Beto's "soon" turns into a month

(or even 3 years) like Senator Sanders' "soon" did, I promise I will hound Beto and his supporters as much as I do Senator Sanders. Especially if Beto starts filing for extensions on his FEC filings and start having problems with those he files as well.

[SKKY]

58. They guy just announced. Give him just a bit of breathing room.

[McCamy Taylor]

67. Divide and conquer is never nice. Just say no!

And just say No to another two man race.

[Gothmog]

68. Jennifer Rubins is going to keep on asking this question until sanders releases his tax returns

Link to tweet