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Autumn

(44,958 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:10 AM Aug 2019

Biden camp jumped into damage control after upsetting Latino leaders

Biden echoed a conservative talking point in the last Democratic debate, saying undocumented illegal immigrants need to "get in line."

Joe Biden’s presidential campaign is quietly playing cleanup with dozens of immigration activists and Latino leaders — weeks after upsetting them by using what they considered loaded language to describe his views on immigration policy.

Biden said at the July 31 Democratic debate that undocumented immigrants need to “get in line” and that the country has been right to “cherry-pick” high-skilled immigrants, notably those with advanced degrees.


That language, more commonly used by conservatives, triggered widespread criticism from immigrant rights activists, some of whom said the former vice president was echoing “Republican talking points” on how migrants are admitted to the United States.

The campaign quickly embarked on damage control. Aides assuaged aggrieved activists, and Biden had a closed-door meeting with Latino leaders in San Diego before his speech at the UnidosUS conference last week.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/14/joe-biden-latinos-immigration-2020-1461341
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Biden camp jumped into damage control after upsetting Latino leaders (Original Post) Autumn Aug 2019 OP
Dupe: George II Aug 2019 #1
I doubt the OP cares still_one Aug 2019 #2
Didn't notice that one. Thanks for pointing it out. Autumn Aug 2019 #3
Thanks for posting this one. Some of us work and can't be on here 14 hours a day. progressoid Aug 2019 #13
People seem to think we should know every post I guess. You're welcome. Autumn Aug 2019 #16
Biden's advisers do not seem to be working effectively, competently... hlthe2b Aug 2019 #4
I don't think they are either, but I don't see that changing. Autumn Aug 2019 #5
Oh ...more let's pile on the leader!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #6
Tis the season. Primary season. I believe it's called vetting Autumn Aug 2019 #9
You know, it's actually more important to point out duplicate threads than to respond to True Dough Aug 2019 #17
It's also easier to criticize the person than to discuss the article. Autumn Aug 2019 #18
Especially if that person's name is Autumn True Dough Aug 2019 #19
I don't mind, I have strong shoulders. Autumn Aug 2019 #20
July 31 Debate revisited. oasis Aug 2019 #7
Did it not happen? I'm pretty sure it did. Autumn Aug 2019 #10
Another weak corporate media hit piece brought to us by the millionaires and billionaires. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #8
Obama said, basically, the same thing related to his administration's immigration bill... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #11
That doesn't make it better, they were none too happy with Obama when he said that. Autumn Aug 2019 #22
Freaking out at these sort of benign statements tritsofme Aug 2019 #12
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Aug 2019 #14
Those "freaking out" dozens of immigration activists and Latino leaders? bluewater Aug 2019 #15
One persons freaking out is another persons discussion. Autumn Aug 2019 #21
 

still_one

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2. I doubt the OP cares
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:13 AM
Aug 2019
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Autumn

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3. Didn't notice that one. Thanks for pointing it out.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:14 AM
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progressoid

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13. Thanks for posting this one. Some of us work and can't be on here 14 hours a day.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:51 PM
Aug 2019
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Autumn

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16. People seem to think we should know every post I guess. You're welcome.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:07 PM
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hlthe2b

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4. Biden's advisers do not seem to be working effectively, competently...
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:16 AM
Aug 2019

That they did not convene sessions--much like debate prep--to go through current issues and areas where progressive attitudes have evolved, seems inexplicable to me. Someone who has lived through and worked through more than 40 years of issues and policies-- can not reply based on reflex alone. Areas where there has been either evolution within the party, within society, or in which Trump has taken previously mainstream opinions to the extremes should have been fully fleshed out and addressed.

Plenty of time to do so, but it needs to happen SOON.

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Autumn

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5. I don't think they are either, but I don't see that changing.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:34 AM
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Thekaspervote

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6. Oh ...more let's pile on the leader!!
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:48 AM
Aug 2019
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Autumn

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9. Tis the season. Primary season. I believe it's called vetting
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:15 PM
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True Dough

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17. You know, it's actually more important to point out duplicate threads than to respond to
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:08 PM
Aug 2019

criticism levelled at Uncle Joe. Because the other thread doesn't have any defenses for what was said.

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Autumn

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18. It's also easier to criticize the person than to discuss the article.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:14 PM
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True Dough

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19. Especially if that person's name is Autumn
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:15 PM
Aug 2019

She's always going to take the fall.

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Autumn

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20. I don't mind, I have strong shoulders.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:30 PM
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oasis

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7. July 31 Debate revisited.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:52 AM
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Autumn

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10. Did it not happen? I'm pretty sure it did.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:16 PM
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SouthernProgressive

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8. Another weak corporate media hit piece brought to us by the millionaires and billionaires.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:06 PM
Aug 2019

Just now getting their talking points together from the last debate. Really tells you how well Biden did.

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Skya Rhen

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11. Obama said, basically, the same thing related to his administration's immigration bill...
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:19 PM
Aug 2019

Snip...

"This bill would provide a pathway to earned citizenship for the 11 million individuals who are in this country illegally, a pathway that includes passing a background check, learning English, paying taxes and a penalty, and then going to the back of the line behind everyone who’s playing by the rules and trying to come here legally," Obama said about immigration reform.

Snip...

This bill would modernize the legal immigration system so that, alongside training American workers for the jobs of tomorrow, we’re also attracting highly-skilled entrepreneurs and engineers who will grow our economy. And so that our people don’t have to wait years before their loved ones are able to join them in this country we love.



https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/06/08/obama_jumps_into_immigration_reform_debate_in_weekly_address.html

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Autumn

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22. That doesn't make it better, they were none too happy with Obama when he said that.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:17 PM
Aug 2019

From the article.

Biden has been viewed with suspicion at times by immigration activists. They point to what they call his lack of outreach to Latino communities in the past and his time as vice president under Barack Obama, who was tagged by liberal-leaning activists as the “deporter in chief” because of his administration’s border enforcement policies.

Activists interrupted Biden’s remarks during last month’s debate in Detroit. And in early July, six demonstrators were arrested during a sit-in at Biden’s Philadelphia campaign headquarters.

The tension between Biden’s campaign and the activist community has roots in his overall campaign strategy. He's running as a centrist in a primary in which most of the other top-tier candidates are tilting left. And many liberal activists aren't enthused about an old, white moderate leading the ticket.
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tritsofme

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12. Freaking out at these sort of benign statements
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:40 PM
Aug 2019

Is the sort of thing that causes Democrats to lose elections they shouldn’t.

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bluewater

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15. Those "freaking out" dozens of immigration activists and Latino leaders?
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:20 PM
Aug 2019

People are characterizing them as "freaking out" about Biden "using what they considered loaded language to describe his views on immigration policy" ?

Not a good look.

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Autumn

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21. One persons freaking out is another persons discussion.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:34 PM
Aug 2019

I will never understand why some Democrats think things that happen should not be discussed.

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