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Uncle Joe

(58,342 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:03 AM Aug 2019

The Campaign Press: Members of the 10 Percent, Reporting for the One Percent



(snip)

Employees of the Post were put out by Sanders’s comments. They insisted they hold no ill will against him for regularly bashing the man who writes their checks as one of earth’s most obnoxious plutocrats, and moreover that Sanders is wrong to make the media a “boogeyman” the way he’s turned “billionaires and corporations” into boogeymen. This “doesn’t add up,” noted the Post, going so far as to put the term “corporate media” in quotation marks, as if it were a mythical creature.

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The Post in 2017 asked readers how Democrats would “cope” with the Kremlin backing Bernie Sanders with “dirty tricks” in 2020. In April of this year it described the Sanders campaign as a Russian plot to help elect Donald Trump. They’ve run multiple stories about his “$575,000 lake house,” ripping his “socialist hankering” for real estate. “From each according to his ability,” the paper quipped, “to each according to his need for lakefront property…

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The news media is now loathed in the same way banks, tobacco companies, and health insurance companies are, and it refuses to understand this. Mistakes like WMDs are a problem, but the media’s biggest issue is exactly its bubble-ness, and clubby inability to respond to criticism in any way except to denounce it as misinformation and error. Equating all criticism of media with Trumpism is pouring gasoline on the fire.

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In sum: a $10 million per year anchor for a Comcast subsidiary brings on employees of Bezos and Rupert Murdoch to ask if the press has a problem covering billionaires – and concludes it does not. They confirm the point using a tweet as the modern equivalent of a “man on the street” quote, itself an easily-manipulated device (you can keep asking “men on the street” questions until you get the answer you want), but at least it requires human interaction. That’s circling wagons, not testing hypotheses.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/bernie-sanders-washington-post-media-complaint-872349/

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The Campaign Press: Members of the 10 Percent, Reporting for the One Percent (Original Post) Uncle Joe Aug 2019 OP
When Bernie blames the media for the poor performance of his campaign, it won't work either LanternWaste Aug 2019 #1
Seems many Biden supporters reference the "polls". JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #25
Every Dem should read this article, because sooner-or-later... JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #2
As every candidate in history has. Only the lame ones whine about it. LongtimeAZDem Aug 2019 #3
I could swear I've heard a certain campaign and his supporters whining incessantly about.... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #13
Exactly. George II Aug 2019 #18
I like this snip from the article: JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #4
Last night Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #9
I saw that too. It was good and so was the one on MSNBC. JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #10
I'm still looking for the Anderson Cooper interview of Bernie last night on CNN. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #22
One of the most ignorant part of the article. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #15
...and yet they're not rallying to Bernie's side... brooklynite Aug 2019 #23
I hope no one here is worried about polls. JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #26
And the media bashing continues. Is BS' bashing going to actually accomplish anything.... George II Aug 2019 #5
Why bash the media bias? JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #11
It was critical in the last election. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #16
That wasn't entirely "the media", that was the opposition and sadly some of our own. George II Aug 2019 #19
I'm wondering... JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #27
If only more members of the press crazytown Aug 2019 #6
Not to mention their campaign's National Press Secretary, Briahna Joy Gray, who incited.... George II Aug 2019 #7
Now THAT'S ethics crazytown Aug 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #24
Matt Taibbi couldn't tell the difference between Hillary and Trump. mathematic Aug 2019 #12
Which % is Bernie in?...nt SidDithers Aug 2019 #14
hm....... George II Aug 2019 #20
Members of the ten percent.... SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #17
From Nate Silver-sanders complaints about media coverage do not hold up Gothmog Aug 2019 #21
Attacking the first amendment. Sounds familiar somehow. -nt. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #28
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
1. When Bernie blames the media for the poor performance of his campaign, it won't work either
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:18 AM
Aug 2019

When Biden touched a shoulder it didn't work.

When Biden simply misspoke, it didn't work.

When Bernie blames the media for the poor performance of his campaign, it won't work either... the result will be little more than just a series of posts that will putter out after a few days when the meter illustrates the right Appropriate Righteous Rage will not be met.

Then it's on the the next excuse for his steady decline in the polls.

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JoeOtterbein

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25. Seems many Biden supporters reference the "polls".
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 09:37 PM
Aug 2019

I have feeling many will change their minds about polls, if they turn against Joe.

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JoeOtterbein

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2. Every Dem should read this article, because sooner-or-later...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:22 AM
Aug 2019

...their preferred candidate will be subject to implicit media-bias. In one form or another.

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LongtimeAZDem

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3. As every candidate in history has. Only the lame ones whine about it.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:26 AM
Aug 2019
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
13. I could swear I've heard a certain campaign and his supporters whining incessantly about....
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:05 PM
Aug 2019

.... “gaffe” coverage.

Maybe I dreamed it.

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George II

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18. Exactly.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:56 PM
Aug 2019

EVERY candidate is looked at critically. Those that don't particularly like what they see and hear blame it on the press. To be honest, much of the reporting we've seen about all the candidates has been reasonably accurate. Sure, some is going to be exaggerated or not 100% accurate, but they're not zeroing in on one of 20+ candidates for some imagined reason.

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JoeOtterbein

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4. I like this snip from the article:
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:31 AM
Aug 2019
The public is not stupid. It sees that companies like CNN and NBC are billion-dollar properties, pushing shows anchored by big-city millionaires. A Vanderbilt like Anderson Cooper or a half-wit legacy pledge like Chris Cuomo shoveling coal for Comcast, Amazon, AT&T, or Rupert Murdoch is the standard setup.
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Uncle Joe

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9. Last night
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:51 AM
Aug 2019

Anderson Cooper actually had an excellent interview with Bernie and then afterwards one with Stephen Colbert.

Bernie was quite clear and explicit in explaining his point of view regarding the corporate media conglomerates their corporate ownership including CNN, WAPO, ABC and the industry in general, its' consolidation and how that affects coverage.

Capped off with Bernie's condemnation of Trump's language against the media "fake news" and "enemy of the people" as being "disgusting."

I have been googling for that interview but can only find Anderson's segment with Colbert?

If anyone else can find it, the interview is well worth viewing.

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JoeOtterbein

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10. I saw that too. It was good and so was the one on MSNBC.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:54 AM
Aug 2019

The reason I'm leaning towards Bernie is that he is clear and quick. He never leaves me wondering where he stands on any issue!

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Uncle Joe

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22. I'm still looking for the Anderson Cooper interview of Bernie last night on CNN.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:30 PM
Aug 2019

Anderson interviewed Colbert after Bernie and that video is easy to find ever since this morning.

I find it odd that the interview with a major Presidential candidate still hasn't been posted on the Internet.

Maybe tomorrow?

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SouthernProgressive

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15. One of the most ignorant part of the article.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:08 PM
Aug 2019

Well done highlighting it.

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brooklynite

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23. ...and yet they're not rallying to Bernie's side...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 09:30 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

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26. I hope no one here is worried about polls.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:56 PM
Aug 2019

Don't forget '16!

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George II

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5. And the media bashing continues. Is BS' bashing going to actually accomplish anything....
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:33 AM
Aug 2019

....except create more division? The answer is no. All this bashing is going to do is create even more "negative" press from the so-called millionaire media.

He should start getting into the details of his proposals and present them to Democrats and the American people. THAT is what we're all looking for, not continued (and in many cases false) criticism of the big bad media.



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JoeOtterbein

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11. Why bash the media bias?
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:56 AM
Aug 2019

Because of what they did to Hillary in '16.

I'll never forget "her emails". I hope all our Dems remember. It is critical this election.

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SouthernProgressive

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16. It was critical in the last election.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:11 PM
Aug 2019

Sanders barely lifted a finger for Clinton. He sure didn't rail against the media for her daily. He is taking part is a blatantly selfish act.

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George II

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19. That wasn't entirely "the media", that was the opposition and sadly some of our own.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:57 PM
Aug 2019
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JoeOtterbein

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27. I'm wondering...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:58 PM
Aug 2019

...who the is "one of our own"????

Because I can tell you clearly; I belong to no one, and neither does anyone here on DU!

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crazytown

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6. If only more members of the press
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:35 AM
Aug 2019

had the unimpeachable ethics of David Sirota.

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George II

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7. Not to mention their campaign's National Press Secretary, Briahna Joy Gray, who incited....
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:39 AM
Aug 2019

...BS' followers to dox someone who dared to have a difference of opinion from BS.

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mathematic

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12. Matt Taibbi couldn't tell the difference between Hillary and Trump.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:04 PM
Aug 2019

He fundamentally misunderstands the world around him and anybody that is convinced by his analysis is equally poorly informed.

Just this march he spun the russia investigation as overblown media hype that is devastating to the media's credibility.

He transparently and desperately wants to blame hillary's loss on hillary's politics, which aren't anti-establishment enough for him, instead of on the rise of (anti-establishment) white supremacy, decades of voter suppression, and foreign russian interference.

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SidDithers

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14. Which % is Bernie in?...nt
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:07 PM
Aug 2019

Sid

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SouthernProgressive

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17. Members of the ten percent....
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:15 PM
Aug 2019

Reporting on one percent earners.

There. Corrected it for you. So the complaint now is that ten percenters are commenting on Sanders, a one percent earner.

Two national politicians are going after the press relentlessly. It is the cornerstone of authoritarian populism.

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Gothmog

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21. From Nate Silver-sanders complaints about media coverage do not hold up
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:50 PM
Aug 2019

Senator Warren has just as liberal or even more liberal platform compared to sanders and she is not being hurt in the polls or getting bad press coverage


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Amimnoch

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28. Attacking the first amendment. Sounds familiar somehow. -nt.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:03 PM
Aug 2019
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