Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhile Bernie Sanders attacked Amazon, his campaign quietly spent $139,000 on the site.
"Do as I say not as I do" appears be the motto for the Sanders campaign. How can we take Bernie's criticism of Amazon seriously after this?Sanders' campaign told the Center for Public Integrity: "Senator Sanders has not flinched in taking on Amazon and other large corporate monopolies, and he will continue to take them on when he's in the White House."
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sanders-and-warren-campaigns-spend-big-on-amazon-2019-8
Talk is cheap but not as cheap as Amazon office supplies!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,982 posts)Its easy to see why the company has become a prime target for Sanders. A recent SEC filing put the median salary at $28,446 less than owner Jeff Bezos makes every 10 seconds.
We have every reason to believe that many, many thousands of Amazon workers in their warehouses throughout the country are earning very low wages, Sanders explained. Its hard to get this information. Amazon has not been very forthcoming. From what information weve gathered, one out of three Amazon workers in Arizona, as we understand it, are on public assistance. They are receiving either Medicaid, food stamps or public housing.
The Senator acknowledges that nothing about what Amazon is doing, on the face of it, is breaking any laws. But the discrepancy between its highest and lowest wage earners is enough for him to call into question why government subsidies are required to buoy those on the bottom rung. This is precisely what the proposed legislation aims to address.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/28/bernie-sanders-problem-with-amazon/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,982 posts)If so you may want to discuss it. Or not. It's really up to you. We are talking about a huge corporation, Amazon that millions of people use daily and the owner makes $28,446 every 10 seconds, more than his employees make in a year? And many of those employees are on public assistance. I think that's wrong. Don't you?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)So do as I say not as I do is false made up bullshit.
Bernie shamed them in to paying their employees more. And it worked.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,982 posts)But a Senator can. He uses Amazon, he's not supporting Amazon.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Excellent point. Sanders never said to boycott them. His actions show they are a corporation worth using. The excellence of the WaPo is just icing on the cake. It's all political bluster.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....he isn't doing what Amazon is doing, paying his OWN workers $15 per hour.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Crowman2009
(2,490 posts)Especially when something that I'm looking for is not available at any store, or the stores which have the more common stuff I use to find are out of business.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,982 posts)I want or need is not practical.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Good job using them. I do as well. The WP does great work and it all helps in the end.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,982 posts)why I don't support them. I don't bother with the WP.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Hmmm.... there's a word for that.... now, what is it??? Give me a moment while I
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Huh.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sanders-and-warren-campaigns-spend-big-on-amazon-2019-8
Yeah right.
Does this mean Bernie will continue eating $195 $teak$ and doing bu$ine$$ with Amazon and Walmart "when he in the White House"? Voters want to know!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Bernie is even lower on my list than Biden is, but using a company and then denouncing them for not paying enough taxes is not hypocritical.
He didn't say we should boycott them, and he hasn't advocated that they no longer exists.
He has gone after them for some of their worker policies and the fact that they often pay no taxes.
This is a weak diary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,982 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)Seriously, you'll never see that finger of his pointing in his direction while he uses private planes, pays for high power lunches (what was the price tag for that meal...$1000.?) and all the other perks and practices that are just for him not for us. All we get is a cheap meal of his constant whining and whinges.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)is one of them.
We could accomplish SO much if we had DEMOCRATS in power, completely. People with TRACK records of getting shit done.
THEN and only then we can watch the R party die as it should and a new further LEFT party appear and then we can argue democratic socialism as in how much of it we want instead of arguing now with fascist traitors i.e. GOP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....that's about 10 contributions plus tax and tip.
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R B Garr
(16,950 posts)exhibited over other candidates catering menus.
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SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)You just have to become a best selling author.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)The day after taking a drumming in a debate?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)and a very fine white wine?
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....declared that expense impermissible.
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lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)Still blows my mind. I see it was crab for the "settling in"...unbelievable waste of hard-earned donator's money as was that Hollywood pretentious lunch.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Do you think all of his small donors know how their money is being spent?
I think HuffPo says Bernie has hauled in more money thus far than any other candidate in the article I posted excerpts of as an OP: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287242447
Bernie needs money for lobster, folks!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)his people are really keyed into the campaign for the most part but maybe, just like with the traitor in the WH, they know and don't care.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Bernie should make that a topic filler in his next chat with Cardi B. He could inspire his supporters: "You too can eat like me but you'll have to work 13 hours or 1 and 0.6 workdays to eat what I had last week. Thank you, small donors!"
Iowans might also be interested in Bernie'$ dedication to the ga$tronomic a$pect$ of his "permanent revolution".
to Me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)dedication to the ga$tronomic a$pect$ of his "permanent revolution"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Thanks for the tip, Southern Progressive!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....paid for the dinners of the other millionaires who were at that dinner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)I didn't know he gave fundraisers to get $$ from other millionaires.
How many times have I heard Bernie rail against the influence of "millionaires and billionaires" to say he is only powered by small donors? How many emails have I gotten from Bernie that denounce the influence of money from millionaires and billionaires when exhorting his mailing list of small donors to give him more donations?
Wow. Am I naive or what?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)(pay site) https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/bernie-sanders-playbook-for-winning-the-black-vote
The campaign picked up the tab.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Bernie has always railed against taking money from "millionaires and billionaires" and boasted of his small donor base as the antidote to such money in politics but he doesn't mind wining and dining said "millionaires and billionaires" on his small donors' dime to get campaign donations from them?
The scales have fallen from my eyes. Sigh.
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George II
(67,782 posts)....the equivalent of 245 contributions of $19 each.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Perhaps 245 small donations with an average of $19 each, eh?
Not a good look, Bernie!!
Hmmm.... lemme see:
open bar with high-quality liquor good enough for those millionaires and billionaires to get tipsy enough to write bigger checks than when they are sober;
exquisite appetizers (no pigs in a blanket);
delicate confections and desserts (no Hershey's Kisses or chocolate pudding w/Cool Whip topping).
This OP makes me hungry. Too bad I don't have any small donors.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...with drinks and desserts, this could have been over $10K.
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Me.
(35,454 posts)or 1 and .6 workday
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)I'll update my post now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,982 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Such double standards, again.
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ExciteBike66
(2,297 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)I guess it's okay if it's just a little hypocritical.
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Voltaire2
(12,962 posts)the established order, so its ok.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,853 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)What a hypocrite. Hillary Clinton talked to Richard Mellon Scaife, what a hypocrite. Barack Obama opposed military intervention in Iraq, but became commander in chief, what a hypocrite.
This is a sad copy of a right wing talking point. If person A supports position X but doesn't also Y, they are a hypocrite.
Usually position X is straw maned as in the OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,853 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)Put in the form of an argument.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Not cool.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,187 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jg10003
(975 posts)I support a $15 minimum wage but I still eat at McDonald's.
I believe that migrant workers are exploited but I still eat fruits and vegetables.
I oppose nuclear energy but I still pay my electric bill.
I think the income gap is a real problem, but I enjoy a night on the town occasionally.
The energy crisis is real, but I am not turning off my air conditioner (I live in South Florida).
I will vote for whoever will be the most forceful advocate for progressive policies regardless of what he/she has for lunch, how they travel, where they buy their office supplies, or how many books they sell.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LAS14
(13,769 posts)... hermits in the desert to prove their sincerity in attacking society's ills.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nini
(16,672 posts)There are other places to spend that money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Nothing like supporting them with $139,000.00 worth of business.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden