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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

elleng

(130,732 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:05 PM Aug 2019

*Watch Lawrence show for his guest, EDITED

who has predicted results of 2020 election, 278 for the Dem candidate WHOMEVER it is!! Her name is Rachel XXX. LATER!


Rachel Bitecofer predicted last year's midterms with incredible accuracy. Her 2020 forecast is ... not too bad

https://www.salon.com/2019/08/17/this-political-scientist-completely-nailed-the-2018-blue-wave-heres-her-2020-forecast/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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*Watch Lawrence show for his guest, EDITED (Original Post) elleng Aug 2019 OP
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #1
Rachel Bitecofer. Here's her prediction: highplainsdem Aug 2019 #2
Nice grab! She's on here in 30 minutes...nt B Stieg Aug 2019 #3
She is the Nate Silver of the new generation. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #4
278 is too close for me, unless I'm waking up 11/4/2020. I'm holding my breathe. Hoyt Aug 2019 #5
If it is that close, murielm99 Aug 2019 #7
Can you imagine going through a month or two of a contested results where one state Hoyt Aug 2019 #13
DARN, WISH she'd been on longer, for more info on her approach, elleng Aug 2019 #6
She has more data analysis coming, I'm sure she'll be back Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #14
She said it's all about the base, not the undecided voter flamingdem Aug 2019 #8
Not about REPUGS, she said. elleng Aug 2019 #9
True, but I took it to mean people who lean a bit repug flamingdem Aug 2019 #11
She specifically said don't worry about motivating moderate DEMS Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #15
She's right of course BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #18
That info should be its own OP Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #20
No, she specifically differentiated between moderates and Democrats in that part of highplainsdem Aug 2019 #19
She's right about that! jberryhill Aug 2019 #12
yes, it's about TURNOUT and dealing with Republican voter suppression attempts. JI7 Aug 2019 #16
We'll have to wait to see how the wool on the caterpillars turns out jberryhill Aug 2019 #10
LOL! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #17
 

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
3. Nice grab! She's on here in 30 minutes...nt
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:16 PM
Aug 2019

THX

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
4. She is the Nate Silver of the new generation.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:20 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. 278 is too close for me, unless I'm waking up 11/4/2020. I'm holding my breathe.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:42 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
7. If it is that close,
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:26 PM
Aug 2019

trump may contest the election. He may try to muddy the waters, call for recounts, rile his base into civil unrest...anything.

I would like to see a higher number than 278.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Can you imagine going through a month or two of a contested results where one state
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:54 PM
Aug 2019

could give us 4 more years of trump? Christ.

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elleng

(130,732 posts)
6. DARN, WISH she'd been on longer, for more info on her approach,
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:01 PM
Aug 2019

and applicability for the Senate.

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Fiendish Thingy

(15,551 posts)
14. She has more data analysis coming, I'm sure she'll be back
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 12:24 AM
Aug 2019

Hopefully on Rachel Maddow next time.

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flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
8. She said it's all about the base, not the undecided voter
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:30 PM
Aug 2019

So lets gotv!

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elleng

(130,732 posts)
9. Not about REPUGS, she said.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:32 PM
Aug 2019

ADD this:

'The explanation, of course, is that it was this giant turnout of core constituencies, that either are Democrats or favor Democrats — they’re independents who favor Democrats — and they have a huge turnout explosion. So it's not the same pool of voters changing their minds and voting Democrat after voting Republican because of the issue of health care. It's a whole different pool of voters.

They might have many reasons that they cite, and probably this is not the reason they would cite. But what made them enraged and show up is Trump Inc., the negative partisanship. I don't know why Nancy Pelosi, the DCCC or many of these moderate members are convinced that moderate Republicans crossed over and voted for them. I have the data for some of these districts and the data tells a very different, very clear story: If Republicans voted in huge numbers, they voted for Republicans.'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287246088

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flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
11. True, but I took it to mean people who lean a bit repug
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:34 PM
Aug 2019

that we're told we should peel off.

Instead we need to work on our own.

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Fiendish Thingy

(15,551 posts)
15. She specifically said don't worry about motivating moderate DEMS
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 12:27 AM
Aug 2019

It's the progressive base that needs to be inspired turn out in massive numbers, not comforting moderates with a "safe" candidate, which could depress turnout in the base.

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BeyondGeography

(39,347 posts)
18. She's right of course
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:11 AM
Aug 2019

And there already are plenty of underlying numbers between the “safe” front runner and the more inspirational candidates that back her up:

...there’s an enthusiasm gap for Biden among some primary voters, the poll found. A majority of those surveyed, 56%, said Warren would fight “a great deal” for people like them, and 54% said the same of Sanders. Only 38% described Biden that way.

When asked who has been the most “passionate” so far, Warren and Sanders each had 28%, while Biden had just 14%. Warren, who has touted her policy proposals, was seen as the most specific candidate, with 42%, while Harris was seen as the strongest with 32%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-21/biden-leads-in-new-cbs-democratic-poll-but-faces-enthusiasm-gap


Biden’s dwindling online fundraising support is another indicator.
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Fiendish Thingy

(15,551 posts)
20. That info should be its own OP
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 09:49 AM
Aug 2019

Those data points capture some of the essence of what will inspire voter turnout, especially among young voters.

If young voters turnout in significant numbers, WE WILL WIN.

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highplainsdem

(48,912 posts)
19. No, she specifically differentiated between moderates and Democrats in that part of
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:22 AM
Aug 2019

the interview.

See this reply in another thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287246088#post26

She said moderates can be appealed to, but Democrats don't do it well.

So there she meant centrist independents when she used the term "moderate." I wish she'd be more precise when she also talks about moderate Dems, since it caused this confusion.

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. She's right about that!
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:38 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,240 posts)
16. yes, it's about TURNOUT and dealing with Republican voter suppression attempts.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:22 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. We'll have to wait to see how the wool on the caterpillars turns out
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:34 PM
Aug 2019

Or whether the rhubarb blooms early.
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