Nina Turner seems.....angry

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[CurtEastPoint]

1. Dayum

[hlthe2b]

2. Turner is one wretched person... n/t

[NurseJackie]

196. I can't stand her.

She makes me sick. Plus, she lies by omission.

[madaboutharry]

3. None of us know what Nina Turner's problem is but she certainly has one.

I have never seen her calm or measured. She is always angry and negative. I don't understand how Bernie thinks she helps him.

[MBS]

5. Agree 100% n/t

[JI7]

6. why separate Sanders from Turner and others who are supporting him ? he hires them because

he agrees with them and he is pretty much like them. and the one who most likely influences them.

[ehrnst]

48. They certainly get the job of saying publicly what would be unacceptable for a white male to say.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2019/04/29/sanders-campaign-adviser-nina-turner-struggles-to-explain-bernies-approach-at-forum-slams-black-women-for-booing-him/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/susan-sarandon-appears-to-snipe-at-elizabeth-warren-while-introducing-bernie-sanders-at-iowa-event

[ehrnst]

36. She reminds me of Norma McCorvey.

It looks as though aligns with who validates her personally, in the way in which she feels a need to be validated.

[thesquanderer]

56. Sanders' questionable hires is one reason he's not my choice this time.

Sure, he had some questionable hires four years ago (even some of the same ones), but back then, their qualities were not as well known ahead of time, and also, being the upstart candidate, he did not have his pick, he had to take people where he could find them. This time, he was in a strong position to get practically anyone he wanted... he should have gotten better people. We don't need angry and divisive. Even if ehiring NT was part of an effort to get/keep some high profile people of color in his campaign, he could have done better. As a public spokesperson, she does not serve him well.

[Midnight Writer]

88. Yes, I cringed listening to Jeff Weaver in 2016. Found him to be very negative about Democrats.

[cwydro]

4. Wow, not even going to comment on her grammar.

Really, this is the best Bernie can do?

[handmade34]

7. whoa...

let it go Nina... maybe truth hurts

[Cha]

8. Neera is correct and she has a right to comment

on SS assisting trump in 2016.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

lol@TheHoarse..

Link to tweet

[sharedvalues]

12. Excellent, Cha

Exactly

[Cha]

15. Thank you, sharedvalues!

[comradebillyboy]

60. I kind of like that Hoarse Whisperer fellow...

[Cha]

62. Yeah, me too.. he's the one the

BS campaign doxxed for telling the truth.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=240651

[uponit7771]

92. WOW !!! Didn't know Sarandon voted Nader ... jus damn, she's been a hack for the longest

[customerserviceguy]

143. I didn't recall that, either

Seems she's of the view that things need to get way worse before they can get better by a "revolution". Of course, she's going to be fed, housed, clothed, and comfortable, but screw the rest of us when the shit goes down.

[Cha]

150. Yeah, SS backed John Edwards, too.. over

then Senator Obama. Edwards the guy who voted for the IWR.

[uponit7771]

167. Hmmmm, she sure has some hang ups

[jcgoldie]

9. AhhhhhHaaaaahhh!

Nina seems a little sensitive about something? Hit a little too close to home I suppose. Fuck her.

[vsrazdem]

10. Trump won because of an F'ed up gerrymandered system and the same shit you guys are doing right now.

Dividing us. Did you learn nothing from the last time.

[sharedvalues]

14. Trump "won" (stole the election) for a lot of reasons

Many things had to happen at the same time for Trunp to steal the election.
Voter suppression
The electoral college
And also, Susan Sarandon. She helped elect him.

She doesn’t need to be the only reason for her to be a reason.

[still_one]

17. Please explain to me how gerrymandering affects STATEWIDE elections,such as the President and Senate

In those critical swing states, Hillary lost by LESS THAN 1%. Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those states.

It didn't take much, and IT WAS A FACTOR in putting trump into the WH.

It is laughable referring to this as "you guys are dividing us"

Who is dividing who?

Who hired people in their campaign who not only voted for Jill Stein, but encouraged others to do likewise, and have absolutely NO REGRET doing so.

The one doing the dividing is the Sanders campaign, and they have effectively told those who supported the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE in 2016 that they don't need them to win the primary.

We'll see how that works out for them as the primary field narrows down.

There is a reason Elizabeth Warren has momentum on her side, and Sanders has not moved beyond his ever shrinking base.

People see what a divisionary force his entire campaign is as evidenced by his hiring of Sirota, Turner, and Banks.

[Docreed2003]

22. Preach!!!

So tired of hearing "you've learned nothing" and threats to take their ball and go home like they did the last time. I'm sick of people like Turner and Sarandon and other current members of the Sanders campaign refusing to acknowledge that they got EXACTLY what they pushed for when they actively encouraged people to vote against Hillary. Take some responsibility and own your actions! Our country is in a moment of crisis and these fools want to continue to play games.

I voted for Sanders in the primaries in '16 and was a vocal supporter here and elsewhere but I will not support him this time precisely because of surrogates like these.

[still_one]

26. That is what primaries are for, you debate and discuss the issues, and differences between the

candidates, but when the nominee has been determined, we come together

What probably disturbs me most, is the few who voted third party, they don't have any regret doing so, even after everything that has happened, and I just cannot understand that

[Docreed2003]

28. Agree 100%

[mcar]

31. This!

[questionseverything]

139. the bernie haters make it difficult for bernie supporters to vote for another candidate

in 2016 after the convention I left du so I could swallow and vote hc

I have no doubt that if I had stayed and read the haters here everyday I could not of done it

no doubt at least some of the Bernie haters are putins bots trying to divide otherwise democrats would realize they need the Bernie voters

so laugh away but I am telling you, you are the problem

[Cha]

147. BS brings it on himself with hiring

divisive jill stein voters.

They are the problem. All you have are personal attacks.

[Eliot Rosewater]

158. I see certain folks are WARNING us AGAIN that we better be nice, or else.

[Cha]

159. They never learn.. well some of

us do.

[crazytown]

192. Who are 'us' ?

[questionseverything]

161. i did not attack, i told my own story about how i managed to get past the bernie haters and vote hc

there were 40,000 blank presidential ballots in Detroit that couldn't do the same

the Bernie haters are part of the problem

I have even seen people here at du say he should run on his own...wtf? we don't need the ticket split

if we had rank choice voting stein wouldn't have been an issue but the powers that be wont do that as it would break the 2 party system

<shrug>

[Cha]

163. Yeah yeah.. there you go again.. we

have a right to speak out against Sanders and his divisive jill stein voting staff, who are the PROBLEM, without your "berniehaters" attack.

[questionseverything]

165. so u were in the booth with them huh?

Nina Turner
✔
@ninaturner


You don’t know who the hell I voted for. Don’t bring it here @neeratanden. You don’t want to do this dance. It’s because of mean, hateful neo-liberals like you that we have Trump in the White House. Own your sh*t. Don’t ever come for me. I only had one momma and she’s dead.
https://
twitter.com/neeratanden/st
atus/1163976493267128321
…

[Cha]

166. Oh please.. do not try to cover for Nina Turner..

[Eliot Rosewater]

194. Hug your kids and grands, certain folks are gonna NOT vote for our candidate and it is going to

end many lives.

[Demsrule86]

190. Nina's our revolution wouldn't support candidates who voted for Hillary so consider what that means.

I believe she has publicly said she didn't vote for Hillary. And just before the election said 'just vote, doesn't matter who you vote for'...I hate her with the passion of a 1000 suns as one always feels more dislike when the person betraying the party was someone you once liked.

[Demsrule86]

189. You 'own story' both attacks Duers, and amounts to a threat. Most disturbing post. Time you and

others who feel as you do understand that what we say shouldn't affect anyone's vote here because unless a person votes blue no matter who they enable Republicans. This is the problem. There will be candidates you like better than others...I adored and still do Howard Dean, but I voted for Kerry in the general. My guy lost and I voted for the Democratic nominee. Sanders has hired more than a few Stein supporters and that is disturbing as she actively undermined Hillary and helped the GOP and Russians put Trump in office...so hold the threats and consider what your life will be like if Trump gets reelected and gets another court pick. He is talking 'mental hospitals' that would be prison for those who don't agree with him...dangerous guy and nothing should stop a responsible person from voting him out by voting for the nominee...third party votes are a vote for Trump...Hell I would vote for a yellow dog if it got rid of Trump.

[Eliot Rosewater]

157. So you MIGHT not vote for the Democratic candidate if supporters of other candidates

are not nice to you?

I see that you are saying if non Bernie supporters are NOT NICE to you, you WONT vote for the Democratic candidate, maybe?

Yeah, heard that one once before.

I am not surprised.

That the problem is NOT people who wont vote for the D, you are saying the problem is the people who WILL!

[questionseverything]

164. i will simply leave du so i dont see the meanness of the bernie haters so i can swallow and vote blu

trouble is, lots of people wont

how you think you help your candidate by being an ass about other peoples candidates I do not understand


why are you going out of your way to be a jerk to Bernie supporters? do you think it helps?


<shrugs>

[ehrnst]

179. Well, then, goodbye.

[questionseverything]

180. after convention ehrnst

sorry to disappoint

but I am sure you will find plenty of folks to run off..don't despair

[ehrnst]

186. I'm just responding to your post, where you said DU was making you not want to vote blue...

So you were going to leave.

i will simply leave du so i dont see the meanness of the bernie haters so i can swallow and vote blue

I take it you've changed your mind?

[questionseverything]

195. is it your intention to try and drive away long time democratic supporters?

after convention...you will just have to wait

[ehrnst]

197. Find a sale on straw men?

You said that you were leaving DU, not me...

Why so defensive?

[questionseverything]

198. ...

questionseverything (5,321 posts)
139. the bernie haters make it difficult for bernie supporters to vote for another candidate

in 2016 after the convention I left du so I could swallow and vote hc

I have no doubt that if I had stayed and read the haters here everyday I could not of done it

no doubt at least some of the Bernie haters are putins bots trying to divide otherwise democrats would realize they need the Bernie voters

so laugh away but I am telling you, you are the problem

[ehrnst]

199. By "haters"

you mean those who don't agree with you? Or those who didn't "swallow and vote hrc?"

And Li'l ole me is "the problem?" Flattering you think I have that much influence, even here on DU...

[Cha]

200. I care about the Planet more than my

hurt feelings.

[oasis]

201. +1000 because people need to wake up.

[betsuni]

170. "no doubt at least some of the Bernie haters are Putin's bots"

No. "Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Bernie and Trump - we support them)." Russia used Bernie and Trump supporters to divide America.

[questionseverything]

182. putin used bots to fight both sides duh

silly wabbit

[betsuni]

183. "Bernie haters" can't be Putin bots because the bots pretend to be Bernie supporters.

They spread conspiracy theories and misinformation about Democrats and pretend to promote Bernie. Doesn't make sense to say that criticism of Sanders is from Putin bots.

[questionseverything]

185. putin works both sides

the one I remember from du was blackactivist

the bots pretended to be black militants and white nationalists just to stir crap

we lost in 2016 by less than 1 % in 3 dif states...why would anyone run off a single democratic supporter?

we should be reaching out to those peops not acting like they are stupid or evil for who they supported first

[betsuni]

187. No. People who vote for Democrats do not gullibly fall for anti-Democratic propaganda.

Don't know what you're talking about. Blacktavist promoted anti-Democratic propaganda. Everyone knows this.

[ehrnst]

188. Not the side of the Democratic nominee for POTUS - Just Trump, Stein and Sanders.

That's not "both sides" - they were working to divide Democrats and gin up hate for Hillary.

That's not 'our side.' Militant groups are not "our side."

Speak for yourself.

[RhodeIslandOne]

172. I'm glad you voted for Hillary

I cannot imagine what it would be like to waste one's vote on a third party or not vote at all after seeing the last two and half years of hell.

[questionseverything]

181. i vote blue no matter what but i can see how someone on the fence could be turned off

and at least some do not seem to care


makes me very angry that they seem to think their venting over past grievances is more important than us winning

and it is always the same bunch

[BannonsLiver]

112. Gerrymandering plays no role in General Elections for President

Those are statewide votes. I recommend a civics refresher course.

[still_one]

11. This is why Sanders will NOT get the Democratic nomination. He is effectly telling those who

supported the Democratic nominee in 2016 that he doesn't care whether he gets their support or not.

I think that mindset will prove his undoing, especially if the primaries go to a brokered convention.

Those Hillary supporters represent a large block of voters, and I suspect because of his hiring people to high positions in his campaign, along with embracing those who not only voted for Jill Stein, encouraged others to do likewise, and have no regrets doing so, this will come back to bite him bigtime.

Should this go to a brokered convention, I believe very few of those Hillary supporters would be putting their support behind Sanders, and whichever candidate is able to garnish that voting blocks support, will be the next Democratic nominee.

and in my view, that is why it is very unlikely that he will be able to secure the Democratic nomination.

They have essentially made a conscious decision to dis those who supported the Democratic nominee, over those who supported a third party candidate, and was instrumental in putting trump into the WH. That will not be forgotten.

In those critical swing states, Hillary lost by less than 1%. In each one of those states, Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.

I suspect their anger will become even more pronounced as it becomes evident that their campaign is not moving beyond its continued shrinking base.

[Cha]

18. HoarseWhisperer weighs in..

Link to tweet

Hoarse is the one Sanders' hires doxxed..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287240651

Yeah, the worst coalition builder ever!

Mahalo, still_one!

[still_one]

19. LOL

[NYMinute]

77. I love Hoarse Whisperer nt

[dalton99a]

80. +1. Such a despicable bunch

[Cha]

149. Indeed.. and

we're the ones who are sometimes accused of being "divisive" for commenting on them. lol

[The King of Prussia]

13. So would I be

if people kept spelling my name with an "N" instead of a "T".

[TreasonousBastard]

16. Imagine Nina and crew raising hell in the White House...

[MrsCoffee]

35. No thanks.

[TreasonousBastard]

66. I hope I was clear that I was not suggesting in any way that would be a good thing...

From Stephen Miller to Nina Turner would lengthen the nightmare.

[MrsCoffee]

71. You were clear.

I just didn’t want to imagine it.

[still_one]

20. What I admire about Nina Turner is how even tempered she is.

ANGRY ALL OF THE TIME

[Sherman A1]

21. What is a Nina Turner

and why is anything she says important?

[brooklynite]

25. She's the National Co-Chair of the Sanders campaign...

[lark]

34. So, shame on Sanders for having the drumpf enabler be part of his crew.

Seems like he's ok with having fascist government since we didn't pick him? Disgusting!!!

[Cha]

23. Nina came on all the news channels after the primaries and said she wasn't voting for Hillary..

Link to tweet

[evertonfc]

24. Angry

She wakes up angry, goes to bed angry and turns off so many people. Look, Bernie isn't going to be the nominee - so I'm afraid she may go off the rails.

[justie18]

29. Plus

Not only will he not get the nomination, but he will not concede at the appropriate time. Anyone remember the 2016 with all the Bernie Bros every speaker, including Hillary? A divided convention spells doom for the general election.

[vsrazdem]

27. Yes, we should all keep fighting amongst ourselves because it is so productive. Keep fighting that

last election, because it turned out so well for us.

[MrsCoffee]

37. Hillary won by millions of votes.

The only thing that could beat her was treason.

You got some messed up talking points.

Tina and crew’s whole strategy is to be divisive. A brokered convention is his last hope.

Unity Tour my ass. Bernie’s campaign is already dead in the water because of crap like this.

[ehrnst]

38. Interesting that when Bernie or his surrogates are scrutinized it's "divisive" or "bashing"

according to many Sanders supporters, but when rivals are scrutinized, it's called "holding them accountable."

[vsrazdem]

40. Disagree. The media are doing the same thing to Joe, bashing democrats and getting

them to fight among each other. Saying he's lost it. Joe has always had gaffs and always will. It does not mean that he is not fit to be president. They will do or say anything to start the ball rollling, and then just let the surrogates and supporters carry the ball from there. That is the playbook.

[ehrnst]

42. I've seen it all over DU and social media. So, yes, it's a trend.

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[Cha]

41. Yeah, and their "divisive" accusations

aren't working.. I don't know why they bother.

Nina's "divisive..

Link to tweet

[ehrnst]

44. I think that certain staffing choices were made for the result of

divisiveness.

That works to the advantage of certain candidates.

[Cha]

53. Yes, BS hired so many jill stein advocators..

we expected "divisiveness" from the get go.

Not sure how advantages it is, though.. in the long run.

[ehrnst]

93. It depends on what the actual goal is, in terms of how advantageous those hires are. (nt)

[Cha]

151. Yeah, naive me..

[thesquanderer]

101. You are right that both of those perspectives can be found on DU...

...but it's not "interesting" or even noteworthy unless the same person posted both perspectives. Otherwise, it is not at all surprising that--regardless of candidate--some people may see a given criticism as bashing while others may see it as vetting.

[LanternWaste]

144. One can also find perspectives on DU that surmise

One can also find perspectives on DU that surmise an intoxicated rape victim is as responsible for her plight as an intoxicated driver getting into an accident.

Interesting... indeed, even noteworthy, despite being a position held by fewer than two people.

[George II]

52. Perhaps you should direct that to Nina Turner, Brie Brie, David Sirota, Susan Sarandon...

...Cornell West, et. al.

They're the ones who can't help fighting with Democrats.

[vsrazdem]

55. No thanks, I'm not playing that game.

[ehrnst]

87. You mean apply the same standards to those who are Sanders supporters?

[LongtimeAZDem]

59. +1

[ehrnst]

86. This is a thing you do, isn't it?

Whenever someone criticizes Senator Sanders or surrogates, you accuse them of 'being divisive" and intimating that's the 'reason why' we have Donald Trump.

[vsrazdem]

169. It is very sad that you have to attack me personally for disagreeing with your point of view.

I don't know where you are getting your information from. I am trying to point out that being divisive is not helping us and you read something totally different in your mind.

[Cha]

174. Nina Turner is "Divisive".. talk to

her if you're so worried about it.

[vsrazdem]

177. Personally, I don't like either one of them. Both of them are not helping the party with this fight

[Cha]

178. That's right.

[Horizens]

123. KARMA

All the unity and support bernie and his staff gave Hillary. Right Back Atcha.

NEVER BERNIE

[susanr516]

202. Nope

I can't foresee any way I'd cast a vote for Bernie in the primary, but if he becomes the Democratic nominee, I'm all in for Bernie. As you should be.

[Demsrule86]

191. Do you think it is right that Sanders surrogates are attacking other Democratic candidates after he

made a promise? Sanders is my second choice because I believe he can win Wisconsin and that would stop Trump but I got to say...he and his folks make it tough.

[mcar]

30. Maybe cut back on caffeine, Nina?

[George II]

57. Either that or another donut?

[mcar]

72. ...

[lapucelle]

130. Perhaps Nina is simply hangry.

hangry

bad-tempered or irritable as a result of hunger.

[George II]

131. .

[MrsCoffee]

32. She was offered Green Party VP spot, but we aren't supposed to believe she voted for Jill.

This woman is dense.

[lark]

33. So, Turner is fine with having put drumpf in office.

Yes, she enabled the Nazis and what she has to say is irrelevant and inane.

[Autumn]

39. Everyone seems angry and nasty. Maybe they should stay off twitter. There's never

a reason to call a woman a b***h.

Link to tweet

[Hassin Bin Sober]

43. I hope Elizabeth distances herself from the people using misogynistic slurs against a woman.

Has Elizabeth made a statement?

[ehrnst]

46. Has Elizabeth ever been associated with Claude Taylor?

Like Bernie has with Sarandon and Nina Turner?

Interesting that female Bernie surrogates are the ones who publicly go after other women.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2019/04/29/sanders-campaign-adviser-nina-turner-struggles-to-explain-bernies-approach-at-forum-slams-black-women-for-booing-him/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/susan-sarandon-appears-to-snipe-at-elizabeth-warren-while-introducing-bernie-sanders-at-iowa-event

[Hassin Bin Sober]

63. Whataboutism whataboutism whataboutism

[ehrnst]

89. Not at all. Pointing out the obvious. (nt)

[George II]

107. No whataboutism whatseoever. Taylor doesn't work for the Warren campaign or is a surrogate...

...the SUBJECT of the OP, Nina Turner, is BS' campaign co-chair.

[lapucelle]

104. What about that time someone outside of Warren's campaign called Cashmere SuSu

a bitch? Claude Taylor is mean! And Warren's even meaner because Claude Taylor!

[Autumn]

51. Not that I know. It's disapointing for a man who worked in the Clinton White House and a Hillary

supporter to be calling any woman names like that. I will never believe Hillary would approve of that.

[ehrnst]

90. I know. Sanders supporters would NEVER use that kind of language about a woman.

Especially on DU..

[lapucelle]

133. "Lapdog" is gender-neutral. Cashmere SuSu is no bitch.

Link to tweet

[George II]

145. BS' latest BFF and surrogate, Cardi B, made a video saying "vote for Daddy Bernie, bitch"...

...and worse. This was in 2019. Taylor hasn't been in the Clinton White House since at least 2000.

Link to tweet

[Autumn]

146. So what. Cardi B is a rapper, I don't like her and I don't call her names either.

[LanternWaste]

64. "This seems disqualifying..."

I dig how that applies to one candidate only while all others receive nuance and context.

[ehrnst]

45. "Everyone" seems angry? Combination false equivalence and whataboutism.

Nina's tweets are Nina's alone.

The "both sides do it" argument doesn't cut it.

[Autumn]

61. What argument? I posted Claude Taylor's tweet calling Sarandon a b***h.

You notice if you bother to look through the thread I'm not the only one who posted tweets NOT by Nina. Get back to me when you complain about them. A Liberal "man", and I question that, a man who worked in the Clinton White House and a Hillary surrogate called a woman a b***h for simply saying Liz used to be a Republican. That's pretty damn benign IMO. Liz would laugh about it. I notice that seems to be a thing with some who call themselves liberals anymore. They can be as misogynist as any damn Trump-supporting creep.

Some may accept that from people on our side, I will never accept it.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

One and done.

[Celerity]

203. +10000

[yardwork]

126. But you were the moderator of JPR, where it was ok to call Hillary a c**t.

[Autumn]

153. And I left after that was approved by 2 of the admins . nt

[yardwork]

154. You left a year later!

[Autumn]

155. That's odd. I wasn't there a year. nt

[ehrnst]

49. How so? (nt)

[Cha]

70. Neera is brilliant for our Dem party..

She doesn't like 3rd party jill stein pushers like SS.. so as you can see in the OP.. Nina is really pissed off@Neera.

So that automatically gives Neera cred in my book!

[Renew Deal]

84. She voted for Hillary

And that is bad according to Stein lovers.

[vsrazdem]

54. Agree.

[ehrnst]

73. How has she been a "negative force" for the Democratic party? (nt)

[vsrazdem]

75. As requested.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/neera-tanden/

[ehrnst]

82. Oh... because Bernie was very, very unhappy about a Thinkprogress video?

But SHE apparently needed to be scolded as a "corporate shill."

Gotcha...

I thought you were going to say that it was because Faiz Shakir accused her of "PUNCHING him in the CHEST." She's a tiny, tiny "corporate shill" and Faiz Shakir is a grown-ass man.

She's such a meanie! She and Maxine Waters BOTH....

[Hassin Bin Sober]

85. Because she friends and promotes Hitler fans and anti Semitic twitter trolls?

She calls people friends who call Bernie a “fake fucking Jew”

And someone who thinks Hitler did “awesome things”? What the fuck?




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FYI: Neera Tanden is friends with a Bernie-hating Hitler sympathizer. <a href="https://t.co/CsMTAUs5au">pic.twitter.com/CsMTAUs5au</a></p>— NY For Sanders #Bernie2020 (@NYforSanders) <a href="

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ehrnst]

94. Ah yes, that pinacle of credibility, David Sirota.

And "Hitler sympathizer?" That's a reach. A silly, desperate, frantic reach.



Since you went off on that tangent... let's talk about promoting embarassing twitter "friends"... how about embarassing actual campaign surrogates? Trump supporter "sympathizer" anyone?

Link to tweet

[Hassin Bin Sober]

95. Whataboutism whataboutism whataboutism

[ehrnst]

96. You're the one who brought up "twitter friends"

I guess you're regretting that now?

Link to tweet

[Cha]

173. What a *******

idiot Dr Dooley is.

[Cha]

69. Neera Tanden is a Positive Force

for the Democratic Party.

She doesn't like Stein voters and trump pusher susan Sarandon who is Not a Democrat.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Kurt V.]

114. i deleted it bc it actually had nothing to do with the op and

I'm trying to be nicer and more positive.

[Cha]

152. Good.

[George II]

50. I wonder...is Susan Sarandon still working for "Big Pharma"?

[BannonsLiver]

113. Yes, she is still doing Tylenol voice overs

With that face, voice acting is probably her best bet at this stage.

[George II]

115. I thought so. So she's working for Big Pharma and bashing others for accepting their money.....

....that takes chutzpah.

[BannonsLiver]

117. It's okay though "cuz Bernie."

[Cha]

175. Damn.. I would think she

had less hypocritical "corporate" ways to make money.

[seaglass]

58. Bernie surrounds himself with nasties. Clearly he is either on board with these attacks or has

zero control over his own campaign.

Just grotesque.

[comradebillyboy]

99. His employees do his bidding...

[Hortensis]

65. She and others in that camp knowingly helped elect Trump

and don't like being called out on it now. They thought the media would ignore these nasty details and spread their attacks on others this time as before, instead the focus is mostly on them and their actions.

Bless their "surrogate" hearts.

[NYMinute]

79. Yes .. the word on the street, communicated by the campaign was

to defeat Hillary so BS can have a second shot in 2020.

Now that it is not working out as planned, they are going off rails.

[comradebillyboy]

100. +++++++

[Thekaspervote]

176. I never heard that one.... if true how could anyone in Their right democratic mind vote for sanders

[oasis]

67. Unglued. nt

[yardwork]

68. Not a good reflection on her candidate.

[Vegas Roller]

74. Nina Turner is both stupid AND angry

A bad combination

[NYMinute]

76. The angry clown nt

[True Blue American]

78. Now you know why she lost her seat as a State Senator in Ohio.

[emulatorloo]

81. I am not sure how these twitter wars that Nina, Sirota, and Brie are caught up in

will help Bernie’s campaign. There is a whole world of voters outside of Twitter.

[Renew Deal]

83. I'm glad that someone is willing to take on Trump supporters like Turner and Sarandon.

And I'm happy that in America people can point out that Turner and Sarandon are Trump supporters.

[ehrnst]

97. "Assaulted?" You mean like Maxine Waters "assaulted" a reporter?

[ehrnst]

102. I don't take the accusation of Tanden "punching" seriously.

I haven't seen video of Shakir's encounter, but I find her much more credible, and she states that she pushed him.

Perhaps you have video? Do share.

But now that you bring it up, anger management is something of an ongoing issue with some candidates.

[ehrnst]

105. "Teh googlez" isn't a source for anything but links to people repeating things

But I'll take that as confirmation that you have no other source but hearsay, which you prefer to believe.

But as I said, you're excusing assault out of partisan interest. Which is fine, but let's you and I not pretend that isn't what's happening there.

Let's not pretend that you don't have partisan reasons to bash Neera Tanden.

https://www.britannica.com/science/projection-psychology

So, I don't particularly care about your link.

The OP is about a Sanders Campaign senior staffer. The link is relevant to your statement about anger management.

Is that clearer?

[ehrnst]

116. "Establishment" Democrats. Not your cuppa.

And even going by your charitable explanation of "shove" instead of punched, it's still assault, it was still a journalist.

Move the goalposts all you like.... You said "punched." I pointed out she said "shoved." I gave her credibility, you did not. That's what you're avoiding in your subsequent false accusation that I "support assault against journalists."

So your functioning excuse is basically, "It was only a little bit of assault against a journalist."

Attacking another straw man. Seems to be a favorite response to my posts.

And no, he wasn't actually a 'journalist' in that capacity, in that meeting. At that time he was already a campaign staffer for Senator Sanders. Teh googlez is easy enough to navigate, if you don't believe me.

[melman]

128. "At that time he was already a campaign staffer for Senator Sanders''

Not true. He was an editor at Think Progress at the time of the assault.

[ehrnst]

137. True. That is the one thing you got right about it.

I found it sad that they went after Tanden's mother in retribution, when they could have simply pressed "assault" charges.

[melman]

120. "she states that she pushed him"

That's assault.

[ehrnst]

121. Then Maxine Waters is also guilty of 'assault'

There are degrees to "pushing" and when someone inflates it to "punching" then credibility is strained.

Can you tell us what Shakir himself has said of the incident?

[melman]

122. whataboutism

Sad deflection attempt.Very sad.

[ehrnst]

136. No, it shows that your definition of "assault" could be applied to anyone pushing someone

out of the way. And your sad attempt at a non-answer shows that it hit home.

Here it why it's relevant to your declaration, if you missed it before:

There are degrees to "pushing" and when someone inflates it to "punching" then credibility is strained.

Did you find anything out about what Shakir himself has said about the episode? I haven't heard him describe it as an assault. It's not like he's shy about tweeting about injustice...

Also, what do you think we should do about Maxine committing "assault" as you put it? It was more recent, after all.

[George II]

109. Faiz Shakir is NOT a journalist, he's BS' campaign manager. He has never worked as a journalist.

[Hortensis]

138. Junker, I suspect you're going after Tanden (who?!) for

the same reasons trumpsters go after...what is it for them today, traitorous American Jews, Tlaib still, Hillary of course, the nasty prime minister of Denmark? So often, though, on both sides I don't even know who the targets are. If that's what it is (did you really always have a problem with this woman you've never met?), why not skip a few of these instructions from the leader? Stick to principles.

[Hortensis]

162. Oh, joined a "daily pile-on" of this woman just because one was on.

Well, I was wrong, and I apologize for that. I did assume some kind of, if not ideology, at least the typical group loyalty to the leader that manifests as dutiful hostility toward whatever person the leader turns it on.

[melman]

124. He was working at Think Progress at the time of the assault

As you know.

[George II]

125. Doesn't make him a "journalist", as you know.

[melman]

127. Except it does

As you certainly know.

[Celerity]

160. wrong, he was the the chief editor of (ironically) CAP's ThinkProgress website at the time (2008)

Sanders was a first term US Senator (assumed office January 3rd, 2007) and was not running for POTUS in 2008.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/tanden-sanders-.html

WASHINGTON — The bad blood started early.

In 2008, Neera Tanden, then a top aide on Hillary Clinton’s first presidential campaign, accompanied Mrs. Clinton to what was expected to be an easy interview at the Center for American Progress, the influential group founded by top Clinton aides. But Faiz Shakir, the chief editor of the think tank’s ThinkProgress website, asked Mrs. Clinton a question about the Iraq war, an issue dogging her candidacy because she had supported it.

Ms. Tanden responded by circling back to Mr. Shakir after the interview and, according to a person in the room, punching him in the chest. “I didn’t slug him, I pushed him,” a still angry Ms. Tanden corrected in a recent interview.

Ms. Tanden now leads the Center for American Progress, Mr. Shakir runs Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign and the enmity between the two camps burst into the open last weekend. Mr. Sanders, angry about a video produced by ThinkProgress that ridicules his new status as one of the millionaires he has vilified on the campaign trail, sent a scorching letter to the center’s board, accusing Ms. Tanden of “maligning my staff and supporters and belittling progressive ideas.”

The blowup is another reflection of the ideological divisions among Democrats, this time between a legacy Clinton organization and a liberal wing trying to move the party to the left to harness the energy of millennials. Mr. Sanders’s team remains convinced that the Democratic establishment worked behind the scenes to deprive him of the party’s nomination in 2016; his campaign has cast the group as beholden to corporate interests set on thwarting him in 2020.

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[lapucelle]

140. Do you have a link to substantiate your claim that Faiz Shakir was punched? N/T

[lapucelle]

142. Remember the time perpetual victim Sanders launched the manhandling charge

against Jim Acosta?

How'd that work out for Sarah?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cnn-reporter-jim-acosta-loses-white-house-access-after-clash-with-trump-2018-11-07

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/08/white-house-suspends-press-pass-cnns-jim-acosta-after-testy-exchange-with-trump/

[calguy]

129. To me...Nina Turner seems.....

STUPID

[lunamagica]

132. so, what's new

[Tarheel_Dem]

134. I'm with Neera on this one. Don't let Turner intimidate you because she looks & sounds angry.

She's all hat, and no cattle. "Don't come for me"? Really?

[highplainsdem]

135. Good for Neera Tanden!

[nini]

141. Good.. the Sander's camp's BS is finally being called out

And they are proving they can dish it out but not take it.

People need to keep calling out the Susan Sarandon type crap and throw it right back in their faces.

[betsuni]

156. "mean, hateful neo-liberals like you"

Is she twelve years old?

[Blue_true]

168. If Neera and Nina come face to face in a debate, my money is on Neera. nt

[RhodeIslandOne]

171. Didn't Nina go on TV in the weeks before the election supporting "Doctor" Stein?

She knows there's tape, right?

[Cha]

193. Yes, nina turner did.

[MustLoveBeagles]

184. Nina Turner is a terrible advocate for her candidate