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Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:40 AM Aug 2019

Isn't it a shame accomplished Governors can't get any traction in the race?

Hickenlooper and Inslee out already. Bullock couldn't make the first debate stage and barely polling at 1% which puts him in the same bracket as Marianne Williamson and below Andrew Yang. Not trying to dismiss those two but neither have ever held any office before. That should matter. It's one thing talking about ideas but it's another having to implement them and baring the consequences of them as a Governor has to each and every day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Isn't it a shame accomplished Governors can't get any traction in the race? (Original Post) Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 OP
yup, actually winning an election should be enough to get on the debate JI7 Aug 2019 #1
A crowded stage with a lot of name recognition among several. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #2
whatever I feel now will be forgotten when Hickenlooper takes Cory Gardner's senate seat. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #3
Looking on the bright side, abqtommy Aug 2019 #4
Yes. Not only do they have executive experience, but they don't risk losing a senate seat. femmedem Aug 2019 #5
Indeed it is a shame. Inslee and Hickenlooper would comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #6
Yes MFM008 Aug 2019 #7
Yes. Experience running small "nations" should count. Hortensis Aug 2019 #8
 

JI7

(89,247 posts)
1. yup, actually winning an election should be enough to get on the debate
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:42 AM
Aug 2019

stage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
2. A crowded stage with a lot of name recognition among several.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:58 AM
Aug 2019

Sadly, name recognition means so much in our popularity contest national elections.

The population at DU likely knows a good bit about most/all candidates, since we're mostly political junkies (myself included). We're not typical of the electorate at large though unfortunately.

In poll after poll you see our top tier candidates having this small band of "doesn't know the candidate", and the rest having a large percentage that hasn't even heard of them yet. Even now after 2 debates those are large percentages.

It ends up being a chicken and egg scenario.. Candidates have to have great name recognition to get coverage, but they have to have good coverage to gain the name recognition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
3. whatever I feel now will be forgotten when Hickenlooper takes Cory Gardner's senate seat.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. Looking on the bright side,
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:23 AM
Aug 2019

I see that we need accomplished governors and House and Senate members and persons to make up a competent cabinet. While the office of President is important, it's just one of many.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
5. Yes. Not only do they have executive experience, but they don't risk losing a senate seat.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:26 AM
Aug 2019

On the other hand, our senators have more experience with foreign policy and have, in some cases, demonstrated in hearing how intelligently and effectively they can expose the damage Republicans are inflicting.

It used to be easier for governors like Bill Clinton to gain support, in part because they didn't have a long history of voting records that could be twisted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
6. Indeed it is a shame. Inslee and Hickenlooper would
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:35 AM
Aug 2019

both have been good national candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
7. Yes
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:02 AM
Aug 2019

Now a number of others need to drop out.
If Inslee had the good graces to do so...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Yes. Experience running small "nations" should count.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:18 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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