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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:11 AM Aug 2019

Team Bernie: The Press Has a 'Personal Bias' Against Him and Find His Supporters 'Annoying'

Daily Beast

Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager said in an interview that the political press has a “personal bias” against the senator and that its members find his supporters “annoying,” in what is the latest volley from the Democratic-Socialist’s campaign directed at the fourth estate.

“I wish I could check at the outset of every reporter’s ‘story’ about Bernie Sanders, I would love to ask them, ‘What do you personally think of Bernie Sanders?’” campaign manager Faiz Shakir said in an interview with The Daily Beast. “For whatever reason, he gets under their skin. He draws an emotional chord in a different way that ends up impacting and affecting the bias, I think, or at least the way in which stories are crafted and written about him in particular is different.”

Shakir’s remarks don’t appear derived from any direct conversations; merely a hunch about the ideological leanings of the political press corps. But they illustrate the level of distrust with which Bernie’s team has increasingly come to view those covering their campaign.

Criticizing the media has been a rite of passage for virtually every presidential candidate, well before Donald Trump turned it into a pernicious political art form. But among the Democrats running for the White House, Sanders stands alone in his sense of aggrievement.


Coincidentally, I find his campaign team annoying...
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Team Bernie: The Press Has a 'Personal Bias' Against Him and Find His Supporters 'Annoying' (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2019 OP
Oy vey! George II Aug 2019 #1
Someone else, whose name escapes me, also thinks the press is out to get him still_one Aug 2019 #2
I.e., "fake news"? George II Aug 2019 #3
but of course still_one Aug 2019 #5
Idk what's gotten into Bernie this cycle. Quackers Aug 2019 #8
Same here. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #43
Maybe 'cause of his Jill Stein voter Cha Aug 2019 #50
he knows he's not going to win qazplm135 Aug 2019 #53
His press secretary from 2016 is working for Biden now Bradical79 Aug 2019 #55
I think our front runner has ever right to complain about "gaffe" coverage. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #14
Allow me to K&R Quackers Aug 2019 #4
Lots of people find him annoying, not just the press... comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #6
Then they're bias against him and have personal vendettas! Quackers Aug 2019 #10
+1000 nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #16
I feel the same about a few other teams. Some are annoying as fuck. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #7
Not a bad article for anyone that reads it. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #9
"merely a hunch about the ideological leanings of the political press corps" brooklynite Aug 2019 #12
It's totally about corporate influence or domination and Bernie personifies opposition to it. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #13
... NYMinute Aug 2019 #17
.... Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #18
You don't have any problem with "corporate press" so long as they are flattering Senator Sanders. ehrnst Aug 2019 #22
That's rich coming from you. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #23
How soon we forget.... ehrnst Aug 2019 #24
As you have already from post #13 up-thread, Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #25
"Corporate influence" is the sweeping generalization you use to discredit the content of any article ehrnst Aug 2019 #29
I still don't trust Politico because of its' ownership by a criminal money launderer Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #30
But you're FINE with Politico when they confirm your bias, so.... ehrnst Aug 2019 #34
I stated exactly what I was fine with, reading is fundamental. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #36
You are nothing if not predictable... ehrnst Aug 2019 #38
Thanks, I try to be consistent. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #39
I said predictable, not consistent. ehrnst Aug 2019 #41
I rarely use the sarcasm smilie. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #42
I knew that. Like I said, predictable. ehrnst Aug 2019 #45
Oh Snap! You brought receipts! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #31
So unfair, I know... ehrnst Aug 2019 #35
I loved it! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #37
.... ehrnst Aug 2019 #40
Not just the press, Bernie. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2019 #11
yup handmade34 Aug 2019 #27
The blame game has started already to explain the eventual loss nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #15
If Bernie is such a brilliant politician why cant he appeal to those in the media?? honest.abe Aug 2019 #19
The press aren't the only ones who find his supporters annoying. n/t Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #20
I suppose it is this anti-Sanders bigotry that has caused a recent report that... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #21
"Sanders stands alone in his sense of aggrievement." betsuni Aug 2019 #26
Well, that's one way to set yourself apart from the rest of the field. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #32
Great strategy.. the eternal victim. Cha Aug 2019 #28
Yay. Another professional victim. Tree-Hugger Aug 2019 #33
We already have that. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #46
Bernie is correct. I've suspected it for a while. Joe941 Aug 2019 #44
LOL. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #47
All that fake news by the lyin' media, when Bernie's just trying to make America great again! Clash City Rocker Aug 2019 #54
It's not just the press... W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #48
... NurseJackie Aug 2019 #49
So Is Theis His Pre-Excuse For Losing The Nom? Me. Aug 2019 #51
I thought that was trumps line liberal N proud Aug 2019 #52
in general, the MSM hasn't done a very good job in quite some time. see trump v Clinton Kurt V. Aug 2019 #56
Well, duh! lillypaddle Aug 2019 #57
 

still_one

(92,138 posts)
2. Someone else, whose name escapes me, also thinks the press is out to get him
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. I.e., "fake news"?
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:17 AM
Aug 2019
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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
8. Idk what's gotten into Bernie this cycle.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:25 AM
Aug 2019

He acts like his coming unhinged. I liked him in 2016 but now he completely turns me off with his actions and conspiracy theories.

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IdealsAndReal42

(89 posts)
43. Same here.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 06:42 PM
Aug 2019

He's turned into a radical far lefty one.
My political breakup with him came when he surrendered to the current political correcteness that's plaguing the Western world and pushes part of society in the arms of Trump likes, by saying "White people doesn't know what poverty is" (don't remember the proper sentence).

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
50. Maybe 'cause of his Jill Stein voter
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 05:04 PM
Aug 2019

hires? Just a thought.

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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
53. he knows he's not going to win
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 05:19 PM
Aug 2019

and that this is his last go-around.

So, that brings out the cranky.

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Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
55. His press secretary from 2016 is working for Biden now
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:00 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe she had a better hold on their public communications. I voted for him over Clinton, but have always seen an element of that sort of thing on his campaign team. They have had some real beef with various members of the press and DNC, but it too often becomes hyperbolic. Weaver in particular has always been an ass.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
14. I think our front runner has ever right to complain about "gaffe" coverage.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:56 AM
Aug 2019

You should support him in their quest for fair treatment and not compare him to Trump.


https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/biden-advisor-symone-sanders-clashes-with-cnns-brianna-keilar-over-recent-biden-gaffes-its-a-press-narrative/

Biden Advisor Symone Sanders Clashes With CNN’s Keilar Over Biden Gaffes: It’s ‘A Press Narrative’

(Simone)Sanders responded, “This is a press narrative, not a voter narrative. If you were to look at the coverage in Iowa this weekend and juxtapose the local newspapers and local television coverage to national media coverage you would have thought these reporters were at two different events.”

She said she won’t tell the press how to do their jobs, but added everyone should “elevate the conversation” and that “we cannot allow this election to devolve in a tit for tat over name-calling and ‘gaffes,’ something that does not matter. This is not something that’s registering with the American people.”
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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
4. Allow me to K&R
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:19 AM
Aug 2019

Just because others don’t view him through the same rose colored glasses, doesn’t mean they’re bias.

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comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
6. Lots of people find him annoying, not just the press...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:24 AM
Aug 2019
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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
10. Then they're bias against him and have personal vendettas!
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:26 AM
Aug 2019
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Autumn

(45,056 posts)
7. I feel the same about a few other teams. Some are annoying as fuck. nt
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:24 AM
Aug 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
9. Not a bad article for anyone that reads it.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:26 AM
Aug 2019


(snip)

Over the past several years, Sanders has expanded his internal media operation, releasing a newsletter, a podcast, and counterprogramming major media events. The senator also engaged with non-traditional media sources, appearing on Pod Save America and the Joe Rogan podcast, and posting an interview with Cardi B on the senator's Instagram.

Shakir said that although he had not discussed it with the senator, a Sanders administration would likely look skeptically at major media mergers (the senator in the past has opposed major mergers, including the scuttled Comcast-Time Warner venture). And to make journalism easier, a Sanders administration would attempt to increase the release of data from government agencies for journalists to work with.

But some of the problems that the Sanders campaign believes it faces now could be—they surmise—easily resolved should he win.

“If you have a president who gets elected despite all of those obstacles and barriers it will necessarily change how people think and view all of these policies and how they cover them,” he said. “His whole campaign is built around having that be the genesis of not only changing policy, but also a lot of media coverage and norms and values in society itself.”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-bernie-the-press-has-a-personal-bias-against-him-and-find-his-supporters-annoying




Thanks for the thread brooklynite.
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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
12. "merely a hunch about the ideological leanings of the political press corps"
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:31 AM
Aug 2019

This isn't about corporate influence; he's claiming biases on the part of the individuals covering the campaign.

Perhaps Sanders should cancel all press events and limit to just his supporters through his own media strategies?

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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
13. It's totally about corporate influence or domination and Bernie personifies opposition to it.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:40 AM
Aug 2019

Corporate influence or domination is the water they swim in, this is not to say there aren't great journalists trying to do conscientious work.

Corporate media conglomeration is a real thing and it's not good for democracy.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. You don't have any problem with "corporate press" so long as they are flattering Senator Sanders.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:58 PM
Aug 2019

That's been shown.

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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
25. As you have already from post #13 up-thread,
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:52 PM
Aug 2019


It's totally about corporate influence or domination and Bernie personifies opposition to it.

Corporate influence or domination is the water they swim in, this is not to say there aren't great journalists trying to do conscientious work.

Corporate media conglomeration is a real thing and it's not good for democracy.


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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
29. "Corporate influence" is the sweeping generalization you use to discredit the content of any article
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 03:26 PM
Aug 2019

doesn't confirm your bias. Handy that!

And the defintion of "corporate influence" seems to malleable as well when it comes to corporately influenced sources that crank out content that pleases you.

For instance you used 'Allbritton owns Politico'' to discredit Politico in toto when I cited an article that got under your skin, then you turned around and cited a Politico article that confirmed your bias the very following week, as if Allbritton never existed or was no longer the owner....

As I pointed out in the links upthread.





Wherein you reject "the source:"














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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
30. I still don't trust Politico because of its' ownership by a criminal money launderer
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:09 PM
Aug 2019

which enabled a murderous dictator to stay in power, just for starters.

The headline by Politico was at best a major mis-characterization of Bernie's point of view and at worst a blatant lie, you may not have a problem with that but I do.



Sanders walks back suggestion Bezos meddled in Washington Post coverage

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/13/bernie-sanders-bezos-washington-post-1461360



Your second link in that post was to npr, that article never made such a false assertion as Politico and was overall better balanced.



Bernie Sanders Again Attacks Amazon — This Time Pulling In 'The Washington Post'

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750800062/sanders-again-attacks-amazon-this-time-pulling-in-the-washington-post



Your third link to that post was from USA Today with a headline quoting WAPO's editor, light on substance but it never made the false assertion that Bernie "walked back" anything or mis-characterized his position.



Washington Post editor says Bernie Sanders favoring 'conspiracy theory' by linking coverage to Amazon, Jeff Bezos

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/08/13/bernie-sanders-criticizes-washington-post-coverage-baron-responds/1994986001/



Your last link in that post was just a repeat of the first link, the same exact article, why you duplicated on the same post, I have no idea? Honestly that escaped my attention until just now.



Sanders walks back suggestion Bezos meddled in Washington Post coverage

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/13/bernie-sanders-bezos-washington-post-1461360



Unlike you, I have no qualms providing the actual D.U. link to the posts in question.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=239946

Now having said, that I still don't trust the owner of Politico and never will that doesn't mean I won't use articles contributed to them from journalists that I believe to be fair and balanced, not FOX New's version either.

P.S. My post #33 comes before #38 not afterward.
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. But you're FINE with Politico when they confirm your bias, so....
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:33 PM
Aug 2019

apparently you're not THAT worried about it being owned by a "criminal money launderer."

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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
36. I stated exactly what I was fine with, reading is fundamental. n/t
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:34 PM
Aug 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. You are nothing if not predictable...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:35 PM
Aug 2019

especially with those who just refuse to CONFORM.

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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
39. Thanks, I try to be consistent.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:36 PM
Aug 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
41. I said predictable, not consistent.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:39 PM
Aug 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
42. I rarely use the sarcasm smilie.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019



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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
45. I knew that. Like I said, predictable.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 07:18 PM
Aug 2019
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
31. Oh Snap! You brought receipts!
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:16 PM
Aug 2019


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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
35. So unfair, I know...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:33 PM
Aug 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
40. ....
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:36 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:05 AM - Edit history (1)

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Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. Not just the press, Bernie.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:29 AM
Aug 2019

Sorry.

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handmade34

(22,756 posts)
27. yup
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 03:01 PM
Aug 2019

not just the press!! ...and I'm not sorry

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
15. The blame game has started already to explain the eventual loss nt
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:59 AM
Aug 2019
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honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
19. If Bernie is such a brilliant politician why cant he appeal to those in the media??
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:14 AM
Aug 2019
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Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
20. The press aren't the only ones who find his supporters annoying. n/t
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:10 PM
Aug 2019
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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
21. I suppose it is this anti-Sanders bigotry that has caused a recent report that...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:47 PM
Aug 2019

Sanders is now mumbling about Medicare For Most after a some unions schooled him on their benefits.

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betsuni

(25,472 posts)
26. "Sanders stands alone in his sense of aggrievement."
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:59 PM
Aug 2019
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
32. Well, that's one way to set yourself apart from the rest of the field.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:18 PM
Aug 2019
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Cha

(297,154 posts)
28. Great strategy.. the eternal victim.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 03:12 PM
Aug 2019
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Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
33. Yay. Another professional victim.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:21 PM
Aug 2019

Just what we need in a President.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. We already have that. nt
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:24 PM
Aug 2019
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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
44. Bernie is correct. I've suspected it for a while.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 06:45 PM
Aug 2019
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Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
54. All that fake news by the lyin' media, when Bernie's just trying to make America great again!
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 05:42 PM
Aug 2019
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W_HAMILTON

(7,862 posts)
48. It's not just the press...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:46 PM
Aug 2019

...it's former supporters like me.

Boy, do I regret ever voting for this guy...

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
51. So Is Theis His Pre-Excuse For Losing The Nom?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 05:07 PM
Aug 2019
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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
52. I thought that was trumps line
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 05:17 PM
Aug 2019


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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
56. in general, the MSM hasn't done a very good job in quite some time. see trump v Clinton
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:00 PM
Aug 2019
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lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
57. Well, duh!
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:12 PM
Aug 2019

And why might that be?

Because BS & his supporters ARE annoying?

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