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Biden: "Imagine if Obama had been assassinated"
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Here are a few facts for you all.
Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service
By Toby Harnden in Washington
8:34PM BST 03 Aug 2009
Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.
Some threats to Mr Obama, whose Secret Service codename is Renegade, have been publicised, including an alleged plot by white supremacists in Tennessee late last year to rob a gun store, shoot 88 black people, decapitate another 14 and then assassinate the first black president in American history.
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According to the book, intelligence officials received information that people associated with the Somalia-based Islamist group al-Shabaab might try to disrupt Mr Obama's inauguration in January, when the Secret Service co-ordinated at least 40,000 agents and officers from some 94 police, military and security agencies.
More than a dozen counter-sniper teams were stationed along the inauguration parade route and the criminal records of employees and hotel guests in nearby buildings were scrutinised.
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After Mr Obama was elected president, his two children Malia, 11, codenamed Radiance, and Sasha, eight, codenamed Rosebud, began receiving Secret Service protection. Mr Obama's wife Michelle is codenamed Renaissance. The Secret Service also started to protect Vice-President Joe Biden's children, grandchildren, and mother.
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The Secret Service has increasingly cut corners after it was absorbed by the new Homeland Security Department under Mr Bush. Kessler said that when Mr Biden threw the first pitch at the first Baltimore Orioles game of the 2009 season, the Secret Service did not screen any of the more than 40,000 fans, stunning his agents and the local Secret Service field office.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html
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Not One Day Went By That I Did Not Fear For Obama. Not one day. I didn't say it out loud to anyone. I was to scared to say it, think it or feel it...that is how terrified I was for him and his family.
I am disappointed in DU tonight. Joe once again is being trashed. He lived the Obama WH. He knew the threats and danger to his family and his President. He knew.
Take a moment and imagine that the hatred and a single bullet was directed at you every dayum day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)But I wasn't sure the haters would let him be. He was/is charismatic, charming, handsome -- like JFK, and that gets inadequate men envious.
I wish he and Michelle and their wonderful girls could have some peace. God knows, we owe them that.
And that terrible bomber, the one who sent bombs to both the Clintons and the Obamas-- I hope they put him away forever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)He said on election night that he would make Obama a one term President. Mitch works for Russia. We know that now.
That is a fact, dawg. Inadequate men are envious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)What amazes me... those here on DU that cant see if their chosen candidate were in first place what terrible menial things would be then thrown their way
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Thankfully he did, and he served them well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)I was screaming in my head, please get back in. Get back in the car.
Yes he served them well, as did Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)BS wanted to primary him in 2012.
I admire the courage of Obama (and Michelle) in just going about their business in the face of riled up racist nutcases carrying assault weapons. One of the greatest human beings.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)In a historical context, or in any other context. Were not allowed to talk about it. Thats the takeaway from the hysteria in the other thread. That, and a whole lot of desperate people are pining away for any little thing they think can aid their candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,780 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Between the Clinton's and Obama's, the trumpkins have overflows
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I can't tell you how much I appreciate your post and how it makes me feel.
Sadly, I usually know which candidate is being supported by what they post. I had so hoped that wouldn't happen this time around around.
You are a wonderful DUer, she, and a great example of how a supporter of your candidate should behave.
Again, thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)Thank you so much for your kind words. They mean a lot to me.
We can do this. We must do this, for our children and our future.
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I have no explanation why our country descended into apathetic madness. But well have to atone for this sin for decades to come. If we survive that long.
https://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2019/8/21/when-words-fail
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100212407157
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)Like you, I'm disappointed in DU tonight.
Yes, Joe Biden, as Obama's VP and friend, had to have been keenly aware of the threats. It's quite possible they talked about them, more than once.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)My Senator Warren is, however I will be damned if I let anyone trash him. He is a good man and deserves this countries respect. I would be proud to vote for him as President.
Thanks, highplainsman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(14,886 posts)when he was POTUS himself.
From what I've read previously, there's like an order of magnitude drop-off or more in resources devoted to ex-POTUS's compared to current POTUS, but are the nutjobs really more than an order of magnitude *less* riled-up by Trump's bile *now* than they were by Boehner/Paul/McConnell/FOXNews/Koch Bros/Rush/Beck/etc when he was POTUS? The thought makes me sick, because I'm not at all confident that the answer is yes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
certainot
(9,090 posts)in sept 2008 limnbaugh made up a silly pretext - that obama should fire a staffer - to say 'obama's head needs to roll"
the local blowhard says hey maybe the 'purge' concept isn't so bad in reference to sanctuary cities.
limbaugh started around inauguration selling the bs that the obamas got a place near DC so they could oversee the 'deep state coup' and has been obstructing and polluting the mueller probe and jury pool sever since
it's been going on for 30 fucking years from a 1500 radio station monopoly that is now getting input from the kremlin and democrats continue to do nothing
this situation is really fucking stupid
democrats cannot collectively say they're getting the back of one of our best presidents. really fucking stupid, and i regularly have people tell me talk radio is irrelevant
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brer cat
(24,519 posts)This is the correct perspective, not the trashing taking place elsewhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patphil
(6,144 posts)Joe's not my first choice, but he'd make a fine president and I will support him completely if he wins the nomination.
I see no point in trashing any of the Democratic candidates. It's a matter for the primaries. Let's see who wins next year.
Patrick Phillips
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)My Senator is.
However will support any Democratic nominee 1000%
Thank you Patrick Phillips.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
murielm99
(30,712 posts)I looked back at the thread that was so critical of Joe, and I was appalled by the deliberate misunderstanding and outright hate directed at Joe by some DU members. Joe is not my first choice, but he may be the nominee. I understand what Joe was saying.
I worried about President Obama every day of his Presidency. I never said anything about it outside of my household.
I worry about him now, with all the hate trump is bringing to the surface. I worry about the Clintons, too. The waves of hate being directed at all of them are searing.
I was a senior in college when MLK and RFK were assassinated. Bobby had just visited my college in Valparaiso, Indiana. He quoted Camus about hungry children. He went on to Indianapolis. We all know what happened when he got there.
A month later, in the waning days of my semester, when I was finishing my finals, Bobby went to California, and he was shot. He died just before I took my last final.
I was a wreck when I got home. My parents were Democratic election judges. The Democratic precinct committeeman lived next door. We spoke. He handed me a stack of literature for local Democratic candidates. He told me to find a friend, to go out and canvas the precinct. We mourn, and then we go on, he said, or else they win. His attitude did help me, but I know the horror and grief Joe was referencing. I lived with it myself.
I don't know how some people can go so low just to trash a candidate who is not their first choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)to have Biden tell people to imagine the possibility, and what a large impact it could have.
Other than the Secret Service and others whose job it is to keep the family safe, I'd rather people not be encouraged to imagine the assassination of Obama (except those charged with protecting his life.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,538 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LW1977
(1,231 posts)Just disgusting!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Just a thought.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)I was beside myself this morning reading some articles and quotes .. (some in here).. trying to make political hay.. or saying it was another gaffe.. not understanding for a moment what the VP was saying.. there is such a thing as purposeful ignorance.. and I am chalking it up to that.. we talked about it here in DU.. scared spitless sometimes for President Obama and his family.. and some of us have lived through that time.. wanting to win a political moment without stopping to think or read for comprehension what the VP was trying to tell people.. is beyond sad.. and my opinion of some people has been permanently altered because of this..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrispyQ
(36,413 posts)I was a kid back in the 60s & I remember all three assassinations. They shook my world. I remember a story about someone getting over the White House fence while Obama was president & my mind went right to that dark place. So yeah, it was jarring, what Biden said, but those of us who lived through it have never forgotten.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)With the technology they have now, I felt actually like Obama was pretty safe, in spite of being the subject of the most threats (no surprise there).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,538 posts)Some days I really wonder why I come to DU. (Then I read my friends' posts and know why I'm still here.)
But gods, the stupidity that sometimes runs rampant here. So if the hyper-partisans manage to get rid of Joe, who will be next? And the media? They're going after him like HRC -- who will they destroy next? The media is callous -- hey, we have lots of Dem candidates, right? But the hyper-partisans are just astoundingly shortsighted and easy to manipulate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
roscoeroscoe
(1,369 posts)Go fightin' Joe!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IndyOp
(15,502 posts)bravest people on the planet. The fact that he made miracles happen while in office - I cant fathom how he did what he did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden