Biden tells supporters: 'I'm not going nuts'

[melman]

Former Vice President Joe Biden told New Hampshire supporters that he was "not going nuts" after he momentarily forgot what building he was speaking at on Dartmouth College's campus last week.

“I want to be clear, I’m not going nuts,” Biden said on Friday. “I’m not sure whether it was the medical school or where the hell I spoke. But it was on the campus.”

The former vice president's clarification came before he mistakenly praised Vermont when asked about his impression of Keene, N.H., which is in close proximity to Vermont, on Saturday.

"I love this place. Look, what’s not to like about Vermont in terms of the beauty of it? And what a neat town. This is like a scenic, beautiful town. The mayor's been a good guy. Everybody has been really friendly. I like Keene a lot," Biden said.



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/458817-biden-tells-supporters-after-flub-im-not-going-nuts

[stonecutter357]

1. good let's go Joe !

[George II]

13. What's surprising about this is not what Biden says, but the number of "Democrats" who are...

....downright gleeful every time he's no 100% perfect.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. Yep

[Lordquinton]

59. Don't you have a thread rtight now

bashing bernie for being a little cranky?

What is it when someone says one thing and does the opposite?

[melman]

61. Yes

and one the other day comparing Bernie to Trump.

[George II]

65. As a matter of fact, that one did NOT compare BS to trump. Read it again, okay?

[George II]

69. Not at all. It's a news article about a visit by BS to a San Francisco restaurant, and....

....an interview of the owner.

I don't know what your last question refers to, can you be more explicit?

[melman]

62. Who put you in charge of deciding who's a Democrat and who's not?

[George II]

66. Where did I decide who is a Democrat and who is not?

[melman]

67. The quotes you put around the word Democrats

These are meant to imply some (unnamed) people aren't actually Democrats. Obviously.


So with that out of the way I'll ask again. Who put you in charge of deciding that?

[George II]

68. Your interpretation "meant to imply"!

[melman]

70. Yeah

Just as I thought. You can throw out insinuations but not back them up.

[George II]

71. What are you insinuating?

[George II]

2. bwahahahahaha!!!!

[melman]

5. Thanks so much for this thoughtful contribution

Much appreciated.

[George II]

6. De nada.

[jalan48]

3. That's comforting.

[ananda]

4. I love Biden and support him!

But .. I think maybe it's Warren's time to be president.

[True Dough]

29. More people are thinking like you

just look at the candidates' support among DUers. Warren is my second choice. She's a force!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. I could live with that!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Thekaspervote]

7. Go Joe!! We've got your back

[Autumn]

8. That's good to know. I think.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. .

[cwydro]

10. If I had to go downtown in the nearest big city to some municipal building, I doubt I'd remember

which one the next week.

Same with visiting some college I’m not familiar with...

[Autumn]

11. I get lost downtown too because I've gone there 3 times in 15 years. But when I fly to Texas

I know I'm not in Oklahoma.

[cwydro]

15. Lol.

Indeed.

Still, that particular goof doesn’t shock me like some of these others.

[treestar]

16. Much larger states that aren't shaped so much alike

and you've probably never been on the road in so many states for such a long time either.

[Autumn]

19. And you would be wrong in that assumption. nt

[treestar]

20. Are you with a rock band?

As Jackson Browne sang: These towns all look the same.

[Autumn]

21. Biden had four campaign stops including Hanover and Keene in two days

either his aides are not serving him well and informing him of where he is before he goes on stage or that's too exhausting a schedule for him

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/joe-biden-touts-electability-amid-verbal-stumbles-in-important-new-hampshire-idUSKCN1VF0VH

Biden crisscrossed the state on four different campaign stops from Hanover to Keene on Friday and Saturday before attending a fundraiser in New York City. The trip was vintage Biden: folksy anecdotes, lots of handshakes and a few gaffes.

The Biden crowds, relatively small and older, said they are exhausted by Trump. They see Biden as a unifier whose experience can bring some much-needed normalcy to the White House, and the former vice president’s largest applause lines came when preaching that unity.

Hanover to Keene is 66 miles. I don't know where the other 2 stops were.

[George II]

22. Have you ever flown to several states in one week, spending one night in each?

[Autumn]

25. Biden had four campaign stops in 2 days in not a very large state.

Biden crisscrossed the state on four different campaign stops from Hanover to Keene on Friday and Saturday before attending a fundraiser in New York City. The trip was vintage Biden: folksy anecdotes, lots of handshakes and a few gaffes.

The Biden crowds, relatively small and older, said they are exhausted by Trump. They see Biden as a unifier whose experience can bring some much-needed normalcy to the White House, and the former vice president’s largest applause lines came when preaching that unity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/joe-biden-touts-electability-amid-verbal-stumbles-in-important-new-hampshire-idUSKCN1VF0VH

Two stops were about 60 miles apart

[Hekate]

30. I can tell you are really concerned by the way you keep track of these things

[Autumn]

42. No big deal and no keeping track needed. I read the the link that I posted.

I've been there. It a pretty small state.

[George II]

33. So? That hasn't been his entire schedule for August....

Again, have you ever flown to several states in one week, spending one night in each?

[Autumn]

43. Again George, it was 4 stops in 2 days, in a small state. No one is talking about several states

in one week. Please, don't try to pull out the straw man fallacy. We are talking about Biden in NH. It's not that difficult to understand. It would not be difficult for his aides to let him know where he is at.

[George II]

45. In what way is what I said a "straw man fallacy"?

He was in NH in the midst of traveling from state to state for a couple of months - Iowa, South Carolina, Detroit, Iowa, South Carolina, Nevada Iowa, New York, New Hampshire, probably stopping back home in Delaware on free nights.

There even was a comedy movie made about things like this years ago.

Bottom line, I guess you DO subscribe to the premise that he IS "nuts", eh?

[Autumn]

46. I don't consider people who get confused or have memory lapses to be "nuts".

It happens If they become frequent it can signal a problem. I know that for a fact, I watched what happened to my Father when he began developing Alzheimer's.

[George II]

47. Again, in what way is what I said a "straw man fallacy"?

[Autumn]

48. Whatever George. Not interested in going where you want to go. My post was about his

weekend in NH, not his campaign events in August flying from state to state.

[George II]

49. Ah, so you said something you're unwilling to explain. Got it. Yes, YOU are talking...

..about his weekend in New Hampshire, totally ignoring the fact that in the days prior to that weekend he was in three other states, and one twice.

I curious what you had to say about Barack Obama talking about visiting "57 states".

[Autumn]

50. I don't have to explain anything to you George. One has nothing to do with the other.

[George II]

51. So you say something that isn't true and then say you don't have to explain it. I've been on....

....this merry-go-round with you before.

[Autumn]

52. What did I say that was a lie George? I lied about nothing. Your whole problem is you

can't prove any of what I posted wrong and you can't come up with anything to excuse it. So you twist and turn to slam me with your petty accusation that I lied. Sad. My posts are there for all to see, I lied about nothing.

[George II]

53. I didn't say that you "lied", I said that you said something that is untrue. BIG difference.

So where's the straw man fallacy that you refuse to elaborate on?

[Autumn]

54. Not a BIG difference at all. Everything I posted is true. You just don't like what I said

We are done here, not gonna play your game.

[George II]

55. Okay, then what is the so-called straw man you accused me of? Can't explain it so it's untrue.

[bluedovepdx]

12. NH

I'm quite sure I would remember the state I was in. Biden's mental lapses... becoming a common thing... aren't insignificant. It's serious stuff. We want a mentally sharp person to be president.

[Hekate]

31. So concerned. It must be catching.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. There. That settles that.

n/t

[Princetonian]

17. Joe is irreverent and can poke fun at himself. Pretty adorable, such a normal guy.

[USALiberal]

35. Nice spin nt

[Princetonian]

56. Not spin. I love guys who are funny and self-deprecating.

[Thekaspervote]

39. I traveled for work for a couple of years. 40+ hrs a week nothing real high stress at the time

There were mornings I would wake up and have to stop and think about where I was at. Had a good friend that used to fly for Continental, he was the same way

It happens

[Princetonian]

57. Exactly. People here need to get a life -- ragging on Joe poking fun at himself is sad and pathetic.

It's funny because people in the read world who don't have an AX - get it? - to grind actually think Joe is being funny and think better of him for demonstrating his humility. That's a big reason regular Joes and Janes like our Joe: he is normal not dour, cranky, rude, or always "on".

I mean, seriously, is this all they've got?

[Lucid Dreamer]

18. Simple solution -

Assign a staff member to get into every crowd and hold up a big sign that says

WELCOME TO
KENTUCKY
JOE!

The staff member will have to change the sign each time they cross a dotted line on the map.

[highplainsdem]

23. No, he isn't. But if he is going nuts, so are Warren and O'Rourke

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/458705-biden-mistakes-new-hampshire-for-vermont-during-campaign-stop

Other candidates have tripped up on the campaign trail while mentioning where they are in recent weeks, including former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas), who reportedly mixed up South Carolina and North Carolina during a campaign stop in Greensboro in April, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who misspoke while referring to California and Washington D.C. earlier this week.

and so are all the countless other candidates -- and all the people who do a lot of traveling -- who sometimes make similar gaffes.

[George II]

24. What some don't want to accept is that he JOKED that he's not going nuts.

[highplainsdem]

26. True. The people going nuts are the ones overreacting to trivial gaffes.

[JI7]

27. they have an agenda they are trying to push

[Hekate]

32. They certainly do

[Thekaspervote]

40. Humor is lost on a lot of people... sad

[LanternWaste]

44. Biden's trolling them as little bit. Their frustration at being trolled is palpable.

A half-cup of "I'm concerned..." here, a tablespoon or two of "this doesn't look good" there and a generous topping of implied internet diagnoses. It's an easy, convenient, one-skillet meal; but it simply has no nutritional value.

[Tipperary]

34. Meh.

I really do not see that as a thing. I have friends who say things like “I swear I’m not losing it!” when they forget that the glasses they were looking for were on their head the whole time. Of course, I am more likely to say “god I AM losing it” when I lose my car keys twice in an hour.

[Freethinker65]

36. Thank you Chicago!...er...um...Milwaukee...er...um... Cleveland?!

It happens.

Right now Biden is not my first choice, but constantly fitting in your changing location with your basic formatted stump speech can trip up even the most seasoned politician. I understand while it is preferable for each stop to be unique and be tailored to a specific audience, that in doing so mistakes will happen.
Use a TelePrompTer and you are accused of being not genuine and just reading a script, misspeak on video and you never hear the end of it.

Of course, Trump can just outright lie and make shit up and get away with it. Trump was able to turn his outlandish lies into free media attention/exposure during his last campaign. It served him well.

[Blue_true]

37. When I listen to Joe, I get the feeling that he should talk slower

He seems to talk about issues and places and people really fast and off the cuff, that is where his gaffs happen, IMO.

[treestar]

41. off the cuff

exactly, and would be accused of being wooden if he were over prepared.

[Blue_true]

60. You make a good point. Unfortunately he gets hit either way, while Trump gets away with murder. nt

[Sugarcoated]

58. Good news, love it!

[Politicub]

63. This was an honest mistake and shame on the people who are piling on.

[Steelrolled]

64. Great information.

I would like every candidate to make a statement about whether they are, or are not, going nuts