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highplainsdem

(48,916 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:48 AM Aug 2019

CNN Forecaster Craps All Over Poll Showing Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren Leading Biden

From Mediaite, with video at the link:


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-forecaster-craps-all-over-poll-showing-bernie-sanders-and-elizabeth-warren-leading-biden/


On Tuesday morning’s edition of CNN’s New Day, hosts Alisyn Camerota and John Berman asked an overly-caffeinated Enten to analyze a recent Monmouth University poll that showed Warren and Sanders at 20 percent nationally, one point ahead of Biden at 19 percent.

“What does it mean? What does it mean?” Enten said, noting correctly that “This poll seems to be getting so much press.”

-snip-

Pointing to a graphic comparing the four polls, Enten said “CNN poll, which was done at the same time as this Monmouth poll, people, same freaking time! Twenty-nine percent for Biden, Fox News taken only about a week before, 31 percent for Biden, Quinnipiac University, done earlier this month, 32.”

“And then you have 19 here,” Enten said, indicating the Monmouth poll. “That, my friends, is the definition of an outlier.”

Enten also compared polling averages before and after the debates, concluding there was no “enthusiasm gap” for Biden, and partially dismissed the large crowds that Warren has been drawing.

“A very impressive crowd of 15,000 in Seattle on Sunday, but you have to put this into context,” Enten said, adding “Washington, where Seattle is, to my understanding of the U.S. map, Bernie Sanders won those caucuses 73% to 27%. It’s not a representative state in terms of the ideological spectrum, it’s significantly more to left on the Democratic side.”
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philf99

(238 posts)
1. It's way too early
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:53 AM
Aug 2019

To take any of these polls seriously IMHO.

Relax and let's see what happens as we get closer to people actually casting votes

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highplainsdem

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2. We're still months from the first primaries, but they've been polling for 10 months with Biden
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

leading the entire time. Maintaining a lead for that long, with two dozen rivals and a few very strong challengers, is impressive.

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brush

(53,743 posts)
4. Right. The first poll that will really mean something is the South Carolina primary.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:10 PM
Aug 2019

Iowa and NH have nearly all white participants so they don't really reflect the constituency of the whole Democratic Party.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
8. Yes, true, but it is fun and a nice horserace to see who is where going into the fall.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:30 PM
Aug 2019
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George II

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3. It's not just Enten, it's just about every experience poll analyst. Nate Silver called the poll...
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:04 PM
Aug 2019

...an "outlier" on twitter this morning (or maybe last night)

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highplainsdem

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5. Democratic pollster John Anzalone and Republican pollster Logan Dobson were unimpressed, too:
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 12:25 PM
Aug 2019
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TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
11. Nate Silver has jumped the shark
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:07 AM
Aug 2019

Furthermore he has been relegated to Nate Bronze.

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Princetonian

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7. Monmouth should be downgraded to a "D" rated poll - for "dumbass" poll.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 01:52 PM
Aug 2019
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brooklynite

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9. ...and deservedly so
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:33 PM
Aug 2019

The poll WAS an outlier; tomorrow's polls will confirm that.

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Cha

(296,848 posts)
10. But the m$$$media were soooooo
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:57 PM
Aug 2019

excited!

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Tarheel_Dem

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12. I'm still surprised that they even released those results, especially with such a small sample size.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:49 AM
Aug 2019
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