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highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:10 AM Aug 2019

Monmouth's head pollster told NYT he hadn't met any IA voters excited about voting for Biden

I'd forgotten about that when the national Monmouth poll showing Biden trailing Sanders and Warren -- and obviously an outlier -- came out a couple of days ago.

This is one of the articles referring to the NYT story last week about Biden's alleged "enthusiasm gap":

https://newrepublic.com/article/154835/biden-bubble-burst


There’s a growing sense that Biden is something of a starter nominee, a candidate that voters can glom onto while they search for someone who better suits their values. “I did not meet one Biden voter who was in any way, shape or form excited about voting for Biden,” Patrick Murray, who heads the Monmouth University Polling Institute (which recently released a poll giving Biden a significant lead in Iowa) told The New York Times. “They feel that they have to vote for Joe Biden as the centrist candidate, to keep somebody from the left who they feel is unelectable from getting the nomination.”



Emphasis added.

I still feel it's probably most likely that Monmouth just screwed up the way all pollsters occasionally make mistakes, in coming up with poll results so different from what other pollsters were finding.

But the very, shall we say, ENTHUSIASTIC way Murray describes what he says is a lack of enthusiasm among Biden supporters

I did not meet one Biden voter who was in any way, shape or form excited about voting for Biden

has me wondering now whether he might have been so happy with the outlier results from his last poll that he might not have considered whether it was simply a badly done poll.

And I'm still amazed that he spent any time in Iowa and met any Biden voters without meeting even ONE who was "in any way, shape or form" excited about voting for Biden.
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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
1. Wow - now things are adding up... SMH
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:13 AM
Aug 2019
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still_one

(92,116 posts)
2. If a head pollster of a polling organization makes an anecdotal comment like that, he should have
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

his ass fired

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Yes. And Monmouth's rating downgraded.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:57 AM
Aug 2019

As said, this is damning: "I did not meet one Biden voter who was in any way, shape or form excited about voting for Biden." Not a chance that could reflect reality there, because it doesn't even here in Georgia.

Also trying to smear Biden as "centrist."

A guest anchor this morning on First Look didn't just try to portray Biden as a centrist but spoke as if a big bloc of Democrats were "centrists." The usual RW and antiDemocrat-left synergy at work -- hit 'em from both sides with the same lies.

The Axios analyst wouldn't have it, though, and said flat out there were no centrists in the race. He meant among the viable candidates, of course. They're all solid liberal Democrats, and that's WHY they're viable.

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JI7

(89,244 posts)
3. it comes off as just trying too hard
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:18 AM
Aug 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
4. ???? Do you mean my OP, or what Murray said?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:20 AM
Aug 2019
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JI7

(89,244 posts)
5. what murray said and the poll
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:21 AM
Aug 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
7. Thanks for explaining. I agree Murray went way too far in that statement. He could have just
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:26 AM
Aug 2019

said he thought there was an enthusiasm gap without going overboard about it.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
11. Hmm... it's almost as if he was setting up the press for the results of the outlier poll.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:08 AM
Aug 2019
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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
8. The poll was not just an outlier
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019

It was purposely released to advance someone's agenda.

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
10. As an expert, Murray must have known, beforehand, that it was an outlier but released it anyway...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:07 AM
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,229 posts)
12. I think I've seen the phrase "confirmation bias" being flung about today. Hmmmm.....
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:26 PM
Aug 2019
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