Maybe we could just have a "Joes gaffes" forum.

[Funtatlaguy]

They seem to REALLY bother a lot of people on here.
I’m not one of those people even though I don’t want him as our nominee.
I want a woman.
But I still love Joe and think his heart is good.

Anyway, instead of having so many (almost daily) posts discussing what the MSM is talking about with Joe getting this detail wrong or that detail wrong, just have a forum dedicated to it.
You know there will be a lot more.
Joe himself has said he is a gaffe machine.
He’s a storyteller that doesn’t care about exact details, it’s about the moral of the story.
I can relate because I tell stories the same way.
I love Joes heart. I love his resilience from so much tragedy.
I love how he always had Obama’s back.

I wish he was a little sharper mentally. But he’s 76.
This isn’t going to get better.
If you think it’s disqualifying for him to get the nomination, that’s fair.
But, I don’t. He would be a rambling President but an honest one. That’s more important to me.

Anyway, what about a forum just dedicated to this subject.

[katmondoo]

1. Also he would surround himself with really competent people. I still feel safer with Biden

returning America back to it's ideals. After, we can become more progressive.

[Funtatlaguy]

3. Absolutely - it would TRULY be "the best people" unlike Trumps swamp creatures.

[Cha]

23. trump's sewer rats from the

666 circle of hell.

[cwydro]

31. I agree.

I really think he needs to replace some advisors.

He’s a strong second choice for me, but he needs to sharpen his game up a bit.

[JaneQPublic]

2. I'm not sure it's so much about age as just the way he's always expressed himself.

Joe has always been a loquacious, garrulous, long-winded kind of guy who focuses more on conveying the overall emotion of the story he's telling so as to connect with people and less on self-editing and filtering the finer details to perfection.

[Funtatlaguy]

4. Good point. He's like your favorite Uncle that really loves you.

[NoMoreRepugs]

6. Well said JQP.

[StarfishSaver]

37. I think it comes from stubbornness and lack of discipline

He's always been very fluid and said just what he wanted and when it came out garbled, he just laughed it off and people said, "that's just Joe being Joe." He's been able to get away with it for years when other politicians couldn't get away with such imprecise and often plain goofy and confusing language. But it shows a certain lack of discipline - a thoughtfulness about how they communicate and effort to do it carefully - that most other politicians and people in public life employ.

Can you imagine if Obama had put his foot on his mouth the way Joe does? It wouldn't have been seen as charming or as "that's just Barack being Barack." He would have been seen as inarticulate lacking in depth. Of course, if he had been as gaffe-prone as Biden, we wouldn't be talking much about him because he'd still be in Illinois, since he'd never have been elected to the U.S. Senate, much less the presidency.

Now that the stakes are higher, Biden's staff is trying to get him to be more disciplined with his language, but he's apparently refusing. I think this stems from a certain stubbornness and a "I'm gonna do it my way" attitude. Some find that charming and real. But time will tell whether he's right that people won't mind Joe just being Joe or whether it will hurt him in the long run.

[Tipperary]

44. I think this is very true.

I hope his staff gets ahold of this or it’s going to end badly.

[empedocles]

5. How about a Dem gaffes forum for all of them. 'Thats more fair'

[BlueMTexpat]

9. It would certainly be more

equal opportunity.

We all make gaffes and our candidates are only human. So yes, I could support this idea.

Gaffes are not a reason for me NOT to support a candidate. But they also don't help to enlist my support, especially if they are frequent and ongoing.

[empedocles]

14. Would limit free rides by some.

[LanternWaste]

13. Objectively comparing and contrasting the number of gaffes by candidate...

would certainly be inconvenient to the narratives and alleged concerns being pushed.

[Laurian]

7. I've used the ignore feature to deal with this.

I’ve been here since the election of W and think I’ve only used that feature once or twice, but this harping on Joe was wearing me out.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. I feel you. It's daily.

[Turin_C3PO]

27. We have a few posters here, not naming names,

whose sole purpose is shitting on Biden, instead of talking up their candidate of choice. To be fair, there’s also a few who all they do is pick on Sanders.

[demmiblue]

39. I have Sanders and Biden on Auto-trash by Keyword.

I think it is probably time to include Bernie and Joe.

No offense to either... but the drama llamas, moths and sea lions are tiring. I do have most of them on ignore, as well. One has over 200,000 posts, and I swear half of them are about Sanders. The inability to let things go is almost pathological.

Any of our candidates are far, far superior to Trump. We are lucky to have such a wonderful bench!

[Cha]

24. And, ye olde

Trash Can!

[Otto Lidenbrock]

10. This is what irritates me a lot of the media reporting

News reporters are magically able to unearth private letters he wrote when Gerald Ford was President, which have been locked up in boxes of Senatorial archives for many years, but a video I unearthed on C-Span, now FREELY AVAILABLE on youtube has received no recognition.

It took me 10 minutes to find that video. Are the media purposefully ignoring it? It's rather relevant given Biden had his record of race under forensic examination yet this video has just 600 views in effectively 4 months.

[emmaverybo]

28. Such a great video. Whether or not Biden is your preferred candidate, this clip is a treat for

people who like to see power squirm when truth talks to it. Joe does the talking with uncommon finesse and a seemingly effortless authenticity.

Subject is South Africa apartheid.

[crazytown]

43. Wow

[blm]

11. It's a tired old attack from lazy media

They have lazy narratives for all of our candidates

[IdealsAndReal42]

19. Unfortunately it still work.

The whole MSM is impatiently waiting for the next gaffe.
Those stories are literally invading the campaign space.

[redstateblues]

12. When I see a Biden's gaffe post now, I move on. It's like groundhog day

[procon]

15. Easier than discussing the issues or his actual

governing principles. I dispare for our side when we more resemble the girls locker room at a middle school Soccer game than politically savvy adults.

The pettiness aimed at undermining Biden doesn't advance his opponents, but it sure reads like a headline C&P from Fox News. So as an undecided I get news coverage on Biden along with the customary pile on about his imperfect homilies, but damned little info on any other candidate.

[BannonsLiver]

16. There's a real nastiness to the attempts to make it into a thing.

It comes from a very dark place in people. Kind of sad and disturbing to observe, TBH but anymore our politics tend to bring out the worst in folks. Those on the left are not immune to that at all.

[JI7]

17. yes, it's exactly it. the so called left also went after Hillary

on her health that the right wing was pushing.

[IdealsAndReal42]

18. Going after her health was absurd and shameful

Are those people unaware they'll also will age as time goes by?

[Turin_C3PO]

22. You shoulda seen this place in 2008 and 2016.

Far more hateful rhetoric than this cycle, so far.

On edit: I was here from 2003 with a different username.

[Cha]

25. I've noticed.

[Gothmog]

20. Biden got the story correct according to the young solider who recieved the medal

BTW, the opinion of the person who was the subject of the last so-called gaffe carries a great deal of weight with me

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Cha]

26. Thank you, Goth.. Maybe you could make that

an OP?!

Shine some Light on it!

Link to tweet

[trueblue2007]

21. ARE YOU BEING MEAN ???

this is getting sooooooooooooooooo ugly!!! Stop it please.

[Celerity]

29. this is my favourite one (totally harmless and makes me laugh every time) nothing sinister at all

Biden assures voters Obama "has a big stick"

I am also getting sick and tired of the relentless media droning on each and every minor thing. They are obsessed.

[Jirel]

30. Just no.

The gaffes are serious business. We can’t hide from them - they belong front and center in choosing a candidate. Are they annoying and painful? Yes. That’s why we need to talk about them. They will be front and center if he is nominated, in the general election. We can not hide from them.

[Demsrule86]

36. Bullshit...just another post tearing down Joe...and no we do not need to talk about them...bullshit

media creations...pretty soon breathing will be a gaffe...nice backdoor nasty post...not fooling anyone.

[gldstwmn]

42. Thank you. It needs to be considered.

He isn't going to get anyone new off the sofa. Trump's horribleness might though.

[myohmy2]

32. "Maybe we could just have a "Joes gaffes" forum."

...okay...

...the bottom line: we shouldn't have to keep explaining what our candidate says or means...gaffEs are a major distraction...

...the trumpkins will have a field day with Joe's gaffEs…

...sorry, but you know it's true...

[Demsrule86]

35. No I don't actually... they will be unsuccessful just like the media is now.

[Gothmog]

33. And they worry about Biden's verbal gaffes? The president is a category 5 disaster

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

34. How about no...why would we ever do such a thing? Replay the media's bullshit...here.

[Gothmog]

38. "Voters just don't care... they think that he's an honorable man..."

Link to tweet

[BlueMississippi]

40. They probably have a whole section on them on a breakaway site nt

[gldstwmn]

41. His warm fuzzies for NRA members is

A problem for me along with a laundry list of other things.

[Gothmog]

45. These alleged gaffes are eye-rolling examples of the absurdity of the press or the woke left

Link to tweet

To many Biden supporters, who polls consistently show are older, more working class, and more culturally conservative, these alleged gaffes are eye-rolling examples of the absurdity of the press or the woke left. They think the young activist in eastern Iowa should toughen up, that the throwaway line to the 13-year-old is endearing, and that Biden’s lack of precision when he speaks, about scooters or so many other things, is a sign of his authenticity. And they grouse that Biden is held to a standard President Donald Trump is not.

How Democrats see such episodes is at the heart of the Democratic primary. One side views these sorts of typical Biden campaign-trail moments as evidence of a politician well past his prime — casually sexist in a way that might have gone unremarked in, say, 1973 when he first joined the Senate. His supporters see them as good examples of why he’s the lovable Democrat best-suited to beat Trump. What is clear is that the critics, who are louder and more visible online and on cable TV, have had absolutely no impact on changing Biden’s status as the steady front-runner in the race.

This woke-working class divide is at the heart of the most salient fact about the Democratic primaries: Nothing has damaged Biden. Biden entered the race with about 30 percent support nationally and he has that same 30 percent today.