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Uncle Joe

(58,336 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:01 PM Aug 2019

Sanders Campaign Demands Washington Post Retract 'Fact Check' of Medical Bankruptcies Remarks



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Since Wednesday, the Post has come under fire for publishing a critical review of Sanders' citation of a peer-reviewed editorial that ran in the American Journal of Public Health (AJPH). Sanders had said earlier this month that "500,000 people go bankrupt every year because they cannot pay their outrageous medical bills" and "500,000 Americans will go bankrupt this year from medical bills."

The Post's Salvador Rizzo gave Sanders' recent remarks "three Pinocchios," a designation the newspaper uses for statements that have a "significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions." Despite handing down that rating, Rizzo noted that when Dr. David U. Himmelstein—the editorial's lead author and a public health professor at City University of New York's Hunter College—was asked by the Post "whether Sanders was quoting his study accurately, he said yes."

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In the op-ed, they provided some details about the AJPH study and noted that "dozens of politicians and publications (including the Post itself!) have cited that study as a reliable source." Regarding the statistic at the center of the ongoing controversy, Himmelstein and Woolhandler wrote that "even the 530,000 figure is an underestimate of the number of people affected by medical bankruptcies."

"Most bankruptcies involve more than one person—an average of about 2.7 people, often including a spouse/partner and children," they explained. "That means that the 750,000 bankruptcies last year involved more than 2 million people. And even if you use the most restrictive definition of medical bankruptcy—i.e. including only debtors who 'very much' agreed that medical bills were a cause of their bankruptcy—Sanders' 500,000 figure is, if anything, too low. The right number is more like three quarters of a million."

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/31/sanders-campaign-demands-washington-post-retract-fact-check-medical-bankruptcies

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Sanders Campaign Demands Washington Post Retract 'Fact Check' of Medical Bankruptcies Remarks (Original Post) Uncle Joe Aug 2019 OP
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #1
Wouldn't it behoove the campaign to provide specific, not estimated or assumed, numbers to prove... George II Aug 2019 #2
Indeed.. kind of like let's see the tax returns Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #4
Supporters need to feel like there is still life in the campaign Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #8
commondreams...nt SidDithers Aug 2019 #3
Washington Post...nt. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #6
That was cool how Bernie got Bezos to raise his wages to $15 bahrbearian Aug 2019 #10
No he didn't. George II Aug 2019 #11
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #13
To date no one has been able to demonstrate that what the Washington Post said wasn't true. George II Aug 2019 #12
commondreams Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #5
Washington Post Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #7
Bezos, Man of the People bahrbearian Aug 2019 #9

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George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Wouldn't it behoove the campaign to provide specific, not estimated or assumed, numbers to prove...
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:30 PM
Aug 2019

...the Washington Post was wrong?

Lacking that, it's just a "he say, they said".

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Thekaspervote

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4. Indeed.. kind of like let's see the tax returns
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:12 PM
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Vegas Roller

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8. Supporters need to feel like there is still life in the campaign
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:20 PM
Aug 2019

So a heartbeat here and there .. a sporadic gasp ... gets those donations flowing.

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Uncle Joe

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6. Washington Post...nt.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:19 PM
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bahrbearian

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10. That was cool how Bernie got Bezos to raise his wages to $15
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

Bezos will never forgive him for that and he gets a lot of support.

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George II

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12. To date no one has been able to demonstrate that what the Washington Post said wasn't true.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:04 PM
Aug 2019
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bahrbearian

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9. Bezos, Man of the People
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:55 PM
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