Joe Biden Said He Advised Hillary Clinton's Team Not To Debate With Donald Trump Over The

[Hassin Bin Sober]

Joe Biden Said He Advised Hillary Clinton’s Team Not To Debate With Donald Trump Over The "Access Hollywood" Tape

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/joe-biden-hillary-clinton-trump-access-hollywood


“Is he suggesting Hillary's reaction to the Access Hollywood tape should have been, ‘Oh, nevermind?’ That is a pretty Mad Men-era mentality," a former Clinton aide said.


NEW CASTLE, New Hampshire — Joe Biden said Friday that he advised Hillary Clinton’s campaign in 2016 to “not get into the debate” with Donald Trump over his comments about groping women from an Access Hollywood recording that surfaced a month before the election.

The remarks came during a long response Biden offered to a supporter who wondered how the former vice president would debate Trump without coming off as too antagonistic.

[enough]

1. The question is odd. Is there something wrong with being

antagonistic toward Trump?

[emmaverybo]

2. This post is missing info. The whole topic already broached today in earlier thread. Biden knew

if called on the tape, Trump was going to do a Bill Clinton smear that could do damage so he advised not opening the door. The previous OP includes transcripts which show that indeed door was opened on a barrage while then Hillary tried to back right out of.

I ought to follow this advice, which is the principal I think Biden was operating under:

Don’t roll around in the mud with a pig. You will get filthy and the pig will love it.

[Kurt V.]

6. so actually it was bad advice then...?

[emmaverybo]

9. It was good advice which she did not take. Once she saw the pig reveling at her having opened the

door, she tried to close it. No big deal. She is skillful, so is he. Politicians exchange ideas and tips. Biden has advised many politicians, in fact, some of his rivals running now. He also gets advised.

[Kurt V.]

10. i can't disagree with this overall

[StarfishSaver]

17. And if she HADN'T brought it up, she would have been attacked for not using it against him

And to this day, people would be saying that that was one of the reasons she lost.

Hillary Clinton was the only one in the ring. It's not up to anyone to second-guess her from the sidelines. And Biden doing it is unseemly and inappropriate. He needs to stop trying to make himself look good by mansplaining to Hillary and concentrate on how HE's going to run in the 2020 primaries.

[George II]

8. You're just too logical and sensible.

[jcgoldie]

21. So Hillary was rolling around with a pig for addressing Trump's admitted sexual assault

What was Biden doing when he said he would like to take Trump out behind the high school gym and beat him up?

[hedda_foil]

3. Terrible advice. Absolutely clueless.

How could she have basically ignored his repulsive behavior? She would have lost a LOT of women voters by acting like it didn't matter. I really would rather he hadn't revealed this because it reinforces the impression that he's out of touch.

[Control-Z]

12. You couldn't be more mistaken. eom

[Jake Stern]

14. Two reasons

1. Because it opened the door for him to bring Bill's iniquities back into the spotlight

2. As unfortunate as it may be, it bolstered his "regular guy" cred immensely which played well in a populist campaign.

[hedda_foil]

16. On please! He brought Bill's accusers to the debate. She couldn't hide and she didn't.

[StarfishSaver]

18. And if she hadn't brought it up, people would have trashed her for backing down

The second-guessing is sickening.

[BlueMississippi]

4. There must be some weird epidemic going around

A lot of people are afflicted with a compulsive desire to beat dead horses.

[George II]

5. The hits keep on coming:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=268439

[melman]

7. Wow

Tone deaf to say the least.

[NanceGreggs]

11. So what?

If you're going to keep pushing this trivial bullshit as something earth-shattering, you might as well use a Sharpie to illustrate your totally pointless point.

[Control-Z]

22. Yup. eom

[comradebillyboy]

13. At this late date who cares what Biden advised Hillary to do.

She won every debate with Trump. There is no benefit in re-litigating 2016.

[delisen]

15. Women's Rights are Human Rights

Don't keep backing away Biden.

[emmaverybo]

19. Whatever are you talking about? Biden has been a champion of women's rights for decades.

Look up the VAWA. He has personally endorsed and supported various women politicians. Advising
Hillary on a debate strategy had nothing to do with backing away from women’s rights.

[delisen]

20. Advising a candidate to avoid Human Rights issue

of Trump's self described behavior and comments about about women on the the tape.

Why would you think this is advising a candidate to not address a human rights issue?