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brooklynite

(94,484 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:32 PM Sep 2019

We asked 100 New Hampshire insiders about the Democratic field. Here's who they favor.

Politico

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Joe Biden found little mojo for his candidacy among Democratic Party insiders at their state convention here Saturday, despite leading the polls in the first-in-the-nation primary state.

Dozens of state representatives, party leaders, operatives and volunteers said they weren’t planning to vote for the former vice president in the nomination contest — and many publicly aired concerns about his age, energy and gender.

A striking number of party activists said they were undecided as 19 presidential candidates delivered stump speeches over seven hours at the SNHU Arena, according to interviews with 100 delegates by POLITICO.

Elizabeth Warren led the way among the surveyed delegates who had made up their minds, followed by Bernie Sanders in second and Biden in third.


Thought about going, but I'll be in Iowa to see the crowd in two weeks.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. I'm not a Politico fan at all . . .
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:42 PM
Sep 2019

They very much favor Republicans. That said, isn't this vote state not caucus.

And for Delegates, total sum includes a combination of other states for nomination consideration.

So, One candidate can obtain more delegates, but another can win the votes from the electoral from that state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
5. From media bias/fact checks
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:16 PM
Sep 2019

Overall, we rate Politico Least Biased based on balanced coverage of news stories and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
3. Amusing to read about supporters of 70-year-old Warren saying Biden and Sanders are too old.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:49 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
7. Amusing that anyone would not realize the difference between 70 and 78
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:44 PM
Sep 2019

or 70 and 77 (in November).

After the age of 65, the incidence of Alzheimers doubles every five years.

But EW appears at least twenty years younger than either of the men. Her energy and her quick, analytical thinking leaves both of them in the dust.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
8. No, she doesn't appear 20 years younger than the men. And because the risk of Alzheimer's is so much
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:03 PM
Sep 2019

greater for women than men, her risk of developing Alzheimer's in the next decade is comparable to the risk for Biden and Sanders.

But it's minimal for all of them.

Btw, Warren almost certainly dyes her hair. If she didn't, if people could see how gray or white her hair is, it's unlikely anyone would claim she looks much younger than Sanders and Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
9. she seems 20 years younger to me than Biden & Sanders
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:07 PM
Sep 2019

She has more energy, enthusiasm, and ideas. And I trust her more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
11. Her skin looks much younger, and it would even if she had gray hair. And she carries herself
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:31 AM
Sep 2019

like a much younger person.

And there is not clearcut evidence that women have higher rates of AD,after accounting for differing educational and professional levels.

https://www.alzdiscovery.org/cognitive-vitality/blog/how-does-alzheimers-affect-women-and-men-differently

Age is the major risk factor for Alzheimer's disease, and women on average live longer than men. However, longevity alone does not fully explain why two-thirds of Alzheimer's patients are women. Even after taking into account the difference in longevity, some studies have suggested that women are still at a higher risk [2]. Results varied though based on when and where the studies were carried out, and gender differences in educational and occupational opportunities may also have contributed to these mixed results [3]. Less education (e.g., none or primary school only) is associated with increased dementia risk, while higher levels of cognitive activity at mid- or late-life are linked to delayed onset of cognitive impairment [4][5]. Interestingly, a recent analysis of numerous studies across the world did not find that the prevalence of Alzheimer's was significantly higher in women than in men after controlling for sex differences in longevity [6]. Greater educational and occupational attainment for women in the past few decades may be closing the gap in dementia incidence between women and men [7]. But unless sex differences in longevity diminish, women will continue to make up a large proportion of Alzheimer's patients.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
15. I really like Joe but come on, Liz is as tack-sharp today as she was a decade ago
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:07 AM
Sep 2019

There's absolutely no evidence she is showing any sort of cognitive decline. Joe is Joe and has always had the occasional slip-up and yes it has gotten a little more noticeable, but for the most part it's people doing a lot of disingenuous Biden concern trolling, almost always with ulterior motives.

Having said that, ALL of our more senior candidates are in vastly better condition than you-know-who, whose brain is currently in bobsled mode (going downhill fast).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kiri

(794 posts)
4. with love and divisions
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

This is disheartening. Last month Hannity/trump was here in Manchester, NH. The fervor was maga. Trump was so fatigued, weak, ludicrous but still inspiring to the crowd.

But Dems will kill us with love and divisions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
6. I'm not for Biden as our nominee, but Politico is shit stirring web site...
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:18 PM
Sep 2019

...for left of center clicks.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brush

(53,763 posts)
10. Nearly all white Iowa and NH are given too much import as the demographic of the party has...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:24 AM
Sep 2019

changed. The first real primary that relfects the diversity of the party is South Carolina and Biden will win there.

No reason to too excited about the undemocratic caucus of Iowa and the non-representative NH primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
13. No reason to be too excited about Feb. 29th in South Carolina, pop. 5 million,
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:09 AM
Sep 2019

when the following primaries will be taking place three days later (including a couple giant ones):

March 3: Super Tuesday (Alabama, Arkansas, California (40 million), Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas 29 million, Utah, Vermont, and Virginia primaries); American Samoa caucuses; Democrats Abroad


So we'll see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,763 posts)
14. I said SC is the first primary which reflects the diversity of the party. Super Tuesday of course...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:21 AM
Sep 2019

follows and with California and its huge cache of delegates now included is of great importance.

No disagreement from me there. BTW, Gov. Cuomo of NY is also trying to move its primary up to Feb.

And I still say Iowa and NH don't matter that much anymore considering their lack of diversity.

Do you agree?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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