A heads up.. we won 3 million more votes and lost the election last time..

[Peacetrain]

We did not lose our cobalt blue places that has tons of our voters.. we lost the great "fly over country" as some like to call it.. and Trump won by having his base, in those particular areas.. we cannot afford to dismiss middle of the road anybody..for the sanctity and purity of what ever philosophy or political stance any of us embraces.. we have to find that person that can bring in the numbers in areas we lost last time..and many of those areas are where the middle of the road Democrats, Independents and yes even some still calling themselves Republicans out of habit..(the Republican Party left them long ago) live..


We cannot afford to lose again..we could literally lose our Democracy..

[Peacetrain]

3. That is what keeps me up at night..

Another 4 years of this craziness..

[Joe941]

2. Aren't you forgetting Russian interference?!

We won period.

[Peacetrain]

6. President Obama won Iowa 2008, and 2012.. Trump took it in 2016.. we have paper ballots

[MrsCoffee]

4. We didn't lose shit. It was treason.

[Bradshaw3]

5. Everyone on here knows that

We have different opinions on how to win the EC, and not one candidate running on the Democratic side is "dismissing" those voters. I certainly take them and the EC into consideration in my choice for the nominee.

[StevieM]

7. We lost because of Comey.

We need to be prepared for the next James Comey, and I am sure there be one in the 2020 election.

Specifically, we need to prepare for some stunt that William Barr tries to pull.

[Peacetrain]

13. God what a nightmare that was..

[George II]

8. Thanks for the reminder to EVERYONE....

By the way, to those who claim that Hillary Clinton never campaigned in the "flyover states" of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, that is patently false.

She was in:

Philadelphia, Hatfield, and Harrisburg, PA on July 29
Johnstown and Pittsburgh PA on July 30
Detroit MI on August 10
Warren MI on August 11
Scranton PA on August 15
Philadelphia PA on August 16
Philadelphia PA on September 19
Haverford and Harrisburg PA on October 10
Pittsburgh and Philadelphia PA on October 22
Pittsburgh PA and Detroit MI on November 4
Philadelphia PA on November 6
Pittsburgh PA, Grand Rapids MI, and Philadelphia PA on November 7

[Joe941]

14. Didn't visit my home state of Wisconsin.

[MontanaMama]

9. It can't be overstated.

We will need to win by a lot more than 3 million votes to win the 2020 election - if it is even possible since the repukes refuse to protect our elections. Russia will be coming hard and fast...expect them.

[Peacetrain]

11. Yep... they were just testing the waters last time to see if they could actually do something

2020 is going to be a nightmare, and this administration has done nothing to offset it.. the little bit of good news I can pass along is that only 5 states do not have some kind of paper back up.. we can get this fixed if we want to

[MontanaMama]

17. We have paper ballots here in MT.

I'm grateful for that. I always take a picture of my ballot as well. Probably doesn't help anything but makes me feel better.

[Peacetrain]

19. oh that is such a good idea!!! I am going to pass that on.. take a picture of our paper ballot..

with the way things are now, a little extra backup is warranted with the craziness going on

[The Mouth]

20. It's WHERE the votes are won that matters

A big part of that 3 million was California.

Our candidate can win by 8 million votes, and if those votes come from already blue states it simply won't matter.

The electoral college is not going away.

The fact is that without taking our candidate's message to the areas Trump won last time - and horror of horrors actually paying attention to the concerns *as they perceive them* of those folks in 'fly over states', no matter how much doing so offends the sensibilities of people for whom Biden isn't progressive enough and Warren questionable- we will lose again.

[Turin_C3PO]

10. If someone

plans to vote against ANY of our candidates in order to support the criminal Trump, then they’re not middle of the road or moderate in any way, IMO. Trump is a fascist. But yes, we need to do everything in our power to implement a 50 state strategy in order to trounce Trump in a landslide.

[pnwmom]

12. REGISTRATION and VOTER DRIVES are what we need to be pushing.

Also, absentee ballots.

We lost millions of votes due to voter suppression, including hundreds of thousands in the critical states. Getting Democrats to the polls is the most critical thing. It won't matter who they support if they can't get out of work to vote, or if they won't stand in line for a couple hours, or if their registrations get tossed, or if their polling place gets moved to a hard-to-reach location.

[Peacetrain]

15. As I was posting to someone else.. we have only 5 states now without some kind of paper back up

but they have done everything can to suppress the.. and absentee voting is something we should all be getting our people ready for..

[peggysue2]

16. Too true, Peacetrain

We cannot afford to lose this election FOR ANY REASON.

And the way we ensure a win is by winning with big, big numbers, choosing the candidate with the best chance of kicking Trump and his criminal enterprise to the curb, someone who recognizes the threat and how to defeat it and repair the damage.

In addition, we need to retain the House and win a majority in the Senate, which means a candidate with coattails to ensure the business of the country's future is actually launched, not sitting on a notepad somewhere. Short of a Senate majority, we need someone who can negotiate as much as possible for the American electorate, someone with the savvy, experience and skillset to change minds or twist arms when necessary. And to get that sort of win, we need a candidate who can appeal to voters spread across the political spectrum and country, an assorted demographic that gets on the same train in November 2020.

That's what we need. And fortunately with Joe Biden that's exactly what we have.

We could, in fact, lose our democracy if Trump pulls another win. No joke. It's absolutely that crucial.

[Peacetrain]

18. peggysue, as I posted to someone else.. this is what keeps me up at night..

Trump has gone through all the people that was supposed to normalize him.. and he has put in amoral suckups who see the world through his eyes and will do anything they want to.. he keeps hinting at a 3rd term.. he is so buddy buddy with kim, he wants to be a life time dictator.. we have to get the best person out there who can move him back to NY and then the SDNY can move him on to jail..

[peggysue2]

21. It should keep us all up at night

Trump is a budding fascist. His continued presence will take us to a very dark place, a place none of us want to go. His scapegoating, cruelty and ignorance are beyond compare. This election will ultimately be a referendum on Trump and Trumpism, both of which need to be completely repudiated at the ballot box. And that means by the biggest numbers possible, a complete obliteration of everything the man and his enablers stand for which is decidedly unAmerican and morally bankrupt.

There's nothing normal about Trump. He is the darkness. We need to be the light.

[blm]

22. Trump has already lost AT LEAST 2-5% of his 2016 voters in swing states.

He’s not getting them back, and he is not growing his base.....it is shrinking.

[DrFunkenstein]

23. If A Dem President Had Trump's Numbers, We'd Be Crapping Our Pants

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[elocs]

24. A team wins the World Series by winning 4 games.

The losing team can't make a claim for the title because they scored a lot more runs because a couple of their 3 wins were blowouts. But if only they could move some of those excess runs from games they won to a game they narrowly lost, then they really would be the World Series champs.
Because you don't win the title by runs scored, but by games won. And you don't win the presidency by popular votes cast, but by electoral votes.
But then we all already knew this, right? I'm willing to bet that had Clinton won the electoral vote but lost the popular vote that there would be crickets here about the Electoral College.

Our Democratic Party tent needs to be big and we don't have the luxury of purging anyone just because they don't pass a purity test and we can't all but invite moderate or conservative Democrats to leave by dissing them as DINOs or Republican Lite.