Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumRaise your hand if you're scared of Elizabeth Warren becoming president...
Watched Bill Maher this morning on Scarborough and he said he was scared of her presidency. Now, I'm a Biden supporter, but the notion that somehow anyone should be frightened of a Warren presidency is laughable, especially with the insanity that is currently in the WH.
That's only a small portion of what Maher said that pissed me off. He comes across with RW talking points and it makes me want to punch him in the face really hard.
This is why I do not watch Maher's HBO show any longer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pbmus
(12,422 posts)And I live in a very very small city...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftieNanner
(15,078 posts)In fact, I changed my Primary preference to Warren a few weeks ago!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,053 posts)but unlike them, you're likely not a multi-millionaire 'scared' for your bank account.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftieNanner
(15,078 posts)If I were a multi millionaire, I think I would be happy to participate in the Liz Warren program. But I'm not. I don't enjoy paying taxes, but I do understand the value of the commons for all of us. Except maybe our obscene bloated military.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)but worried she will be our candidate. Some of her policies are very unpopular and Trump will make a big deal out of it.
She has not caught on with African-Americans which is a death knell for a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lindysalsagal
(20,647 posts)If you're old enough to know what a ditto is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)wtf
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Then they may need to rethink their political allegiances...
If the difference in 2020 is again turn-out (which it is almost 100% certain to be as the electoral college map is already about 70% certain TODAY); and we have voters who sit it out because their chosen or preferred shiny penny was not on the ballot, then the death of the republic and loss of anything resembling democratic self-rule is on their heads, and down to the 9th generation thereafter as well.
If the choice is a ham-fucking-sandwich with rancid cheese or Trump, hold your nose and chow the fuck down, period.
A spirited and inclusive debate of the best candidate is in order, and welcome...tonight is going to be a treat to me...but when its over, it OVER...and we close ranks behind the winner, period.
The Democratic Party nominee has my vote in 2020, period.
No conditions.
No hesitation.
No pouting or taking my ball home.
No questions.
For anyone else calling themself "Democrat" and not equally committed to the 2020 nominee, darken my doorstep no more and call me enemy, not friend, for we share no common cause if you attempt to subvert or demean the party standard bearer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)A death knell that the majority of AAs prefer Obama's VP? I don't think so.
A death knell if the African-Americans who voted in 2016 decided to stay at home, -yes -but I do not see that happening do you?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...of people who think like Maher.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,409 posts)I'd like a president who has plans instead of the impulsive dumbass we currently have
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueTsunami2018
(3,490 posts)Im afraid of her getting smoked in the general. Id be thrilled if she won, I just dont think she can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)but I won't be scared if she becomes POTUS. I'd be scared if someone to her left becomes POTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Auggie
(31,156 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)He complained about the left and all that jazz.
It was pretty ridiculous I thought.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Auggie
(31,156 posts)I like Maher, but sometimes he goes too far.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)This notion that Democrats are too far to the left, while ignoring that all Trump needs are brown uniforms and black boots for his Trumpentroopers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,228 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheRealNorth
(9,474 posts)When you adopt the Republican "Too far left" narrative, you are cutting your own throat because any Democratic candidate is "Too far left" for the Republicans. It is best to reframe this issue because you will lose if you keep jumping through Republican framing.
You don't see Republicans saying their candidates' are "Too far to the right". Being too moderate (i.e. RINO) is a bad thing to the Republican party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)Elizabeth Warren becoming President.
Of course, I like most of our Democratic candidates, so we have a great field to choose from.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,483 posts)I'm convinced Sanders can't win. I'm reasonably certain Biden can. The question is: where between those two points does Warren fall?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)I am afraid she can't pull off a win against Trumplandia.
As for Bill Maher? I can only take him in small doses. That being said, any of our candidates would be 1000x better than the Mad King.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Scarborough saying Political correctness is what created Stephen Miller
Hear it for yourself
Link to tweet
?s=21
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
woodsprite
(11,909 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,447 posts)What he said was that Boris Johnson is a kind of Trump figure and not popular but what they have on the left is Corbin, someone who is scary to middle of the road voters, and he doesn't want that to happen here. Democrats are having a race to the far left. When you run on taking away people's health care, taking their guns, giving trans women abortion rights, you seem crazier or scarier than Trump to the middle of the road voters, rank and file Democrats who are the majority (Twitter isn't real life). He loves Warren but she scares him a little bit because all Democrats have to do to win this election is not be scarier than Donald Trump. And if a person isn't inspired to vote against Trump, you're not following politics at all.
He didn't say he was scared of Warren becoming president, he said if she goes to far left she will scare rank and file Democrats. "I love Elizabeth Warren, but she does scare me a little bit because all we have to do to win this election is to not be scarier to people than Donald Trump."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)I heard it a bit differently. The whole discussion between the two was a bit nauseating to hear, IMO. It seems like corporate media doesn't feel right about itself unless they hit Dems for manufactured fears.
It seems like there's too much hand-wringing about the Dems going too far left on corporate media.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GeorgeGist
(25,318 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,447 posts)Kill the messenger fail.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)He's sometimes spot on (most times regarding Trump) but at heart he's still a comic and will go for the laugh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Are raising their hands at the thought of Red Earth Daughter (aka Elizabeth Warren) being elected President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ornotna
(10,798 posts)Really?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)The topsoil in that part of the state is reddish in color, and her background is about as middle-American (As Republicans used to say) as they come.
IMO, nicknaming Senator Warren Red Earth Daughter not only blunts DTs Pocahontas canard But reminds voters of how quintessentially American Senator Warrens background really is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ornotna
(10,798 posts)To me when I first read it, it seemed a bit of a continuation of tRumps nonsense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)playing Brooks and Dunns Red Earth or the Overture to Rogers and Hammersteins musical Oklahoma.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,900 posts)Something is really wrong with this guy to go around talking like this. Joe Scar should not have given him this opportunity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... understood exactly what he was saying. He did not say he was afraid of a Warren presidency. It was obvious to me that he was talking about her far-left policies as an obstacle to her being able to beat Trump as opposed to a more moderate candidate. I agree with this statement, but if she were to become the nominee, and actually became president, I would be perfectly happy with that. I would not be afraid of a Warren White House. Nowhere in the interview did Bill Maher ever state that he was afraid of a Warren presidency.
I strongly suggest going to MSNBC and listening to the interview for the first time, or a second time carefully. This is what he actually said.
DO I NEED TO PUT THIS IN ALL CAPS? I shouldn't have to.
snip:
Near the end of the interview, Maher summed up his fears about the Democratic Party this way: I love Elizabeth Warren, but she does scare me a little bit because, again, all we have to do to win this election is not be scarier to people than Donald Trump.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2019/09/12/bill-maher-condemns-far-left-cancer-democratic-party
Maybe this thread will be different from the other thread I have replied to that has misconstrued Bill Maher's statements. So far all I've gotten back is.... crickets.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,447 posts)That other thread is terrible. I dread every time Maher's on teevee because people get so angry, I don't think they even listen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts)For some reason, when it comes to Bill Maher, a lot of people shoot from the hip spraying bullets all around the target, but never hitting the bullseye. It's as if there is no caution, stop, or yield sign between the brain and the keyboard. I like Bill Maher, and I'll defend him any time it is warranted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)making sense.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
quickesst
(6,280 posts)I'm a Bill Maher fan, but I am a fan with the understanding that he may not be everyone's cup of tea. That's fine. I'm willing to discuss, and sometimes defend his point of view, but if anyone thinks they can purposely misconstrue, or even lie about something he says, I will come down on them hard so the next time they might think twice about what they are about to say. I'm not limited to just Bill Maher as several people here probably remember, but would be reluctant to own up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gibraltar72
(7,500 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)It's near the end of the interview, about 16 minutes in.
Maher isn't afraid of a Warren presidency. He said he loves Warren. He's afraid she'll lose to Trump, that voters will find her ideas too far left.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The Democrats have a strong field. All the candidates are more than acceptable to me, and I'll be damned happy to pull the lever for any one of them.
Maher is, well... an entertainer. He's effective at entertaining his fans, but I don't give his political analyses any more weight than I'd give to Eddie Murphy's dating advice in his film, Raw.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)I never liked him, even if he says some things I'll agree with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,361 posts)She had been a guest on his show many times, and he seemed to be crazy about her. He's been acting rather weird lately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,053 posts)Problem explained.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:58 AM - Edit history (1)
I prefer Bernie because he wants to change the system while Elizabeth wants to reform it .. But she would make a fine President
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
volstork
(5,399 posts)self-serving tool. He thinks hes significantly more clever than he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dlk
(11,540 posts)Its expression takes many forms, such as Mahers comments. It would be a mistake to believe that liberals, such as Maher, truly believe in womens equality. Many dont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)would be scary about her. Some GOPers don't like her economic policies but she can't raise taxes or implement MFA on her own and Congress isn't likely to do it anyhow.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Faux pas
(14,657 posts)was his focus on 'centerists'. IMHO center means go along to get along and change nothing. We need to move FORWARD.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fla Dem
(23,632 posts)When he and the idiot Mika bashed HRC for a year, then were aghast that Trump won the election but claimed they had nothing to do with it.
I heard him on Friday and had to turn him off or I would have ended up throwing my iphone (listen on sirius).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,624 posts)When it comes to political commentary, he ain't Jon Stewart.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)Said he wanted a "mean old man who would take care of his money". He's scared over the prospect of of paying a little more in taxes and he expects the rest of us to feel sympathy for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redwitch
(14,944 posts)I really find him abrasive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden