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highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:40 AM Sep 2019

Here's What Protesters Were Shouting at Biden During the Debate (TIME article with video)

https://time.com/5676640/biden-protesters-democratic-debate/


During the third Democratic presidential primary debate, protestors interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden as he was about to answer a question about how a significant setback shaped him.

To viewers at home, it was not immediately clear what the protestors were saying. But Jess Davidson, executive director of the advocacy organization End Rape on Campus, confirmed to TIME that the group was chanting about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

Davidson also tweeted that the protestors were chanting “we are DACA recipients. Our lives are at risk.” She also wrote that at least some protesters got on the stage.

Davidson told TIME via Twitter that she was “in the front row of the side stand near them and watched them be escorted out.”

Another person also tweeted a video of a man wearing a shirt that read “Defend DACA, Abolish ICE, citizenship for all” being escorted out of the debate.

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Tweets about the protesters that the article links to:

















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Here's What Protesters Were Shouting at Biden During the Debate (TIME article with video) (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2019 OP
Methinks snowybirdie Sep 2019 #1
Indeed!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #2
They got heard and people are talking about it. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #3
Actually, they hurt their cause.... they should have been in Baltimore at Trump's speech scheming daemons Sep 2019 #4
Actually, they didn't get heard. All I saw on Twitter last night were tweets pointing out how highplainsdem Sep 2019 #5
So all the articles posting what they were shouting aren't happening? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #9
+1 demmiblue Sep 2019 #7
I doubt it. Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #8
They hurt their cause when they attack Democrats...who have provided the only protection ever...and Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #15
They were protesting to be heard. We should be supporting this. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #16
No,they can be 'heard' protesting Trump ...this implies that Democrats not Republicans are at fault Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #17
I have learned today that a large number of people don't know how social movements work. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #18
Maybe they should complain about GOP types and support those who try to help them...Democrats....it Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #30
Yeah, there were protests to be heard customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #19
Exactly! TruckFump Sep 2019 #11
Stupid people BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #6
Not helping their cause. DURHAM D Sep 2019 #10
Yes, wrong party. But they're not hurting themselves, Hortensis Sep 2019 #13
When Biden said "I'm Sorry" at the protesters made me feel bad for him Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #12
Poorly planned, poorly executed, wrong time, wrong venue. CousinIT Sep 2019 #14
And when the protesters customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #20
Are you saying you don't understand that term? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #21
You're not going to reach swing voters customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #22
You know they said this at the Dem debate, right? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #23
Everything said in a debate customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #24
Wait. You blame Nixon on the Chicago 7? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #25
Didn't it work out that way? customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #26
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #27
Not an idiot customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #28
I thought Biden seemed a little shaken after the disturbance. defacto7 Sep 2019 #29
 

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
1. Methinks
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:44 AM
Sep 2019

they protested in the wrong venue. Should have been in Baltimore.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
3. They got heard and people are talking about it.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:45 AM
Sep 2019

Methinks that is what they wanted. And good for them.

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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
4. Actually, they hurt their cause.... they should have been in Baltimore at Trump's speech
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:54 AM
Sep 2019

Not protesting the candidates that are ON THEIR SIDE.
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highplainsdem

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5. Actually, they didn't get heard. All I saw on Twitter last night were tweets pointing out how
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:54 AM
Sep 2019

ineffective the protesters were when almost no one could understand what they were shouting.

They were also slammed for their timing, interrupting just as Biden was starting to talk about losses in his family.

It would have been much smarter for them to protest when immigration was being discussed, and to agree on what they were going to yell.

I'd give them an F for effectiveness.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,916 posts)
9. So all the articles posting what they were shouting aren't happening?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:26 AM
Sep 2019

Like the one in the OP.

They are protesting to get exposure. They protest where they think they can get it. They did get it. Well done.

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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
8. I doubt it.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:08 AM
Sep 2019

Most people didn't have a clue what they were yelling.

And by the time we found out what they were saying, most the entire country has moved on to Jason Voorhees and full moons.

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Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
15. They hurt their cause when they attack Democrats...who have provided the only protection ever...and
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:59 PM
Sep 2019

if Trump wins, they are toast...so protest those who want to help you...wonder who really is behind this.

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Cuthbert Allgood

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16. They were protesting to be heard. We should be supporting this.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

Jesus.

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Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
17. No,they can be 'heard' protesting Trump ...this implies that Democrats not Republicans are at fault
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:03 PM
Sep 2019

and hurts our electoral chances...Trump winning will be devestatng for this group...with the current court and another justice,they will all be sent back.

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Cuthbert Allgood

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18. I have learned today that a large number of people don't know how social movements work.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019

We should be supporting this group not complaining about them. If they got this reaction from people support them, they would be killed if they did this at a Trump rally. Do you not get that? We can support them by letting them be heard.

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Demsrule86

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30. Maybe they should complain about GOP types and support those who try to help them...Democrats....it
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 04:39 PM
Sep 2019

was a disgusting display...and if they help Trump in 20, they will pay a terrible price for such foolishness.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
19. Yeah, there were protests to be heard
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

back in Chicago in 1968, and we saw how that turned out.

I figure that there are a lot of Antifa types out there just waiting to make a similar stink at the Democratic convention next year. They will scare the shit out of mushy middle voters.

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TruckFump

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11. Exactly!
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:10 PM
Sep 2019

Dems support DACA...totally. It's MF45 and the MAGAts that want to screw them over.

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BlueMississippi

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6. Stupid people
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:57 AM
Sep 2019

I wonder if David Sirota organized this ...

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DURHAM D

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10. Not helping their cause.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:39 AM
Sep 2019

Protesting wrong party.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Yes, wrong party. But they're not hurting themselves,
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:30 PM
Sep 2019

or others either, because we believe in their rights and our responsibilities.

But, no kidding, that so many people wanting what Democrats stand for always protest US, as if WE were keeping it from them instead of the Republicans. We're the national whipping dog, maybe because the Republicans would just take all these complaints as affirmation of conservative values.

DACA is a Democratic program, and Jorge Ramos doesn't care to differentiate, and Biden was part of the Obama administration when DACA was created, and Biden's on the stage, so of course the road leads to us.

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Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
12. When Biden said "I'm Sorry" at the protesters made me feel bad for him
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:21 PM
Sep 2019

Those protesters couldn't have picked a worse moment to start yelling.

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CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
14. Poorly planned, poorly executed, wrong time, wrong venue.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:38 PM
Sep 2019

Was nothing but an annoyance. I support their cause, but not this particular tactic. Another time and place should have been chosen - plenty of more appropriate options.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. And when the protesters
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:17 PM
Sep 2019

use the term "stolen land", they actively question the legitimacy of everyone who owns their own home in the United States, not making them very sympathetic figures in the eyes of people paying their mortgages.

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Cuthbert Allgood

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21. Are you saying you don't understand that term?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:51 PM
Sep 2019

Sweet Jesus. Things I never thought I'd hear liberals say.

I own a home. Not even a mortgage. Just outright own. I fully understand the US is stolen land. I would think Democrats would A. understand that and B. support them. Guess I'm wrong.

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customerserviceguy

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22. You're not going to reach swing voters
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:03 PM
Sep 2019

with that kind of language. Part of the appeal from the DACA recipients is that they just want to live in and be Americans like anyone who was born in the US. Calling people whose families have lived on the land for many generations "thieves" is not going to make people sympathetic to their cause.

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Cuthbert Allgood

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23. You know they said this at the Dem debate, right?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:09 PM
Sep 2019

Where they assumed people would understand their point. I'm sorry they were so wrong about the support they should get from Dems.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
24. Everything said in a debate
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

is fair game for potential weaponization in a general election campaign.

But, it was not the candidates who said this, it was the protestors at the debate, who got all out of control. It makes me wonder what they have in mind for our convention next year.

I'll be 64 in a couple of months, and I was living in the Chicago area in 1968. I vividly remember the shitshow that was played out on TV during the convention. And I damned good and well remember that even with George Wallace bleeding off the worst of the racists, that Nixon won anyway, and consolidated his victory at re-election time in 1972. Had he not been such a paranoid fuck, and orchestrated the Watergate break-in, we would have had a much different last few decades.

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Cuthbert Allgood

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25. Wait. You blame Nixon on the Chicago 7?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:20 PM
Sep 2019

Talk about over simplifying the shit out of something and ignoring roughly a million more important things. Damn.

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customerserviceguy

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26. Didn't it work out that way?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

Are you some millennial who thinks that the late 1960's was all peace, drugs, equality and rock-n-roll? I remember it as a frightening time when the right wing started to dismantle the promise of progressivism that started during the Eisenhower years (admittedly, the Supreme Court of that time had more to do with it than Eisenhower) and continued through two Democratic administrations.

I was absolutely sure that Hubert Humphrey (and then George McGovern after him) would win the elections. It's only in retrospect that I can see how wrong I was, and how the behavior of the worst actors caused a part in that. No, it wasn't just the Chicago 7, but all kinds of "burn, baby, burn" mentality that contributed to the insecurity of mushy middle voters at that time.

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Cuthbert Allgood

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27. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:33 PM
Sep 2019

And I'm 53, but way to be the boomer that thinks any one not a boomer is an idiot. As a Gen X, I'm used to that attitude. It sucked in the 70s and 80s and it sucks now, too.

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customerserviceguy

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28. Not an idiot
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:42 PM
Sep 2019

but someone who has a different perspective from having not directly experienced those times.

And anyone who thinks that 1968 and 1972 cannot possibly happen again might be an idiot. Surely, 2016 showed us that crazy shit can indeed occur.

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defacto7

(13,485 posts)
29. I thought Biden seemed a little shaken after the disturbance.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:57 PM
Sep 2019

It worried me a bit.

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