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DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 06:47 PM Sep 2019

Biden/Warren what are the odds?

Long way to go but it looks like it will eventually come down to these two. Now assuming Warren doesn't run away with it, I give it 75/25 Biden picks Warren as the VP. It would be smart politics. If Warren, I think she needs to pick a military/foreign policy expert. Any thought on that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Biden/Warren what are the odds? (Original Post) DIVINEprividence Sep 2019 OP
not going to happen. JI7 Sep 2019 #1
Long, methinks. Eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #2
They seemed friendly enough at the debate, but reports are that they don't really like each other. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #3
it's unlikely he would pick her even if they liked each other JI7 Sep 2019 #4
I never understand VP picks - Hillary's pick was lame. walkingman Sep 2019 #5
not really. she picked Tim Kaine because he was someone she could work well with JI7 Sep 2019 #9
No. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #6
If Joe had run in 2015-16 as he originally intended, he wanted Warren as VP blm Sep 2019 #7
why would Warren want that? jcgoldie Sep 2019 #8
At this moment in time it looks like Warren is the only other candidate comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #10
Biden isn't going to pick a woman or a person of color. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #11
if he is the nominee he should pick Beto O'Rourke JI7 Sep 2019 #17
He's way more likely to be selected than Warren. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #23
Um, sorry, but you don't know that.. whathehell Sep 2019 #27
Where have you been? Biden's been making it clear for months that he'd like a diverse ticket. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #28
So he's promised to pick a woman or POC? rogue emissary Sep 2019 #38
Tulsi has military/foreign policy. floppyboo Sep 2019 #12
So? She's not a viable option for prez or vp. Too many red flags. Claritie Pixie Sep 2019 #24
Zero chance of that happening. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #26
A million times, no. bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #29
And we need representation from Moscow in Oval Office discussions dalton99a Sep 2019 #30
I hate to bring this up but the age ecstatic Sep 2019 #13
If it's Elizabeth, the choice for VP is clear... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #14
But of course! floppyboo Sep 2019 #32
Hard to say kurtcagle Sep 2019 #15
if biden gets the nod, abrams is vp. if its warren she picks bennet or maybe pete. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #16
i think Warren would go with a minority male. maybe Corey Booker JI7 Sep 2019 #18
i thought of booker too. he'd be great. and agree with your other point. Seriously bad optics for Kurt V. Sep 2019 #21
My favorite ticket is Warren/Beto jcgoldie Sep 2019 #35
Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris Hekate Sep 2019 #19
Military and foreign policy advice should be given by experts. Blue_true Sep 2019 #20
At this point, PatSeg Sep 2019 #22
Not a chance. And not just because both are 70+ and from New England. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #25
If it's Joe at the top, then he'll as Harris or Stacey Abrams to VP. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #31
I like a Biden/Warren ticket andym Sep 2019 #33
Warren's powerful anti-corruption voice would be knee-capped if Biden's VP floppyboo Sep 2019 #34
See post #25. Warren would never be on a ticket with Biden. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #36
No bet. Warren is much better staying in the Senate where she can do some good... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #37
Should Warren offer Biden the VP slot if she wins? BlueWI Sep 2019 #39
No way in hell Biden picks a progressive running mate. bluedigger Sep 2019 #40
 

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
3. They seemed friendly enough at the debate, but reports are that they don't really like each other.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:00 PM
Sep 2019

Now, I'm fine with assuming that is totally erroneous, but it doesn't change the fact that their policies and philosophies are pretty far apart. So, I think the odds are very much against it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,247 posts)
4. it's unlikely he would pick her even if they liked each other
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:01 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

walkingman

(7,605 posts)
5. I never understand VP picks - Hillary's pick was lame.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:06 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,247 posts)
9. not really. she picked Tim Kaine because he was someone she could work well with
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:13 PM
Sep 2019

he would have been a great vp and similar to gore and Biden where they did more actual work rather than just attend ceremonial things.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
6. No.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:10 PM
Sep 2019

If she does not make it to the General Election we need her back in the Senate, as our senior senator from MA.

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blm

(113,047 posts)
7. If Joe had run in 2015-16 as he originally intended, he wanted Warren as VP
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:11 PM
Sep 2019

And had met with her several times to discuss it.

I’m surprised most of DU is unaware of that bit of political history.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
8. why would Warren want that?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:13 PM
Sep 2019

She's 70 herself, its not like there's a stepping stone to the whitehouse.

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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
10. At this moment in time it looks like Warren is the only other candidate
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:24 PM
Sep 2019

who could give Biden a run for his money. But Biden is still the favorite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
11. Biden isn't going to pick a woman or a person of color.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:26 PM
Sep 2019

If he was going to consider picking Warren. He would have promised to pick a woman like Booker and few other candidates did early at the start of campaigning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JI7

(89,247 posts)
17. if he is the nominee he should pick Beto O'Rourke
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:45 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
23. He's way more likely to be selected than Warren.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:49 PM
Sep 2019

Before the dust between them. I thought Swalwell would be in the running for his VP.

Beto does take care of a lot of perceived faults of Biden. Like youth, geographics as comes from the south and ability to speak to intersectionals.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
27. Um, sorry, but you don't know that..
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:29 PM
Sep 2019

Every candidate doesn't telegraph their choices..Some don't even decide until late in the campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,973 posts)
28. Where have you been? Biden's been making it clear for months that he'd like a diverse ticket.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:44 PM
Sep 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287193012

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287257386


There was a lot of talk last spring that Stacey Abrams might be his running mate, and that might be announced early, but they both denied that rumor. And Abrams was considering entering the presidential race herself then.

More recently, though, Abrams has sounded as if she's open to become the nominee's running mate.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
38. So he's promised to pick a woman or POC?
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 03:52 PM
Sep 2019

Again other male candidates promised to pick a women to be their running mate.

That's the standard I'm using to determine if they are serious about having a diverse ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
12. Tulsi has military/foreign policy.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:27 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
24. So? She's not a viable option for prez or vp. Too many red flags.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 09:43 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
26. Zero chance of that happening.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:22 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,457 posts)
30. And we need representation from Moscow in Oval Office discussions
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:24 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ecstatic

(32,689 posts)
13. I hate to bring this up but the age
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:28 PM
Sep 2019

thing might be a problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
14. If it's Elizabeth, the choice for VP is clear...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:28 PM
Sep 2019

Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!! or
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
32. But of course!
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:13 PM
Sep 2019

Sanders has foreign policy. He is one of the most recognizable political figures internationally.He's part of an international coalition with Varoufakis.
The enemy is within. The military isn't designed to bomb ideas. That hasn't worked out so good.
Initiatives like this is why the Vatican invited Sanders to talk about economic inequality as a global issue.
Here ya go!

Here is the international community and the launch



Yaroufakis on DN
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kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
15. Hard to say
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:38 PM
Sep 2019

VP choices aren't always based on whether two people get along well - they are usually focused on whether the VP will bring in a portion of the electorate that the President won't. For Biden, I'd say that it will likely end up being a woman, and if you're assuming its one of the other contenders, then Warren, Harris and potentially Klobuchar are all in the running. I think a Biden/Harris ticket in that case would be more likely, especially if Harris continues polling around 5%, but it is possible that Biden could go with Warren to pick up the more progressive wing (and noting that for all that Biden is portrayed as a moderate here, he's still more liberal than Clinton was when she started campaigning in 2016), so I think we need to be realistic about what that means.

Biden is not a strong debater. I'm not sure that matters in this election. He's been canny enough not to appear to be too much on the attack during the debates, and he's a much more eloquent speaker when he's playing to a crowd. What's more, if he wins, he almost certainly WON'T be running again in 2024, which means that the choice of VP has more significance this time around than in 2016. Note also that Clinton made a major strategic error in Tim Kaine by choosing someone who was mostly unknown outside the DC area, which did little to ignite her base.

Also keep in mind that we still may be looking at the next administration, assuming a Biden Presidency: Warren as Sec Treasury, Harris as Attorney General, Inslee as Sec Interior, possibly Klobuchar as Sec Defense. I don't see any clear Sec State candidate or National Security Advisor, but that's not really the point. You can see where people would easily slot into certain positions.

I still like Warren, and will readily vote for her, but if Biden maintains a consistent lead as he has, I won't be too upset pulling that lever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
16. if biden gets the nod, abrams is vp. if its warren she picks bennet or maybe pete.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:43 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

JI7

(89,247 posts)
18. i think Warren would go with a minority male. maybe Corey Booker
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:47 PM
Sep 2019

any chance if picking Castro went away after last night.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
21. i thought of booker too. he'd be great. and agree with your other point. Seriously bad optics for
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:00 PM
Sep 2019

castro

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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
35. My favorite ticket is Warren/Beto
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:31 PM
Sep 2019
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Hekate

(90,660 posts)
19. Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:49 PM
Sep 2019

Works for me

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Military and foreign policy advice should be given by experts.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:55 PM
Sep 2019

We have plenty of experts like Lisa Monaco that can lead departments and give advice to a President and Vice President. We just need the two top officers to be competent, inquisitive people who take that advice and craft effective policy.

We need a Vice President choice that can excite the democratic base. The person best positioned for that seems to be Harris.

I think the nomination will come down to Biden or Warren. Neither will be the other's VP choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
22. At this point,
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:06 PM
Sep 2019

they are my two favorite candidates. In my dreams, I see them as a ticket. Back in 2015-16 when Joe was still on the fence about running, it was rumored that he was courting Warren as a possible VP pick.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
25. Not a chance. And not just because both are 70+ and from New England.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:39 PM
Sep 2019

There's no way Warren would give up a Senate seat to be VP to someone with whom she disagrees on economic/financial matters.

I don't think either of them will be the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
31. If it's Joe at the top, then he'll as Harris or Stacey Abrams to VP.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:33 AM
Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

andym

(5,443 posts)
33. I like a Biden/Warren ticket
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:20 PM
Sep 2019

Biden would probably do better in the rust belt, due to being a native son. He might decide he wants to retire near the end of his term, making Elizabeth Warren President. Note that Teddy Roosevelt, Warren's hero, would likely never have become President, had he not been picked as VP, because he was considered too radical by the GOP of his day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
34. Warren's powerful anti-corruption voice would be knee-capped if Biden's VP
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:25 PM
Sep 2019

I think her legacy would be better served staying in the Senate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
36. See post #25. Warren would never be on a ticket with Biden.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 02:59 PM
Sep 2019

She probably wouldn't be a VP for anyone, but especially not Biden.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
37. No bet. Warren is much better staying in the Senate where she can do some good...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

Same with Harris and Klobuchar.

And, how often do Presidential candidates pick their competitors for VP? Usually, it's someone we never thought of and who won't be tempted to use the office as a springboard for another run.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
39. Should Warren offer Biden the VP slot if she wins?
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 09:03 AM
Sep 2019

It could happen.

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bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
40. No way in hell Biden picks a progressive running mate.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 10:57 AM
Sep 2019

I'd guess Klobuchar or someone not currently a candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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