Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNate Silver on the hysterical overreaction by Biden critics to the Corn Pop story
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,776 posts)dissed!
Oh I hope not.. he makes good points!
Thanks,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)Biden supporters are not uninformed or naive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)political mill a few times or more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,580 posts)I was having 2016 flashbacks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)long slog..
Hopefully we'll kick trump out this time like he never should have been rigged in the first place.
Beagles
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,580 posts)Not the trivial nonsense.
Mahalo Cha
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)I have been active in politics for a very long time. I am seeing the fruits of our efforts and I really believe that Biden is the best person to flip Texas
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)for all your diligent focused work on turning Texas BLUE, Goth!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,580 posts)This was a really stupid controversy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)senate map makes me want to weep...and without the blue wall we have no path to the presidency...so I think the idea that the time is right to try to elect a president who is of the left is a foolish endeavor- doomed to failure. Don't get me wrong, I would like nothing more. But Biden is not really a centrist but progressive. He appeals to centrists. There is a difference.
Biden supporters are not naive...those who support Warren and to a lesser extent Sanders are the ones who exhibit naivete in terms of how presidential politics work. Pres. Obama liked Biden but the reason he was chosen was to deliver the Mid West to Obama...and he he did...twice. And he will win the mid west in 20. He is up in Ohio for God's sake. He will win back the blue wall states and God willing, give us a landslide that allows us to take the Senate back...and deliver an overhwelming and humiliating loss to the the slimy orange monster that the vile murderous sociopath can't tamper with by cheating even with help from his Russian buddies. Biden will be a great president and ready on day one.
I like Warren, but a liberal senator from Massachusssetts who supports MFA simply won't win the Mid West in a general. She will win the popular vote like Hillary but lose the electoral college IMHO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)In Texas, we flipped two red seats (TX CD 7 and TX CD 31) with moderate and sane candidates. Lizzie Fletcher and Colin Allred are moderate democrats who were able to win these seats.
I want to beat trump and I think that Joe Biden is the best person to accomplished this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)Lizzie is active in this group. She is a great litigator
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Almost half the electorate has been voting for the white power party. The other half is committed to stopping them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)Good news... it isnt working!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)Why hasn't President Obama endorsed Biden by now?
So many "Gotchas" so little time.
kasper
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,580 posts)If he did and endorsed Biden there would be no end to the howls of outrage. The Obama's are doing the right thing by staying out of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)It looks so pathetic to now drag in prez Obama and Michelle into the fray.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)for very anti Obama articles...(used car salesman comes to mind). I resent the "you support Biden because you are stupid and afraid"...kind of posts I have seen. It is not true, I chose Biden after careful numeric analysis of the electoral college maps and where our best chances lie...I do like Biden but I would choose any candidate who had the best chance to win a general... As for being afraid, anyone who is not terrified of the consequences if Trump gets reelected isn't paying attention.
We have made the decision to send our youngest daughter who is gay to Ireland if he is re-elected. She already faces more forms of discrimination since Trump was elected- some quite dangerous. My husband's parents came over from Ireland and we have the right of return.
I deal in that which is possible not my hearts desire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,776 posts)President I 2021 but that sounds like a wonderful plan for your daughter as back up, Dems!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,239 posts)also it keeps the election focused on Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Land Shark
(6,346 posts)I think people want to be able to say trump needs mental status exams, without that then being turned around on the Dem nominee -- whether that is Biden or anyone else. It is not about weak support per se. But i do get why someone might see it that way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,239 posts)do come off pretty clueless.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)I think you will find Biden supporters are well informed as is our candidate of choice.
Youre entitled to your opinion, but Negative posts dont change the minds of voters
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,641 posts)Present your "better" option rather than focusing all your energy on what Biden just said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapfog_1
(29,189 posts)If I had one wish it would be for Democrats (those running for POTUS and their supporters) to present positive massages about what THEY (the candidate) bring to the table and not what other Democratic candidates "lack".
I know Warren brings a whole slew of plans... well thought out plans. And the only negative swipe she has made (I believe) is the one about "why run for POTUS on the things we CAN'T do as Democrats?"
The other candidates bring their strengths as well... Mayor Pete might just be the smartest person in the entire pack, Beto is the most passionate, Booker brings a Jersey "street smart" vibe and Harris brings a proprietorial zeal... and all the rest bring something as well.
If you like a candidate... tell me why I should vote for them... don't tell me why I shouldn't vote for the candidate I've picked right now (started off with Beto, switched to Harris... now onto Biden... donated to all three plus Tom Steyer so he could qualify).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)The ultra left has been targeting Biden, a great VP and an honest, decent, competent public servant since even before he announced to destroy him only because he is a fly in the ointment of their socialist dreams.
Their track record of disaster is not teaching them any lessons.
Lucy Flores - fail
Anita Hill - fail
Iraq war - fail
crime bill - fail
busing - fail
"so called gaffes" -- fail
"there are some good republicans" - fail
Corn Pop - fail
The detractors are completely oblivious to the fact that Democrats know what these same forces did before and are now wiser. They will not let Biden be Hillaryfied. It is also turning off neutral Democrats and making them lean towards Biden.
Wise people know that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is foolish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,019 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,536 posts)I smell a lot of desperation in the air, you can read it in some the donation emails and in social media. The field is narrowing and that's a bit scary for some, I suspect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
orleans
(34,039 posts)to that corn pop story?????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)about a soldier...their sources...the right wing...and interviews with other soldiers...I wonder what party some of them came from...Biden stuck to his guns...good for him. And of course they counted on it being so old that there would be no corroboraton...too bad for them...should have done their research. Those who promoted this story look foolish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
orleans
(34,039 posts)i meant what was the damn point of biden telling that STUPID story???
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sugarcoated
(7,716 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts)That's why there are about 5 to 10 are these threads started every day. Most of them backfire, and only serve to increase Joe's favorable ratings. You would think someone would learn after a while.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueTsunami2018
(3,480 posts)Not on Facebook, not on the news, not anywhere. No one cares except for a small subset on the left.
Whatever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)
Just search Twitter or Google for
biden corn pop
and you'll see the overreaction.
The worst were the stories and tweets suggesting Corn Pop didn't even exist and Biden had made the story up, when a few minutes of googling would have shown the story has been confirmed by a former head of the Delaware NAACP, who was there when it happened.
And then there were objections to Biden telling the story even if it were true, because
Corn Pop was short (apparently short gang members, even if armed and facing someone unarmed, aren't dangerous)
or
there must be something wrong with Biden to talk about this incident (never mind that it's well known in Wilmington and a favorite Biden story with the black community there, which loves Biden)
or
Biden shouldn't be telling the story because it plays into harmful stereotypes (see above; the black community has no problem with it).
Some of the ridicule seems to have centered on Corn Pop's nickname. As if Biden were somehow responsible for that.
I don't think I've ever seen such a ridiculous overreaction to any anecdote told by any candidate.
More than anything, I think it shows the desperation of Biden's opponents and critics on the left as well as the right.
Nate Silver nailed it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elocs
(22,540 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)'unfair'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Would you care to provide one, or is your answer really "pretty much nothing"?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)you don't like his policy, I don't know. Why not talk policy instead of faux gaffes and all the rest...not once have I mentioned any negative stuff about Warren...nothing I have said her policies will cause us to lose...but no personal attacks. There is a long shot chance she could be the nominee. I am not going to damage her here or on social media...but the Biden attacks which is what they are have been horrific and I consider them wrong...yes I know you have the 'right' to post as you choose but that doesn't make it a good idea...not you in particular...just generally. I am damned if I will search for one or two in particular so you can find a reason why it is 'fair'...you have seen them and have posted in them too...you know what they are...I choose not to play in the fair criticism 'game'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,147 posts)the fact is many non Biden supporters are convinced of this since Biden's support is AA and older. This would never be thought about other voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)Older, wiser people who don't want to gift the world to the far-left created entitled brats with their tax money. The "free this" and "free that" only generates record crowds of the potential recipients and socialist-tendency people who get to live in a coveted "revolution" and utopia of their dreams.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kcr
(15,313 posts)Friedersdorf, who is a right-winger, is claiming that this has generated more criticism than his claim about the Iraq War vote. This is pretty much standard Friedersdorf when it comes to political analysis. Nate Silver should stick to numbers. He's much better at that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)Link to tweet
This sounds like a pretty interesting story. Instead, frontrunner, but is a common refrain. Consider the new Axios-NewsWhip 2020 tracker that found Biden has been bombarded by negative coverage. Of the 100 stories about Biden that got the most social media attention, 77 were negative. Presumably, the same is true of cable news.
Even with the magnification of Bidens gaffe-du-jour and the flow of media admiration of Warrens surge both of which reflect a true story Bidens backers are the most committed. Nearly 65 percent of his supporters say theyll definitely support him, as opposed to just 34 percent of those who support other candidates.....
Why is it so hard for people to grasp that Biden isnt just the most electable but, rather, the candidate with positions most in line with Democrats preferences? His platform is made up of policies that poll incredibly well and his supporters arent masking their love for progressives in favor of a safe bet. They like Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden