Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBTRTN 2020 Vision: Will Biden's Campaign Die a Death of a Thousand Gaffes?
Born To Run The Numbers just posted the latest installment of its monthly "2020 Vision" feature, which provides an up-to-the minute snapshot of the Democratic Race:
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2019/09/btrtn-2020-vision-will-bidens-campaign.html
Excerpts:
"The headlines...Joe Biden remains at the head of the field nationally, with slightly lower support levels than last month, while Elizabeth Warren continues to climb, and is now tied for second with Bernie Sanders..."
"The third Democratic debate featured only ten candidates... Joe Biden came out strong in the debate but faded into gaffe mode, raising questions once again about the long term sustainability of his campaign. But he scored early on both Warren and Sanders over their 'Medicare For All' plan, and came out on the sympathetic end of a clumsy Julian Castro attack on his age. But Beto O'Rourke's passionate plea to ban assault weapons was the most powerful moment of the night."
"If the debate had ended after an hour, Biden would have won it hands down. When Julian Castro staged an inartful attack on Bidens age ('are you forgetting what you just said two minutes ago?'), Biden survived it easily (the audience gasped), but the contretemps allowed other candidates an entry point on the delicate issue of Bidens competence, which took up a fair amount of post-debate oxygen. And, Bidens 'record player' reference was certainly one of the most replayed moments of the night..."
"It seems unlikely that this debate will shake up the polls in any meaningful way...But there was a signal shift in the debate, and that was Biden on the offensive, and attacking Warren directly, a first thus far. And the overarching question remains
is Biden built to last, or will his campaign die a death of a thousand gaffes? He has a huge reservoir of goodwill, for sure. But that might not be enough..."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)for minor inconsequential things.
Just so we can nominate someone that will make it much easier for Trump to cheat and steal the election.
yeah, that's the ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
A thousand tiny cuts is meant to do specifically that and that alone. Because we must have a pony on Election Day which Trump will use to trot himself into the White House for another 4 damaging, ugly years. At everyone's expense, I might add. And then, no promises will be kept beyond bringing the country to its knees. Something that President Obama spent 8 years reversing.
Happy Days!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Link to tweet
As Waldman also wrote, Trump is waging a reelection campaign based on racism and fear, not to mention being the most prolific liar in American political history (he just passed 12,000 false or misleading claims). And what makes the focus on Bidens mouth extra aggravating is how it wipes our memories of the moronic things said by this president, as my follower @absolut_irish was so kind to remind Bidens critics.
Link to tweet
Some of these are funny. Some are worthy of a cocked eyebrow. But they are not nearly as consequential as the racist and white supremacist beliefs parroted by Trump and the right-wing echo chamber that found their way into the manifesto of the suspect in the El Paso mass shooting, who told police his target was "Mexicans. The atmosphere of menace and danger is now indisputable. Your time would be better spent worrying about the shredding of our values, ideals and the rule of law than the flubs of a particular candidate who would put an end to this shameful chapter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)They harp on Biden for every gaffe and pretend MF45 never makes them. Mainsteam media really likes the drama of MF45 and if re elected they will be harassed, intimidated and forced to censor themselves. They are supporting a deranged evil maniac over a deceit man with empathy who will stand by our constitution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Kind of like Hillarys emails.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Only has that ONE article?
Edit: Correction, it has a few more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tgards79
(1,415 posts)You only missed about 1,000 articles over 8 years....it can happen!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Other than pipe dreams, crossed fingers, and the hipster hopes of second- and third-tier candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)From "members" of his own party
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Link to tweet
How Democrats see such episodes is at the heart of the Democratic primary. One side views these sorts of typical Biden campaign-trail moments as evidence of a politician well past his prime casually sexist in a way that might have gone unremarked in, say, 1973 when he first joined the Senate. His supporters see them as good examples of why hes the lovable Democrat best-suited to beat Trump. What is clear is that the critics, who are louder and more visible online and on cable TV, have had absolutely no impact on changing Bidens status as the steady front-runner in the race.
This woke-working class divide is at the heart of the most salient fact about the Democratic primaries: Nothing has damaged Biden. Biden entered the race with about 30 percent support nationally and he has that same 30 percent today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)perhaps even worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Joe is very well equipped to take on trump the bully
Link to tweet
Trump is a bully, and Joe has been standing up to bullies his entire life, Owens said in an interview. Joes stuttering, I think, is one of the principal reasons a major, major, major reason that he is the good and compassionate and kind man that he is.
About 3 million Americans suffer from the speech impediment of stuttering, marked by involuntary repetition of sounds, syllables or words. According to the National Institute on Deafness and other Communication Disorders, most children outgrow their stutter, but for 25% of them, stuttering is a lifelong challenge.
Biden has overcome the serious stutter of his youth, but remnants of it resurface on occasions such as when he is very tired, he said in a 2016 speech. Experts on stuttering who follow him closely say they have noticed it on several occasions during the campaign, such as an interview on The View when he addressed complaints about his tendency to touch and hug women while campaigning, and an April speech in Pittsburgh launching his campaign, when he struggled with words.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OhZone
(3,212 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden