Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumTRUMP CAMPAIGN VIDEO JABS AT BIDEN'S GAFFES
Not going to post the video. But this is what we are up against.
Trump campaign video jabs at Biden's gaffes
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461788-trump-campaign-video-jabs-at-bidens-gaffes
The Trump campaign released a video Tuesday that goes after former Vice President Joe Biden for his verbal gaffes, which are interspersed with comments from various news anchors commenting about whether he has stamina to run a presidential race.
President Trump's Campaign Manager Brad Parscale tweeted out the video showing cuts of Biden's slip-ups. News anchors are then shown on screen using words like "unsteady," "shaky" or questioning whether he has the "mental and physical stamina" for the race.
Towards the end of the video, fellow 2020 rival Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) is seen saying in an interview, "There are definitely moments where you listen to Joe Biden and you just wonder."
The video ends with Biden sitting amongst an audience, with his eyes closed and seemingly asleep.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calimary
(81,110 posts)Regarding ALL our candidates.
We need to be nimble, and beat that back. ASAP, so it doesnt have time to sink in and leave an impression! We HAVE TO out-strategize these schmucks. This is no joke.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eko
(7,245 posts)You realize you just shared a hit piece from the Dump campaign don't you?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eko
(7,245 posts)All you do is post negative things on Biden, now you are doing us a service? Give me a break, at least be honest about it man. You posted a Dump hit piece on Biden because you support someone else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to Eko (Reply #5)
still_one This message was self-deleted by its author.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,910 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Link to tweet
How Democrats see such episodes is at the heart of the Democratic primary. One side views these sorts of typical Biden campaign-trail moments as evidence of a politician well past his prime casually sexist in a way that might have gone unremarked in, say, 1973 when he first joined the Senate. His supporters see them as good examples of why hes the lovable Democrat best-suited to beat Trump. What is clear is that the critics, who are louder and more visible online and on cable TV, have had absolutely no impact on changing Bidens status as the steady front-runner in the race.
This woke-working class divide is at the heart of the most salient fact about the Democratic primaries: Nothing has damaged Biden. Biden entered the race with about 30 percent support nationally and he has that same 30 percent today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,061 posts)crisis the Democrats caused
Thank-you for letting us know what the pathological liar thinks
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)they call us bed wetters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)The Biden in many people's mind, the Biden of years past, is not the Biden they're going to see between now and election day. That Biden will not be on the ticket. And I really believe that as more people see today's Biden, they're not going to be as confident in his ability to beat Trump... I'm certainly not.
The only thing I'm surprised about is that we're seeing this this early.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)about rivals on conservative sites? Every single candidate will provide them with grounds to fear-monger, smear, lie, blow things out of proportion. I am not gonna dignify the stuff by getting specific.
PS Biden was very good today on labor. Absolutely coherent, fluent, focused, no stumbling, picked up all the threads.
And you can worry, but so far, Biden has got real legs in this running.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)... I was referring to the video at the link in the OP.
I agree that every candidate is going to be smeared. But I think this attack against Biden can be particularly effective, because it is so demonstrable by those actual clips of Biden speaking.
And such a message will probably be reinforced by additional Biden appearances that people will see. Once the seed is planted, people won't miss it when it continues to happen, and it is likely to continue to happen. Which I think makes Trump vs Biden in a debate a very risky proposition.
Yes it is ironic and hypocritical that Trump could go after Biden in this way, considering his own history of muddled speech. But that doesn't mean it won't work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Link to tweet
This sounds like a pretty interesting story. Instead, frontrunner, but is a common refrain. Consider the new Axios-NewsWhip 2020 tracker that found Biden has been bombarded by negative coverage. Of the 100 stories about Biden that got the most social media attention, 77 were negative. Presumably, the same is true of cable news.
Even with the magnification of Bidens gaffe-du-jour and the flow of media admiration of Warrens surge both of which reflect a true story Bidens backers are the most committed. Nearly 65 percent of his supporters say theyll definitely support him, as opposed to just 34 percent of those who support other candidates.....
Why is it so hard for people to grasp that Biden isnt just the most electable but, rather, the candidate with positions most in line with Democrats preferences? His platform is made up of policies that poll incredibly well and his supporters arent masking their love for progressives in favor of a safe bet. They like Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)And the stuff you quoted applies to the primary, not the general. It is saying not to assume that he's leading the race merely because he is seen as most likely to beat Trump, but also because he and his positions actually have strong support among Dems... which I don't doubt, but isn't the question at hand. In fact, I am MORE supportive of the idea that people should vote for him in the primary if they genuinely think he and his positions are best than I am with the idea that we should vote for him because he's most electable.
In short, I agree with the stuff you posted, that Biden's biggest strength is not electability, but rather that people actually like Joe and his policies. What I worry about is that, while yes I think he is electable, I also think he is beatable, and I think more so than some of our other candidates.
Please also see my post #60.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,823 posts)Masquerading as a 'concern' post because 'this is what we're up against.'
Shame on you! Or did DU suddenly switch to RU????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)As were Bernie and Jane are bank robbers articles and Bernie campaign is rapey articles.
A thread I posted today about right wing jagoff Crenshaw going after Bernie had people siding with Crenshaw.
So theres that...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
As were Bernie and Jane are bank robbers articles and Bernie campaign is rapey articles.
TIA
I'll wait.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)I have never seen the articles he refers to.
Hassin Bin Sober
As were Bernie and Jane are bank robbers articles and Bernie campaign is rapey articles.
Are you saying on a message board I am not allowed to ask for a verified source?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)Is this OP in reaction to the anger?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So much for "believe women," when it comes to anything that might not be flattering to Senator Sanders campaign.
Perhaps you should read the actual words of the women you are dismissing as "crying rapey," because that sounds like the reaction they got when they tried to stop one of the worst offenders from running for office:
https://medium.com/sarahslamen/a-future-to-believe-in-95208e8ce792
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Clearly they think Biden's a real threat to Trump. Bernie, not so much.
Some GOP lawmakers would like nothing more than a democratic socialist to be the opposition's presidential nominee.
We've never had a chance to see what oppo the GOP and Russia would unload on Bernie should he ever actually be a challenger to Trump. The polls that pit Bernie against Trump never take into account that Sanders has never been the target of any negative campaigns by the GOP. In fact, he's been the beneficiary of millions in spending by GOP dark money superpacs.
All that would reverse about 30 seconds after the Convention if he actually ever got the Democratic nomination. All the oppo that they are sitting on would be leaked according to precision timing that Russia and Assange helped them hone in the 2016 General.
That is what we would be up against with Sanders as the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eko
(7,245 posts)You get that chance to hit the "delete post" button to redeem yourself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Because this post if left up will change the world! Gimme a break.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
andym
(5,443 posts)when it comes to gaffes: Revolutionary War Airports, Sharpie Weather maps, etc. Biden's gaffes are minor compared to Trump and Reagan.
Speaking of gaffes-- the "big gaffer" sure did well in the general elections against Carter and Mondale.
Which makes me think that the mean-spirited GOP ads against Biden's gaffes will blow up in their faces.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
efhmc
(14,723 posts)His gaffes are actually not only foot in mouth but lies, most of of which he can never even remember, which is not so bad but he things none of the rest of us can either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Biden's so-called gaffes will not be an issue in the general election https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/democrats-battle-each-other-trump-s-greatest-ally-time-n1042191#anchor-Whatabouthisgaffes
Thats a lot of people back there for a like an 11 oclock speech. Thats a lot of people. (Laughter.) Thats a lot. (In fact, the speech was after 2:00 pm ET.)
This Shell petrochemical plant in Beaver County, Pennsylvania I did very well here. We did very well. How many points did we win by? Does anybody know? I'll tell you. Isn't it, I think, 28 points?
That's a lot. (Trump won Beaver County by 19 points in 2016.)
I got sued on a thing called emoluments. Emoluments. You ever hear the word? Nobody ever heard of it before. They went back. Now, nobody looks at Obama getting $60 million for a book. (Obama signed his book deal in 2017, after leaving office.)
Trumps two and a half years in office definitely have changed the political and media world.
Shouldnt they also change how we cover gaffes and misstatements?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)the commenters are right. This does not belong here.
You are not convincing anyone to change their mind and vote for mr. Sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)A few days ago you had Biden as your candidate of choice. First BS then Biden then, then a few days later back to BS.
Fact is this is not a game. People are dying under trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,500 posts)I even made a screenshot of it.
Seems the Op is a bit fickle on who he supports.
Interesting...
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,848 posts)Thanks for pointing that out, she.. and that this is Not a "game.. people are dying" with the monster in power.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The asshole and chief, the ass that governs by tweets, said to Iran that the US is "Locked and Loaded".
War!
The ass is going to declare war by tweet and not go through Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)any of that water youre carrying on your pant leg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)Trump making a video about Joe Biden's gaffes is like Ted Bundy complaining about a kid who forgot to pay for a candybar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,918 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Sorry Wil E Coyote Roadrunner wins again
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... of someone walking into their best friend's house, and taking a dump in the middle of the living room. 💩💩💩 Not cool.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,803 posts)We will assemble the same against maggot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)hardest in the primaries.
Some GOP lawmakers would like nothing more than a democratic socialist to be the opposition's presidential nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I'm so glad I don't have a dog in this fight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)voted for Trump instead of Hillary Clinton.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I'm much more concerned when someone like Trump, or Russia, or Faux news takes actions in support of one of our candidates, I'm MUCH more suspicious.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)If it wasn't Biden, it would be someone else getting the same thing.
Don't pretend otherwise as you present us a with pretense of sincerity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden