Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWarren: Trump knows his Justice Department won't act and believes Congress won't either.
Impeach.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Call your rep and tell them to impeach
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Complicit? That kind of statement is so obviously bad for our team, that it knocks Warren down another couple of notches in my assessment of her ability to deliver as our candidate. Schiff is in our good old Democratic Congress, and he's got Trump twisting in the wind right now. He deserves applause, not a charge of complicity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,688 posts)don't matter. The point is, neither has done anything to at least try to stop trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Warren (and no Democrat) should ever put down our Democratic Congress. If she wants it to behave differently, that's fine, but she needs to be appropriately respectful and team-building in her messaging. If you put down your team, especially as an insider, you rob huge value from it. There can be no excuse for putting down your team.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
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of veering into a Russia-like dictatorship. I can't turn a blind eye to this. Sorry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,180 posts)You should too. Nothing that puts down Dems in Congress, our hard won, vital power hold in these tenuous times, is ever in bounds. Dems in Congress must be treated with complete respect or the message is that they don't deserve respect. It should never, ever happen. Who does Warren think she is talking to an elected body of Democratic Congress people like that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Not to its full potential. Not even close.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gulliver
(13,180 posts)I'm not saying there should be no complaints. I'm saying those complaints must not diminish our team. That can never work. It's foolish.
Even were the Congress to respond to that browbeating and impeach now, it would make them look diminished and subservient. They were elected. They have the power. They are Democrats. Respect them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Pelosi wants to wait until the numbers rise. This kind of stuff gets headlines and makes the numbers rise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gulliver
(13,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gulliver
(13,180 posts)It is never in bounds to refer to our team in that way. It costs our team power (although it may gain this Congressman some personal notoriety). Anything that costs our team power is bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)the power of our base... that swept us to a huge win in 2018... is being bled away.
Saying just wait, dont criticize is costing us power.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)And very well said
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Get every House Dem and Senate Dem in a room together now and work this out in private.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Trump's twisting in the wind. I want Republican leaders all on board the SS Trump when it goes down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,128 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)is our chump in chief "twisting in the wind"? He's still squatting in our oval office. He's still bleeding taxpayers for profit. He's still undermining the rule of law. He's still appointing more right wing kooks as judges practically every day. Please explain how this is "twisting in the wind"? This BigOleDummy wants to know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)They deserve to be called out on it. I'm glad Elizabeth said it, more need to.
It has now become "radical" to NOT demand and initiate impeachment. A large majority of Democratic voters want it now. So Pelosi is not representing Democrats by not only refusing to start, but scoffing at members like Warren that do want to represent what Democrats want. So if Pelosi is not representing Democrats, and does not feel the need to defend the rule of law, and using ALL of Democratic powers to fight for that standard, ahead of her idea that we'd win easier without a messy impeachment, which is a huge risk, and IMO achieves the opposite, I don't know who she is supposed to be fighting for. Talk about looking diminished and subservient, jeez.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gulliver
(13,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)towards myself, Warren, and others for fighting AGAINST self-defeating and invalid behaviour we would not expect from our leaders? Okay.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)So true.
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GilmourtheCat22
(3 posts)You're kidding right,? It's about time that a legitimate dem. Front runner started saying this out loud. I think every democratic Candidate should be shouting this f the mountain tops. It's this timidity and reluctance to use the power that we have is why we keep losing elections. I don't want to have a "why can't we just get along " moment with these horrible Republicans.. I. Want vengeance and justice. You know - payback.
If strongly worded press releases from Nancy Pelosi expressing her concern at trump's teachery
are enough for you then you're a lot more patient and nicer than I am. You know what concerns me is Donald Trump boasting about the size of his next inauguration crowd, wh of his next we had the chance to do something about it.
Peace.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,642 posts)mention either party. So what? If she has a different opinion than yours or Pelosis about the calculus of impeachment, shes anti/Democratic Party?
Geesh!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)They have already started the articles of impeachment.
6. How is it NOT complicit? Both sides are doing nothing. The excuses
don't matter. The point is, neither has done anything to at least try to stop trump.
Fact is The Dems can't wave a magic wand to make him gone. You are saying that all congressional Democrats are complicit.
Please tell me you are not saying this about our Congressional Democrats.
complicit
[kəmˈplisit]
ADJECTIVE
involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.
"all of these people are complicit in some criminal conspiracy
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
druidity33
(6,446 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Much, much better.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Warren has not criticized Pelosi until now. Shes waiting for a severe moment.
Every presidential candidate should be screaming on TV about this corrupt president.
And they should be echoing Warren telling Pelosi that IF she doesnt take action, Congress is complicit.
Heres why:
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,642 posts)to influence the Congress. Its leadership in my view. Shes speaking the truth and saying what needs to be said.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Maven
(10,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,688 posts)Doing nothing = complicity. Period!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Especially when the doing nothing is a fear-based political strategy.
It's hard to get people to believe in our values when we don't hold to them out of expediency.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fiendish Thingy
(15,587 posts)Pelosi could learn something from Warrens example
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Just one of the many reasons I support Elizabeth Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Six117
(205 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Tell it Elizabeth!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sprinkleeninow
(20,237 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden