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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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Bravo Elizabeth Warren fans! Exceptional on CNN. Heart + Brains (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 OP
Yes and she has been fighting for economic equality for years Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #1
She is an extremely bright and well versed, especially on economic issues and problems affecting still_one Mar 2019 #2
Am I going to have to change my preference again? femmedem Mar 2019 #3
Yes and she shot down any ageist or charisma attacks Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #7
Let the debates steer you. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #12
It all sounds so easy kennetha Mar 2019 #4
Apparently too hard for some Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #6
When ask if she would support a gas tax to deal with climate change and change incentives kennetha Mar 2019 #9
You know the politics of this. crazytown Mar 2019 #22
Don't think that is what did Mondale in really kennetha Mar 2019 #25
Not at all what she suggested. elleng Mar 2019 #11
I was very impressed with her Andy823 Mar 2019 #5
She's still on. Re: Impeachment: See what comes from Mueller report. elleng Mar 2019 #8
Thank god, a sane mind!! No impeachment no matter what is absurd Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #13
If she doesn't make it to White House, Eliz Warren for Sec. Treasury! elleng Mar 2019 #10
She is a great candidate. brer cat Mar 2019 #14
All Dem candidates are cilla4progress Mar 2019 #15
I've loved her since she first began working on the consumer protection agency a decade ago. DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #16
Of course she has! BlueWI Mar 2019 #17
I watched but was in and out of the room cooking. Did she address her call Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #18
Actually.. LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #20
Breaking up companies that have a true monopoly is a good thing. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #21
Wrong.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #23
True monopolies require barriers to entry and unfair basis of competition kennetha Mar 2019 #24
"With the antitrust laws that are already on the books crazytown Mar 2019 #29
Wrong..... Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #31
Couldn't watch it all but really liked what I saw Jarqui Mar 2019 #19
Democratic candidates. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #28
She's a good one. donkeypoofed Mar 2019 #26
I'm a Joe fan and I totally agree with you. lark Mar 2019 #27
She's fantastic! Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #30
 

Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
1. Yes and she has been fighting for economic equality for years
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:42 PM
Mar 2019

Not a recent convert like some running in this race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,130 posts)
2. She is an extremely bright and well versed, especially on economic issues and problems affecting
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:45 PM
Mar 2019

many people



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femmedem

(8,201 posts)
3. Am I going to have to change my preference again?
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:59 PM
Mar 2019

So many good choices! It's great to see this diverse crowd so enthusiastic about her.

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Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
7. Yes and she shot down any ageist or charisma attacks
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mar 2019

She was vibrant and the diverse crowd loved her.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. Let the debates steer you. nt
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:51 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
4. It all sounds so easy
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:00 PM
Mar 2019

tax and tame the rich, basically, and all our problems will go away.

Is it really that simple?

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Bradshaw3

(7,510 posts)
6. Apparently too hard for some
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:06 PM
Mar 2019

Warren gave very detailed, knowledgable and well-thought out policy proposals to deal wiht the gross and ever-wosrsening economic inequaliites in this country and what you got from it was a simplistc tax and blame the rich and all our problems will go away"?

Sheesh. It's on again - try listening with an open mind.

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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
9. When ask if she would support a gas tax to deal with climate change and change incentives
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:12 PM
Mar 2019

she said, "I'd be open to that conversation. But I'll tell you want I want. I want to tax the super rich and use that to support things we care about."

Almost an exact quote.

That's what's called dishonest demagoguery. Sorry.

I've got a new principle. My new standard for presidential candidates... complete honesty in policy proposals. In particular, I will only give money to or vote for candidates who are willing and eager to honestly and forthrightly discuss the trade offs that would be required to make their policies reality.

For example, any candidate proposing anything close to European levels of social spending who refuses to admit up front that you cannot have European levels of spending without European levels of taxation will not get my vote or my money.
The candidate has to be willing to say that if that level of social spending means introducing the sort of broad based taxation schemes, including things like value added taxes, that Europeans deploy, fine let’s do it! Otherwise said candidate won’t get a cent or a vote from me, however much I agree with them otherwise!

Similarly, any candidate who is for single payer Medicare for All and for eliminating private insurance almost entirely, but refuses to honestly discuss the transition costs, won’t get a single cent or vote from me, at least not in the primaries.

If that candidate is the last candidate standing after the primaries and I have a choice between that candidate and Trump, well that’s a different calculus, obviously. Not that my money or vote will make a huge difference. I have only one vote in one primary and even less money! But perhaps others will join in. Maybe could start a grass roots movement for policy honesty in politics!

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
22. You know the politics of this.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 02:49 AM
Mar 2019

How to lose an election:-

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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
25. Don't think that is what did Mondale in really
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:46 AM
Mar 2019

But even if it did, these are different times.

Plus Warren is a much better salesperson than Mondale ever was.

He was milquetoast she burns with white hot passion and a searing intellect.

If she added brutal honesty not just about the wealthy but about all of us and what we must do together, she might be my preferred candidate.

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elleng

(130,864 posts)
11. Not at all what she suggested.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:27 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
5. I was very impressed with her
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:02 PM
Mar 2019

She did a great job of answering all the questions, and she did a great job!

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elleng

(130,864 posts)
8. She's still on. Re: Impeachment: See what comes from Mueller report.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Thank god, a sane mind!! No impeachment no matter what is absurd
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:54 PM
Mar 2019

As this horrid human being’s polls rise. W t f .

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elleng

(130,864 posts)
10. If she doesn't make it to White House, Eliz Warren for Sec. Treasury!
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 10:15 PM
Mar 2019
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brer cat

(24,558 posts)
14. She is a great candidate.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:04 PM
Mar 2019

Intelligent, thoughtful, and inspiring.

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cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
15. All Dem candidates are
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:13 PM
Mar 2019

EXCEPTIONAL!

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DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
16. I've loved her since she first began working on the consumer protection agency a decade ago.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:18 PM
Mar 2019

After seeing her give a major speech I was blown away. I put a handmade sign on my car (all across the bumper) that said "Warren for President" and she hadn't even hinted yet that she was interested.

So glad she is now running --- but also glad to see so many other great candidates who aren't afraid to learn from Warren and other economy-smart folks like Sanders (and gun control gurus like Hillary!)

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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
17. Of course she has!
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:33 PM
Mar 2019

Who would doubt Warren's thorough grasp of the issues and general brilliance?

She's underrated and underappreciated as a candidate. She and Inslee would make a great ticket!!

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Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
18. I watched but was in and out of the room cooking. Did she address her call
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:34 PM
Mar 2019

to break up Google, Amazon and Facebook? I like her, I really do, but that was a turn-off for me and I think a complete fail as a campaign issue.

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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
20. Actually..
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:57 PM
Mar 2019

Breaking them up is a really good thing. All three of these companies need to experience a 21st Century "Ma Bell" type situation in our humble opinion.

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Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
21. Breaking up companies that have a true monopoly is a good thing.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 12:19 AM
Mar 2019

None of those qualify, so I disagree. Breaking up companies for being popular is not a really good thing.

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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
23. Wrong....
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:28 AM
Mar 2019

Facebook and Google take up over 70% of the online advertising marketplace which is a major reason why local news resources (i.e. - Online Newspapers, etc) are cutting employees left and right. Additionally, the decline in Brick and Mortar retail does have a causation effect to the rise of Amazon.

These scenarios are akin to monopolies either at the mid or maturing stage -- and its high time to break these companies up to allow competition in the marketplace.

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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
24. True monopolies require barriers to entry and unfair basis of competition
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:24 AM
Mar 2019

If there are no barriers to entry and if competition is fair mere dominance of an open fair competition is not really monopoly. If I win every game because I work harder in practice, hustle more on the field, and outwit you in coaching strategies, that’s not the kind of monopoly that needs breaking up. You just need to make yourself more competitive.

Are google and Facebook just really good at what they do or is the game rigged in their favor? That is the question.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
29. "With the antitrust laws that are already on the books
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:17 AM
Mar 2019

With we can undo big mergers that never should have been approved in the first place” Elizabeth Warren

There’s your answer. Undo anti-competitive mergers. You don’t have to prove a monopoly.

Elizabeth Warren knows this law back to front.

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Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
31. Wrong.....
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 02:12 PM
Mar 2019

"akin" to monopoly ≠ monopoly.


Edited to add: Companies are broken up by courts. Courts operate on facts, not on thoughts, wishes and feelings. Courts require proof that a monopoly exists currently and will continue, not what somebody thinks or feels about what they are "on their way" to doing.



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Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
19. Couldn't watch it all but really liked what I saw
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:57 PM
Mar 2019

It looks like the best collection of Democrat candidates of my lifetime.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
28. Democratic candidates.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:15 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lark

(23,091 posts)
27. I'm a Joe fan and I totally agree with you.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Mar 2019

Liz has the best policy rx of anyone in the race, IMO. Her wealth tax is just genius! If Joe doesn''t get in the race, Liz may capture my primary vote? Seriously I am so excited for the debates and primaries, so looking forward to hearing all the various people and their ideas to save us from the Nazi movement and policies drumpf is pushing and to move the nation forward rather than the backward direction it's now going in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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