Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum** BREAKING ** Former Ukraine prosecutor says Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/former-ukraine-prosecutor-says-hunter-biden-did-not-violate-anything/2019/09/26/48801f66-e068-11e9-be7f-4cc85017c36f_story.htmlBy Michael Birnbaum and
David L. Stern
September 26 at 11:32 AM
KIEV, Ukraine A former top Ukrainian prosecutor, whose allegations were at the heart of the dirt-digging effort by Rudolph W. Giuliani, said Thursday he believed that Hunter Biden did not run afoul of any laws in Ukraine.
From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything, former Ukrainian prosecutor general Yuri Lutsenko told The Washington Post in his first interview since the disclosure of a whistleblower complaint alleging pressure by Trump on Ukraines president, Volodymr Zelensky.
Lutsenkos comments about Hunter Biden which echo what he told Bloomberg News in May were significant because President Trump and his personal attorney Giuliani have sought to stir up suspicions about both Hunter and former vice president Joe Bidens conduct in Ukraine in recent weeks. Joe Biden is leading Trump in many opinion polls ahead of the 2020 election.
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As vice president, Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the Lutsenkos predecessor, Viktor Shokin, who Biden and other Western officials said was not sufficiently pursuing corruption cases. At the time, the investigation into Burisma was dormant, according to former Ukrainian and U.S. officials.
Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival, Lutsenko said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,355 posts)they are impeaching. Trump can't be allowed to use his power against his political rivals...it must end.K&R
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,732 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)To manufacture evidence against Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(42,674 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(11,447 posts)It appears they wanted the President of Ukraine to be part of the fraud. He would be Putin's boy then.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Throw some money around, twist arms, make promises. Just your everyday gangster maneuvering. Because they've been getting away with it.
Until now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)on the Bidens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Giuliani is now screaming he's being tortured by the on-going revelations. I guarantee you he'll finger everyone involved in this putrid mess from the top down. This isn't going to be a tight-lipped Manafort vow of silence. Rudy is losing his shit already.
And Trump? He's still trying to spin it. Perfect conversation, doncha know? And Nancy Pelosi? She's been hijacked by the radical left.
On and on it goes. They're digging their own graves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)They don't even have to make shit credible, just create the mirage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
underpants
(182,284 posts)I can hear the excuse now
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
procon
(15,805 posts)Hunter Biden and Ukraine are not topics to be sequestered away to the Primary forum. I nearly missed it. These are time critical topics that would probably get more exposure if moved to General Discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)Have you cross posted this in general discussion?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pepsidog
(6,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(12,994 posts)the apathetic young people, and people who typically don't vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pepsidog
(6,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Javaman
(62,444 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Puppyjive
(485 posts)Trump isn't smart enough to have known about Joe Biden's son and what he was doing. Putin does. This is a coverup. Everyone is focused on election fraud and impeachment, we need to focus on who benefits from pulling funding from the Ukraine and how have they have gotten so intimate with our President.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)Link to tweet
From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything, former Ukrainian prosecutor general Yuri Lutsenko told The Washington Post in his first interview since the disclosure of a whistleblower complaint alleging pressure by President Trump on Ukraines president, Volodymr Zelensky.
Lutsenkos comments about Hunter Biden which echo what he told Bloomberg News in May were significant, because Trump and his personal attorney Giuliani have sought to stir up suspicions about both Hunter and former vice president Joe Bidens conduct in Ukraine in recent weeks. Joe Biden is leading Trump in many opinion polls ahead of the 2020 election.
Hunter Biden has denied any wrongdoing, and there is no evidence he was involved in any lawbreaking in his work in Ukraine with the countrys largest private gas company.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(80,700 posts)And that tweet included here, with the Ukrainian president and trump shaking hands, what on earth should we expect the poor sap to do? Hes asked if he felt pushed, with the big capo who was the one pushing him so hard and so relentlessly SITTING RIGHT THERE? WHILE hes being asked if he felt pushed by the same big Mafia don whos sitting there literally inches away?
What the hell do you expect the poor schmuck to say? The don is as much as holding an invisible knife to his throat.
The same dynamic applied to the now-infamous transcript. You wont find trump saying here. Im bribing you to go bigtime mess up this potential rival. And you know that money you think were gonna send you? Get me some dirt on my rival or you can kiss that money goodbye.
No. trump would never do it that way. Hes all about insinuation and suggestion and staging unspoken messages and clues and tip-offs. Hes more of the gee, nice little set-up you got there, dude. Itd be a shame if something happened to it... type of manipulative mind-fucker.
And then he can look you straight in the face and lie to you that he never threatened to rough you up, rape your wife and daughter and burn your house down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Botany
(70,294 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NBachers
(17,007 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,112 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ecstatic
(32,567 posts)only on trump's crimes/extortion. Every article that comes out on this topic, good or bad, feeds into trump's mission, which was to juxtapose Biden's name alongside a scandal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kablooie
(18,572 posts)He never would have gotten his scandal even if it hadnt been revealed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)That he never used any information from Russia against her!
.....of course the reason is that the Russians couldn't find anything for him, but don't tell the MSM that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)Concoct some bogus charges against Biden's son. That's my interpretation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FloridaBlues
(3,993 posts)No evidence to back up your lies.
I haven't heard one person in real time say this to trump on his pressers !
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AllaN01Bear
(17,384 posts)i wonder if hes done it this way all his life ?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,929 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,112 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden