Excuse me?

[George II]

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/oct1vegas?fbclid=IwAR0zDrt_6HfTn67SMz_aQV6OEYNES9tkJ7WN0qLWXyLn0NomFgSlsFGLEC8

[ritapria]

1. Latest National Polls

From Reuters -Ipsos : Biden 21% Bernie 16% Warren 15% ........... From Morning Consult : Biden 32% Warren 21% Bernie 19%

[OilemFirchen]

18. Senator Sanders doesnt deserve the courtesy of a last name?

How rude.

[NurseJackie]

38. Just horrible, isn't it?

How rude.

Just horrible, isn't it?

[lapucelle]

2. A $2800 ticket for a "grassroots fundraiser"?

[BlueMississippi]

3. Must be the grassroots on the fairways of Pinehurst golf course! nt

[George II]

6. Check the details - it's a SECRET $2800 fundraiser. They won't tell you where it is until you commit

[highplainsdem]

8. Well, that's one way to keep wealthy donors from being bothered by any protesters who might

support other candidates.

Trying to recall... Which candidate's supporters have been known to show up to protest at high-dollar fundraisers for other candidates in the past?

[George II]

10. He'll be speaking to the attendees. Do you think he'll release the transcript?

[Blue_true]

12. You people are being brutal with the jokes. nt

[Eric J in MN]

20. You will probably be able to watch video of his speech

...at YouTube.

I went to a similar event in Minneapolis and Bernie 2020 posted video of Bernie's speech.

[lapucelle]

22. BS has already held a secret location grassroots fundraiser with $2800 tickets?

[Eric J in MN]

23. That's the max. People who pay $27 are treated the same.

The grassroots fundraiser in Minneapolis didn’t have a secret location.

[lapucelle]

24. Where does it say that on the Act Blue page? N/T

[Eric J in MN]

25. If there were perks for paying more then they'd list them

..to get people to pay more.

It’s the absence of that which indicates everyone is treated the same.

[lapucelle]

34. The absence doesn't indicate any such thing. The logical inference is the more you pay,

the better your seat...be it at the table (in general) or in the theatre (in this specific instance).

The whole event is couched in an uncomfortable and unnecessary secrecy.

Where's the transparency?

[Eric J in MN]

39. I went to a similar event in Minneapolis.

There were no seats inside.

I saw no evidence of anyone being treated differently based on ticket price.

[lapucelle]

40. There was a $2800 per ticket event in MN as well? N/T

[Eric J in MN]

47. The tickets were $27 to $2,800 with everyone treated the same. NT

NT

[lapucelle]

48. Was the venue kept secret from the general public? Was it a closed-door event

or was it open to the press?

[Eric J in MN]

53. The location wasn't secret. The speeches

...were filmed for YouTube. I don’t know what the press policy was.

[lapucelle]

57. So it was different than the FUNdraiser being held tonight at a secret location in Vegas.

We hope you will join us for the first-ever Bernie 2020 Grassroots FUNdraiser in Las Vegas with Senator Bernie Sanders! This event is a ticketed event, tickets can be purchased at the link above. Tickets start at $27. All ages are welcome, but an ID for 18+ will be required for entry.

WHEN
Tuesday, October 1
Event at 6:30 pm

WHERE
Location Available Upon RSVP

https://www.facebook.com/events/390361015225570/

Join us for an evening of entertainment, arts and culture, hear from and ask questions of Senator Bernie Sanders about our campaign and how to join in the political revolution.

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/oct1vegas

[Eric J in MN]

59. The description of the event was practically the same

...except that it was at a location in Minneapolis listed without buying a ticket.

[lapucelle]

60. No one under 18 was admitted at last night's FUNdraiser. There was liquor and entertainment.

Aside from the seats, the liquor, the entertainment, and the secret location, the MN and Vegas events were the same in that $2800 tickets were sold.

[Blue_true]

13. Dollar bills thrown at an SUV. I guess Bernie doesn't want that scene. nt

[highplainsdem]

15. Well, that was one of the protests, one of the more memorable ones.

Since you brought it up:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/16/politics/sanders-clinton-fundraiser-dollar-bills/index.html

[Blue_true]

11. $2800 is the maximum that can be contributed in a primary.

I contributed to Hillary in 2008, but as soon as she conceded, I contributed the max to then Senator Obama before the convention, this allowed me to contribute the max again during his fall campaign.

President Obama ran pretty much unopposed (a gadfly or two ran against him) in 2012. I contributed the max during the primary period and then contributed the max during the fall campaign. I was middleclass both times. So it is possible for reasonably well paid middleclass people to buy Bernie's $2800 ticket and not be some country club snob.

[Tipperary]

30. To be fair, you can pay less.

I am no fan of Sanders, but there were several levels of ticket prices.

[TidalWave46]

31. Not currently. NT

[Tipperary]

36. The link showed levels all the way down to $27,

which was conveniently sold out.

[TidalWave46]

37. Exactly. NT

[BlueMississippi]

4. Is ActBlue in the tank for BS or do they do these for all candidates? nt

[Eric J in MN]

21. Act Blue serves any candidate running in

...a Democratic Primary or as the Democratic nominee.

[NYMinute]

5. And I thought it would be a flat $27 for all

I suppose some are more equal than others as Churchill said.

[Blue_true]

14. $27 wouldn't buy a half washed glass at one of those things.

Have you seen what's on the menu at a Bernie campaign fete?

[BlueMississippi]

26. uh oh

Don't tell me it is Pâté de foie gras and Sevruga caviar with drinks, farm to table caprese salad, then real japanese Kobe beef filet or fresh Atlantic salmon and stuff?

[Blue_true]

49. Sounds what normal working people eat, eh? nt

[BlueMississippi]

55. They serve that stuff on chartered Delta airlines jets from NY to Rome and back. nt

[Blue_true]

58. Wow. nt

[highplainsdem]

7. The Sanders campaign sent out a fundraising email today saying they don't do high-dollar fundraisers

according to some tweets I've seen this evening:


Here's two from a Harris supporter, commenting on that Sanders fundraiser asking for $2800:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

They collect $2,800 checks. We receive donations averaging $19.

[George II]

9. I got that email last night, and have received several over the past few weeks....

....saying just about the same. A screen shot of part of the email:

[melman]

16. That twitter person seems very rational

#fuckBernie in her bio. And I see she has a pinned tweet from a notorious anti-Semite.

[highplainsdem]

17. Don't know anything about her other than the two tweets I linked to and the KHive reference

in her bio.

I jusr saw the first tweet I linked to retweeted by Chris Evans, whom she'd replied to.

I found Evans' tweets about this when I searched Twitter for

bernie fundraiser las vegas

[BlueMississippi]

27. Twitter is the key word.

One can go much farther in language on twitter than what is allowed here. Doesn't mean such sentiments don't exist, they are just not expressed. (PS - I don't mean the antisemitic part)

[George II]

33. That's simply not true. That person doesn't have ANY pinned tweets as far as I can see:

https://twitter.com/KimDeBarge

Want to try again?

[melman]

42. Pinned tweet, top retweet...

...whatever. That particular tweeter is a vile bigot and all decent people know it.

[George II]

43. Pinned tweets are entirely different from retweets, but that's your opinion...

...about the tweeter. It's not a universal opinion.

Regardless, what does any of that have to do with the fact that Sanders is soliciting "big donors" (as he puts it when talking about other candidates), contradicting what he says repeatedly in his emails to potential donors?

[melman]

44. " It's not a universal opinion."

It's not an opinion at all it's a documented fact. As you well know.

[George II]

45. Not its not fact, as you well know.

[melman]

46. It certainly is

That tweeter is well known to be a raging anti-Semite. Their defenders deny it but there is proof and you KNOW it.


Done here.

[lapucelle]

35. She does seem very rational. N/T

[Eric J in MN]

19. Attendees are treated the same

...whether they donate $27 or $2,800.

[BlueMississippi]

28. Nice deflection

The issues is accepting the $2,800 in the first place while BS criticizes other candidates from doing exactly the same.

[George II]

32. The point is that at least once a week he sends out an email, maybe two or three....

....saying he doesn't accept $2800 checks from his contributors. But now we see in black and white (and blue) that he solicits $2800 checks and DOES accept checks for $2800.

Why does he say one thing and do another?

PLUS, the location of the event is secret, one doesn't get the address until one makes a contribution.

[PhoenixDem]

29. Such hypocrisy

BS has criticized other candidates for doing exactly the same thing!

[Hortensis]

41. The 0 ticket sales above the cheapest reminds me of studies

of those Democrats who donate $200 or more to more than one primary candidate to get them kicked off (thus being identified to the FEC and useful for study). Turns out, those typically sophisticated and affluent (but not wealthy) donors very strikingly excluded Sanders from their lists of those to donate to.

Very explainable when pointed out. He is a type of his own, and those people know he's not an alternative to the others. Also, sophisticated donors wouldn't have misunderstood or forgiven his "donations" to 2016.

[brooklynite]

51. There's nothing that indicates there have been "0" ticket sales above 27...

This is a form you fill out to needed quantity. The campaign put a limit on the $27 tickets and not the others.

[Hortensis]

52. Sorry, ahead of myself. That's the usual pattern for these things.

People who pay $100, much less more, are at events for viable Democratic candidates.

[PhoenixDem]

56. Ohhhh but the audacity of trying to get the big donations!!

Speaks volumes

[brooklynite]

50. As someone who will never give a penny to Sanders' Primary campaign, this doesn't bother me...

It's clearly target towards low-dollar (by the standards of fundraising events) donors. The $2800 level is included because it's a legal option. However, there's apparently no special consideration for high dollar donors (usually, there'd be a "VIP reception" or photoline for the top dollar people).

[cwydro]

54. Thank you.

I don’t care for Sanders at all, but this thread is clearly just a pile on Bernie thread.