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Minnesotans like Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar. She was reelected in the purple state in 2018 by 24 points, and in January Morning Consult polling found her to be one of the most popular senators in the country.
She's hoping that strong support in her home state which happens to be in the upper Midwest, neighboring states where Donald Trump carved his path to victory can translate into support from primary voters looking for someone who can beat President Trump as they choose the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee.
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/19/703570750/amy-klobuchar-runs-on-a-record-of-accomplishments-including-with-republicans
I like Amy Klobuchar!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Not to excuse being tempery toward staff, but bad behaviors of this type have to result in lawsuits or injury to be reported for male politicians, and in the past not even then. And even today they're at most severely underreported for men.
Not at all like the nationwide saturation allegations against Klobuchar have received and will continue to as long as she's in the race. Could your single--female target reaction on this issue be a measure of its effectiveness?
Which of our male candidates ask staffers to pick up clean shirts on the way in to the office? And why don't we know the answer?
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USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and how about all the others? And if Biden did irritably throw a drink container toward someone, would that seem as bad as Klobuchar doing it? (Maybe it'd help to imagine his nice face crinkling into an evil-witch mode while doing it. Visualize one of the many scary-unflattering pictures enemies are and will be posting of her if needed.)
This matters to me too and is a big mark by her name, but still being evaluated. I once was influenced enough by McCain's press to wonder if he'd not be so bad as president, and the answer was an emphatic no for a bunch of reasons. But one was his filthy, abusive, dangerously strong temper that in itself would have crossed him off my list.
Reaction should be equal for both men and women, and it's not. We don't know about our other candidates because they're not vetted and blasted for female crimes. And there are many ways of being abusive. Kerry reportedly could be a really mean bastard even if he never threw anything (nothing reported is all we know) -- noted because he offended upper-level men, not because of a blizzard of national coverage about behaviors toward low-level staffers.
And Bernie Sanders is famous for being a grumpy grandfatherly type, an image pushed by the press, not for the reality that he is habitually bad tempered and often abusive to employees, and others, as many have reported yet almost no one seems to know. Or at least care to remember in him.
THIS is from 2015. Not new news then, and yet it's never been Klobuchar-type "news" at all:
.... "As a supervisor, he was unbelievably abusive," says one former campaign staffer, who claims to have endured frequent verbal assaults. The double standard was clear: "He did things that, if he found out that another supervisor was doing in a workplace, he would go after them. You can't treat employees that way."
Like several others quoted in this column, the campaign worker would speak only on the condition of anonymity, saying that to do otherwise would constitute "career suicide" in a small state such as Vermont. But others echoed the former employee's story, saying the senator is prone to fits of anger.
"Bernie was an asshole," says a Democratic insider who worked with Sanders on the campaign trail. "Just unnecessarily an asshole." "He yelled in meetings all the time," says one of Sanders' former Senate staffers. ...
Victims of his management style aren't entirely negative about their former boss.
"I think he's got a ton of conviction," the same former Senate staffer says. "I just think he's kind of harsh to a fault. He's so focused on his issues that he doesn't have a softer side. I don't think he's a very nice man."
A former House staffer put it more diplomatically: "If there's a thing that I think is regrettable about Bernie, in the end, his soft touch is lacking." ...
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/anger-management-sanders-fights-for-employees-except-his-own/Content?oid=2834657
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USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to have it no longer matter? I never suggested accusations of abusive behaviors shouldn't be carefully evaluated for actual extent and considered in evaluating candidates.
Only that we shouldn't allow Republicans to manipulate the gender-bigoted attitudes inculcated in all of us to various degrees to take out our own female candidates.
Also, since this issue is being discussed, don't we have a duty to look at the issue and to put her behavior in context of that of her peers, the vast majority of whom are men?
Interestingly, the number of women Republicans in the house has declined to 13 out of 197 (!) this year. Perhaps that's because they're putting them all on pedestals and worshipping them instead, but shouldn't we examine and evaluate the attitudes behind this?
Not just let the white male supremacy party turn us like pistols on women they want to take out and pull our triggers. That would be contemptible -- in us.
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Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Same topic. Who cares? People who are oblivious to the big picture will make any trivial matter the number one obsession and not let go.
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it'll up all our games. Or something. Discussion benefits from thoughtful and honest posts from all viewpoints.
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)when she had Senator Klobuchar on her show. She's known her for some time and practically gushed over her accomplishments and what she likes about her.
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oasis
(49,378 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden