Nina Turner just said it on the Rev's show.

[SCVDem]

Bernie Sanders and his campaign support Tulsi.

Are there any Democrats in that campaign?

[Me.]

1. Support Her For What?

President?

[SCVDem]

3. In general

against Hillary.

[sheshe2]

8. Did anyone explain to Nina and Tulsi....

Did anyone explain to Nina and Tulsi that Hillary is not running?

[LakeArenal]

9. Did anyone mention to Tulsi that she outed herself?

Hillary gave no name.

[sheshe2]

59. ;)

[NurseJackie]

66. It's simple. Nina Turner likes ANYONE who hates Democrats and the Democratic party.

It's simple. Nina Turner likes ANYONE who hates Democrats and the Democratic party. This is why she has such an affinity for people like Jill Stein, Cenk Uygur, Michael Moore, Cornel West, David Sirota, Susan Sarandon, etc... and why she admires groups and orgs like TYT, Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, etc.

All I'm trying to say is... if anyone wants Nina Turner's approval and support, all they need to do is say anything that denigrates or smears Democrats or the Democratic party... and boy-howdy, she's gonna be right there with words of support and bringing up the rear flank. She's not known for being loyal to the party. In fact, she even boasted (threatened?) that the "Our Revolution" group would support Republicans over Democrats.

It's just that that type of negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

[sheshe2]

67. This exactly.

It's just that that type of negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

Massive turnout is needed now more than ever before. Lives are at stake as is our Democracy.

[Uncle Joe]

4. I imagine supporting her in not being smeared as a "Russian asset." n/t"

[Hekate]

11. Hillary mentioned NO NAME. Funny how Tulsi herself squalled like a scalded cat.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

[Uncle Joe]

19. Hillary didn't have to mention a name.

(snip)

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, speaking on a podcast with former Obama adviser David Plouffe. "She's the favorite of the Russians."

Clinton never names Gabbard, but there are only five women running for President -- Gabbard, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and author Marianne Williamson -- and none of the other woman have been accused of being boosted by Russia.

Clinton did not provide proof about how Russia is "grooming" Gabbard. She and her team pointed to allegations that Russian news and propaganda sites often report on Gabbard's campaign and that moments in Gabbard's campaign have been reportedly amplified by trolls and bots on Twitter with ties to Russia. Gabbard has denied those allegations.

(snip)

Clinton's team also noted that some of Gabbard's foreign policy views align closely with Russian interests.

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard/index.html

[at140]

28. That is pretty much what I am reading in news

But what are the chances Hillary jumps in at the last minute?
If she does not, it is a mute question.

[Uncle Joe]

32. If Biden suddenly collapses politically speaking and perhaps

one or two of the other more conservative candidates fall by the wayside, I believe there is a small possibility that Hillary will throw her hat in the ring.

I also believe that would be a major miscalculation by Hillary if she does.

Regardless I don't believe this was becoming of a major political leader in the race and even more so for one not in it of Hillary's stature.

[at140]

45. If she had posted that thought on DU, her post would have been removed

for disparaging a democratic candidate running for president.
You are not allowed to disparage ANY democratic candidate, name stated or not.

[lapucelle]

53. Here's the exact quote.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate."

No one was named; nor did Secretary Clinton say that the person was willing or even aware. After all, Russia has been known to target useful idiots.

Clinton's team also noted that some of Gabbard's foreign policy views align closely with Russian interests.

Why was Tulsi so immediately defensive, and why did Nina so immediately choose sides?

Interesting

[Quixote1818]

65. Hillary's aide Nick Merrill confirmed it was Gabbard

When asked if Clinton was referring to Gabbard, the Clinton aide Nick Merrill said, “If the nesting doll fits …”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/hillary-clinton-elevating-tulsi-gabbard/600370/

[StarfishSaver]

13. Hillary also didn't say she was a "Russian asset"

That's a bs claim being put out there by Gabbard and her supporters.

Hillary said the Russians have a favorite in the race whom they're grooming to run as a third party candidate. She never said she is an asset or an operative or anything of the sort. She actually suggested the Russians are targeting her to be used, not to be knowingly complicit.

For all we know, she may be trying to warn Gabbard to watch her back.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Hillary trashed Tulsi as at best being an unwitting Russian tool, if

Hillary had solid evidence, she could've e-mailed Tulsi.

Throwing this shit out there for public consumption during a primary campaign was in no way, shape or form a friendly "warning" for Tulsi to watch her back," it was just a means to undermine and discredit her campaign even if it is a long shot.

[brush]

21. I don't recall her mentioning any names. Gabbard must have a guilty conscience.

[Uncle Joe]

22. Hillary didn't have to mention any names.

(snip)

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, speaking on a podcast with former Obama adviser David Plouffe. "She's the favorite of the Russians."

Clinton never names Gabbard, but there are only five women running for President -- Gabbard, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and author Marianne Williamson -- and none of the other woman have been accused of being boosted by Russia.

Clinton did not provide proof about how Russia is "grooming" Gabbard. She and her team pointed to allegations that Russian news and propaganda sites often report on Gabbard's campaign and that moments in Gabbard's campaign have been reportedly amplified by trolls and bots on Twitter with ties to Russia. Gabbard has denied those allegations.

(snip)

Clinton's team also noted that some of Gabbard's foreign policy views align closely with Russian interests.

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard/index.html

[brush]

25. Look at it as a way to head off anyone running a 3rd party campaign which would...

help trump. Hillary is not fool. She knows what she's doing. And her an Bill have much, much better intel as to who is backing who than any of us setting at our keyboards.

The election could be so close that another Jill Stein-type camdidate could siphon off just enough votes from the Dem candidate for trump to win again.

And let's just be frank. Gabbard has no fucking chance at all of getting the Dem nod and is hardly worth all the angst. Do you ever wonder what her angle is, if she's really a Democrat? What other Democrat has support from Breitbart, Bannon, Russiat Today radio, ex-KKKer David Duke and appears on FOX reularly to bash Dems? She sure seems like a mole to me.

Hillary did the right thing in warning against a 3rd party candidate and in so doing made it really hard for anyone, be it Gabbard or someone else, to try it.

[Uncle Joe]

29. I have seen absolutely no evidence that Tulsi is even remotely considering

a third party run.

If Hillary had evidence that such a thing was being considered, she could've sent a private email to Tulsi warning her of "Russian bots" pushing for a third party run.

If Tulsi decides in the future (which I highly doubt) to make a third party run because of "Russian bots," Hillary could publish the email for public consumption.

This was just a smear job.

[brush]

35. Let's just be frank. Gabbard has no fucking chance at all of getting the...

Dem nod and is hardly worth all the angst. Don't you ever wonder what her angle is, if she's really a Democrat? What other Democrat has support from Breitbart, Bannon, Russia Today radio, Russian bots all over the internet, ex-KKKer David Duke and appears on FOX regularly to bash Dems? Come on. She sure seems like a mole to me.

Hillary did the right thing in publicly warning against a 3rd party candidate and in so doing made it really hard for anyone, be it Gabbard or someone else, to try it.

Politics is not bean bags.

[Uncle Joe]

38. Precisely "politics is not bean bags," so why are people upset with Tulsi's rebuttal

against Hillary?

[brush]

43. Hillary did the right thing IMO. She made it hard for a 3rd partier to try it.

Gabbard has long been suspected as being, and I'm being kind using this term, a DINO. Many are even harsher with descriptions of her.

It's no loss to this party if she's upset as she'll be out of the race soon and hopefully her seat in the House as well as she has a strong challenger for her seat.

We don't need Dems who are supported more by the right than by Dems.

[StarfishSaver]

44. I'm not upset about it all

I'm glad she showed the world how unfit she is for any office of public trust.

[Dem4Life1102]

51. Why are you so upset?

Is it just hatred of Clinton or something else Uncle Joe?

[emulatorloo]

52. Tulsi's "rebuttal" was a greatest hits of rightwing/Putin lies about HRC, and Tulsi couldn't wait

to run to Fox News and appear on Tucker Carlson. Sorry Senator Gabbard outed herself

Link to tweet

All of that is pretty revealing.

Additionally Russia Today is actively promoting Tusli’s rant.

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

61. Not upset, disgusting as it was.

She showed her true colors...then ran straight into Tucker Carlson's arms at Fox. What does that tell you, Uncle Joe?

She was not named and yet she named herself.

[StarfishSaver]

23. What proof does Tulsi have that Hillary is "the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption,

personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long," and is behind a "concerted effort" to destroy Gabbard's reputation?

If Gabbard didn't like what Hillary said, couldn't she simply have emailed her privately instead of unleashing a torrent of unhinged and unsupported accusations - you know, "throwing that shish out there for public consumption"?

[Uncle Joe]

24. This isn't a question of the chicken and the egg,

we know which came first.

[StarfishSaver]

30. Tulsi can't play the "But she hit me first!" game

since she's been going after Hillary for years. She even threw in an unnecessary dig at her during the debate the other night.

[SCVDem]

41. A little harsh, eh?

I'm waiting for the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man to show up.

[betsuni]

62. +1

[Cha]

33. Gabbard lost it @ Madame POTUS.. Trash talking.. and went all paranoid..

No excuses for TG..

Link to tweet

[Uncle Joe]

37. What would Tulsi know about political machinations, she was only a Vice-Chair of the DNC?

[Cha]

39. gabbard is trashing talking Hillary.. TG is paranoid.. not "presidential"

[Evergreen Emerald]

48. Yes. Lets stick our heads in the sand again

How dare she warn us.

[lapucelle]

58. Secretary Clinton said that she thinks that the Russians

have their eye on someone.

I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate.

What Secretary Clinton said was meant as a warning to Democrats and the media. It was also a shot across Russia's bow.

And it was strategically brilliant in terms of helping to ensure that there will be a Democrat in the White House in 2021.

[lapucelle]

63. Where exactly did Secretary Clinton "trash" Tulsi?

I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate.

Out of these two options, which is more reasonable?

1. Secretary Clinton wants to undermine and discredit a candidate who has no chance of winning.

2. Secretary Clinton wants to warn against Russian sabotage (just like she did in October 2016).

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. Personally, I have no trust for Gabbard. But for the record Hillary also said this:

That's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset," Clinton said. "[

The emphasis is mine. That sentence is just vague enough to argue over what it means, but to my ear stating that Stein is running as a third party candidate, after saying that Gabbard want to, and then saying that Stein is also a Russian asset implies that Gabbard is another one.

[StarfishSaver]

40. Wow - that's a stretch.

But if someone's looking for an excuse to go after Hillary, I guess that will have to do.

Now. Let's do Tulsi ... Do you think it was helpful or fair or reasonable for her to call Hillary Clinton "the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long," and accuse her of being behind a "concerted effort" to destroy Gabbard's reputation?

That doesn't need any extrapolation or interpretation ...

[at140]

46. You would make a very good trial lawyer...eom

[melman]

16. Exactly

As all decent people should.

[OldRed2450]

42. It's not a smear if it's true.

[TidalWave46]

57. Interesting?

Which campaigns were thrown an assist by the Russians in the last presidential primary. Surprised to see you state that as you did.

[Cha]

27. For gutter trash talking Madame POTUS..

Hillary Clinton!

[Hekate]

2. I had to mute her, so thanks for the report. I kind of read that statement as: Hillary hatred....

Last edited Sat Oct 19, 2019, 06:20 PM - Edit history (1)

... Hillary hatred really runs that deep. Which is just kind of stunning.

Anyway, the Rev is now doing Elijah Cummings.

[trueblue2007]

7. Bernie's best friend is Nina Turner. in 2016, Turner hated on Hillary and lied about her.

I always mute Turner now. I just don't trust her anymore to speak for Democrats. I think she's a negative influence on BS

[evertonfc]

5. support

Face it. Hillary should not have made the statement that somehow associates Tulsi with Putin. I don't support Tulsi but I can see how other Democrats would take issue. I mean, Hillary isn't the leader of our party and should know better than to create this drama now. We will need her supporters in 2020. Talk about wasted energy

[SCVDem]

6. Private citizen

Hillary Clinton has no first amendment rights?

Tulsi goes to Howdi Modi which is a campaign event for tRump.

tRump is beholden to pUtin so Tulsi is connected to pUtin.

PM Modi also violated the laws of India by being involved in American politics.

Small world.

[still_one]

15. +++

[BlueMississippi]

36. All is true except PM Modi violated anything

He held a rally of Indian-Americans which Trump wanted to crash and no one could refuse a POTUS from attending.

[at140]

47. See post #31...eom

[LakeArenal]

10. Ah. No. Speak more Hillary. Actually name names.

Tulsi Gabbard outed herself.
Simple as that. Tulsi focused Hillary’s statement and therefore the press on herself.

Tulsi made me see statements she's made in the past that I hadn’t read.

Tulsi made it an issue with Hillary.

[brush]

20. Hillary didn't mention any names. Seems Gabbard has a guilty conscience if she...

assumed she was the suspected Russian asset.

She outed herself.

[nini]

55. Hillary wouldn't have made a comment like that if she didn't know stuff

She knows stuff.

[still_one]

12. Thank you for confirming what we already knew about that campaign

[oasis]

14. Nina bailed on Hillary during her 2016 campaign to join Bernie. Tulsi

bailed on her position as DNC deputy chair in 2016 to join Bernie.

Birds of a feather.

[brush]

18. Of course they do. Birds of a feather and all that.

He must secretly not want the nomination because backing the unpopular Gabbard is one quick way to lose support. And it makes little sense in another way. She has such little support, what does it get him when she drops out? The few people who may come over to him from her camp? There aren't very many of them.

[ismnotwasm]

26. Of course she did

This shit is funny AF. All kinds of asses hanging out now.

Hillary is a queen.

[BlueMississippi]

34. Bernie is not a Democrat

He should drop out or be kicked out unless he disavows comments by Nina Turner followed by firing Nina Turner.

[SCVDem]

60. That's what worries me.

Not a Democrat means a division.

We have endured too much of that!

[Cha]

49. Just from a practical aspect, Hillary has a 80% favorable rating among Democratic primary voters

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[nini]

50. Like I've said..Tulsi is NOT the only one

Pay attention folks - It's not just the GOP that has been infiltrated by Putin's posse.

The writing has been on the wall - people need to start reading it and quit thinking it won't happen like it is.

[TidalWave46]

54. Stein voter supporting a Russian asset. NT

[BigmanPigman]

56. I just read the comments about Tulsi

from Bill Maher's Real Time/Overtime. She apparently is everyone's hero since she is a vet and not a "warmonger" like Hillary. Every comment supported Tulsi and bitched about Hillary. Where are the real Dems?

[LakeArenal]

64. Bill Maher is no Democrat. He's a jerk tho.

[NurseJackie]

68. I remember when he told Milo whoozits that "he had a point there"

I remember when he told Milo whoozits that "he had a point there" and agreed with him when he was spewing his bigoted anti-transgender venom.