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Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:56 AM Nov 2019

It's exremely unlikely that Harris, being qualified for the Nov. debate, will drop out anytime soon

Beto O'Rouke was struggling to meet the requirement and he suspended his campaign. It's looking like Castro and Gabbard won't qualify by the deadline of the 13th. Harris and Buttigeig are each one poll shy of meeting the requirement to be invited for the December debate. It's very unlikely, unless something drastic happens, that Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, Julián Castro, Andrew Yang, Tom Steyer and Tulsi Gabbard will qualify for the December debate.

I think it's quite premature to start talking about Harris dropping out when she has the polls and donors to have qualified for the November debate while other candidate still running don't and she's very close to meeting the higher standards to qualify for the December debate.

There will be a number of candidates dropping out soon but IMHO, Harris won't be one of them.

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aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
1. These things usually come down to money in the bank.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:04 AM
Nov 2019
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hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
3. I agree.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:11 AM
Nov 2019

Gabbard will probably get a last minute "infusion" if you know what I mean. I'll leave the rest unstated.

I'd particularly like to see Amy Klobuchar qualify so her voice is added to the debate.

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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
7. How does one get an "infusion" of poll numbers? (n/t)
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:45 PM
Nov 2019
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hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
8. Have you never used/heard the term INFUSION OF MONEY? REALLY?
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:49 PM
Nov 2019

or are you trying to make some bizarre point?

Money buys views buys attention buys the kind of support she is likely to need, including in the one remaining poll.


Really? Do you not get this?

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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
9. Infusion of cash, sure. But a "last minute infusion" of cash would not be a reliable way...
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:24 PM
Nov 2019

...to make the difference in her getting another qualifying poll figure between now and November 13. (Do we even know which states will have qualifying polls done between now and then? I don't think so.)

Also, if there were "shadow forces" willing to toss money at her campaign in order to get her numbers up as you imply (even assuming such a strategy would work), why haven't they done it yet? She already missed one debate for not qualifying. Where were they then, and what are they waiting for? Sounds like conspiracy theory stuff to me.

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hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
13. There has been signficant reporting that they HAVE. I don't know where you've been
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 02:10 PM
Nov 2019

or if you are merely a devout Gabbard supporter but you've missed quite a bit and frankly, your support is misplaced. Of course, Jill Stein had her supporters too, and similarly had cash infusions from sources whose motives were at best questionable.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html
Then there is 4chan, the notoriously toxic online message board, where some right-wing trolls and anti-Semites fawn over Ms. Gabbard, calling her “Mommy” and praising her willingness to criticize Israel. In April, the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates.
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An independent analysis of the Russian news media found that RT, the Kremlin-backed news agency, mentioned Ms. Gabbard frequently for a candidate polling in single digits, according to data collected by the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a group that seeks to track and expose efforts by authoritarian regimes to undermine democratic elections.


https://www.axios.com/tulsi-gabbard-right-wing-conservative-social-media-boost-7fc331ea-842f-4dca-9c3f-047d00ba24b9.html
Tulsi Gabbard is getting a boost from conservatives online


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/06/tulsi-gabbard-debate-alt-right/
Internet Trolls Are Raving About Tulsi Gabbard’s Debate Performance—And They’re Calling Her “Mommy”
The Hawaii Democrat continues to draw support from elements of the alt-right.

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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. I totally agree
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:25 AM
Nov 2019

Those who keep putting out the meme that she is done, don't know what they are talking about.

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mopinko

(70,023 posts)
5. if i were her, i would do everything to hang on till s carolina.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:34 AM
Nov 2019

if her sorority sisters are gonna be a force, they will show themselves there.
there could be a lot goin on under the radar.
i hope she can tough it out.

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
6. Especially if Biden doesn't win Iowa, NH or Nevada, then SC could come in play for Harris.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:22 PM
Nov 2019
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Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
12. Harris is keeping her staff intact and offices open in South Carolina.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 02:10 PM
Nov 2019
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IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
10. Good. I donated this morning.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:52 PM
Nov 2019
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Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
11. I've been donating every month and will continue to do so.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 02:06 PM
Nov 2019
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riversedge

(70,092 posts)
14. I hope she stays in as long as she can
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 02:51 PM
Nov 2019
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. I hope she stays in.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 03:23 PM
Nov 2019

I like her a lot.

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