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Raster

(20,998 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:42 PM Nov 2019

Tulsi Gabbard Drops a Big Hint About Running a Spoiler Campaign for Trump

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/tulsi-gabbard-third-party-campaign-russia-spoiler.html

“Hillary Clinton emerged recently to claim, with no basis in fact, that I am being ‘groomed’ by the Russian government to undermine America,” claims Tulsi Gabbard in a Wall Street Journal op-ed today. In fact, as even the conservative Washington Examiner acknowledges, Clinton did not say that. She said Republicans were grooming Gabbard. And far from refuting that charge, everything about Gabbard’s op-ed confirms Clinton was probably right.

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What is very clear, however, is that Gabbard is now working hand in hand with the Republican party. This is apparent in her pattern of working closely with Republican-controlled media, like “Hill TV” — John Solomon’s propaganda outlet — and Sean Hannity. Gabbard used both forums to promote Republican talking points discrediting the impeachment process — i.e., “Most people reading through that transcript are not going to find that extremely compelling cause to throw out a president that won an election in 2016” — before eventually reversing course.

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This could be an argument for Democrats to nominate Gabbard. But it’s not exclusively an argument for that purpose. It could just as well be turned into an argument for Gabbard as a second “Democratic” candidate running against Trump, using a familiar Ralph Nader/Jill Stein case that the Democrats are going to fail, so you should vote instead for the superior alternative to the GOP.

In the following paragraph, Gabbard makes her strategy even more apparent. “Whether Mrs. Clinton’s name is on the ballot or not,” she writes, “her foreign policy will be, as many of the Democratic candidates adhere to her doctrine” of endless regime change, etc. Gabbard is saying right now that any Democratic nominee is going to be Hillary Clinton. What does that tell you about her intentions?

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Tulsi Gabbard Drops a Big Hint About Running a Spoiler Campaign for Trump (Original Post) Raster Nov 2019 OP
She seems obsessed with HRC BigMin28 Nov 2019 #1
She does, doesn't she... Raster Nov 2019 #2
That's 'cause she is. Cha Nov 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #3
She's at 3%. All this HRC stuff does is get her more press. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #4
Follow the money C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #5
discussed at... thesquanderer Nov 2019 #6
Another self-important Ralph Nader/Bernie Sanders spoiler. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #8
How much is gabbard worth to putin? Cheap buy at any price? empedocles Nov 2019 #9
Whoever is the Democratic nominee and their surrogates should point out she will end up kimbutgar Nov 2019 #10
Agreed. Raster Nov 2019 #11
 

BigMin28

(1,176 posts)
1. She seems obsessed with HRC
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:49 PM
Nov 2019

Why can't she let it go? Clinton is not running. The only person who seems more obsessed with Sec. Clinton is the Dimwit in Chief.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. She does, doesn't she...
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:50 PM
Nov 2019

...IMHO, Gabbard has had more than her 15 minutes. It's time for her to move along.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,029 posts)
7. That's 'cause she is.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 06:25 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Raster (Original post)

 

oldsoftie

(12,516 posts)
4. She's at 3%. All this HRC stuff does is get her more press.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 05:52 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
8. Another self-important Ralph Nader/Bernie Sanders spoiler.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 06:37 PM
Nov 2019

Another self-important Ralph Nader/Bernie Sanders spoiler.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
9. How much is gabbard worth to putin? Cheap buy at any price?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:00 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

kimbutgar

(21,103 posts)
10. Whoever is the Democratic nominee and their surrogates should point out she will end up
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 08:27 PM
Nov 2019

Being Nader and Jill Stein giving the election to repukes. We all want MF45 out voting for her will give the fascist another 4 years. It has to be repeated regurgitated, lathered and rinsed that she will be the spoiler giving the election to MF45. When you vote for her you are voting for MF45. Pound into every Democratic voters head.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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