About a year ago, Biden gave Bush a medal and a shirt.

[Eric J in MN]

Video of Joe Biden telling George W. Bush in November 2018 that he’s going to give him a medal and also a Philadelphia Eagles shirt:
https://www.facebook.com/cbsphilly/posts/737016656644041/

Overview:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/416185-biden-presents-liberty-medal-to-george-and-laura-bush-bush-was

// Joe Biden wasn’t VP last year. He didn’t have to give Bush anything.

[Kurt V.]

1. It's a ruling class thing.

[msongs]

2. oh no, joe talks to a former president. what next? nt

[Skittles]

3. I dunno

maybe he plays nice with another warmongering bastard?

[zaj]

4. At this point, wouldn't we all give Bush a medal?

I couldn't imagine anything worse than Bush. Until Trump showed up.

In genuine defense of Biden, he's trying to win over the middle, exhausted independent voters who would love to have Bush back. It's a reasonable and perhaps essential strategy.

[Eric J in MN]

5. I wouldn't. Bush and Trump are both bad. NT

NT

[zaj]

13. Not even on the same planet... And Bush was the worst...

Bush was horrible.... Much worse than "bad" IMO.

But Trump is seeking to end American democracy and create an American political system controlled by the Russian mafia through the Republicans Party.

So, there isnt much comparison.

[StevieM]

14. Well Bush certainly didn't show much respect for democracy when he stole the 2000 election. (eom)

[zaj]

26. God, I hate this discussion...

... because Bush was HORRIBLE as President. He was stupid, selfish, manipulative, dangerous. He let Dick Cheney run wild and caused untolled death, economic damage and pain. He helped build the political framework that lead to Mitch McConnell and Trump.

All of that is true.

And still, Trump is exponentially worse.

We are teetering on the verge of a collapsed Democracy controlled by a collection of violent white-supremacists, criminally corrupt politicians, cartoonishly evil billionaires, and religious extemists.

Drawing any sincere equivilancy between today and the Bush era is .... dangerously naive.

[dflprincess]

33. No, we would not.

Trump happened because Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes got away with their crimes.

Imagine how bad it will get if Trump gets away with his.

[Skittles]

38. no, we WOULDN'T

people still die EVERY DAY because of that warmongering bastard W - and I don't appreciate ANYONE coddling up to him

[Cha]

6. Haha.. trying to smear the frontrunner I see..

Won't work.

We want to beat trump.. not handwring over who Biden gave a medal to. I don't like it.. but, it's not going to stop me from supporting Biden who I think is the best to beat the psycho... And, who I like for the job.. exponentially more than your candidate.

[nini]

11. This OP is a bit of a stretch to say the very least.

My God.. Michelle Obama loves W.. It confuses me but I still love her to death.

[Cha]

19. Exactly, nini! I

don't like Michelle's coziness with bush but that doesn't stop me from loving her.

Besides I read more down thread from George that the "medal was awarded by the National Constitution Center, not Joe Biden himself. He presented it..

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=336466

It wasn't Biden's idea..

[betsuni]

30. It is now just THE SHIRT.

Biden didn't have to give Bush a shirt, therefore: both sides both sides both sides both sides both sides both sides.

[Cha]

37. LOL.. Too BAD for the SHIRT! Still Backing Biden..

Thanks, betsuni for the priceless update

[George II]

7. The medal was awarded by the National Constitution Center, not Joe Biden himself. He presented it..

....as the Chairman of the Board of Trustees.

https://constitutioncenter.org/

The National Constitution Center in Philadelphia brings together people of all ages and perspectives, across America and around the world, to learn about, debate, and celebrate the greatest vision of human freedom in history, the U.S. Constitution. A private, nonprofit organization, the Center serves as America’s leading platform for constitutional education and debate, fulfilling its congressional charter “to disseminate information about the U.S. Constitution on a nonpartisan basis.”

As the MUSEUM OF WE THE PEOPLE, the Center brings the Constitution to life for visitors of all ages through interactive programs and exhibits. As AMERICA’S TOWN HALL, the Center brings the leading conservative and liberal thought leaders together to debate the Constitution on all media platforms. As a HEADQUARTERS FOR CIVIC EDUCATION, the Center delivers the best educational programs and online resources that inspire citizens and engage all Americans in learning about the U.S. Constitution.

If people have a problem with that, it's not Biden's problem.

[emmaverybo]

17. Thanks for the context, always such a crucial element in any narrative.

[LakeArenal]

18. Yea... Context. Good stuff

[still_one]

28. This is just a pathetic excuse to BASH one of our Democratic nominees. I guess President Obama and

Michelle Obama must be quite "bad" according to some here:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/12/01/obamas-statement-george-hw-bush-vpx.cnn


Absolutely no surprise where these implied distortions and slurs are coming from

[jberryhill]

8. Yeah, and?

As noted above, he is chairman of the organization which gave the award to Bush.

[George II]

10. .

[Eric J in MN]

15. The Philadelphia Eagles shirt present was because

...Joe Biden thought George W. Bush deserved even more than a medal.

[George II]

20. He gave him the shirt because the ceremony was in Philadelphia and bush was going to the game...

....later that night between the Dallas (Texas) Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles.

Some people just don't get it.

[Eric J in MN]

32. So Joe Biden gave him the shirt to joke around with him?

George W. Bush gave us the Iraq War.

[jberryhill]

22. He got two for Christmas last year and regifted one

Who gives a shit, really.

[still_one]

29. You really think you are hurting one of our Democratic nominees by this bullshit?

Yawn!!!!!!!!

[betsuni]

9. This is disqualifying.

"He didn't have to give Bush anything."

[left-of-center2012]

12. OMG ! OMG ! OMG !

Sanders supporter smears Biden !

Boring

[George II]

16. Here's a President cozying up to a couple of right wingers:

And Obama accepted a shirt from rightwinger Robert Kraft. He didn't have to accept anything from Kraft. The horror!!!!

https://www.patriots.com/video/patriots-meet-president-obama-visit-white-house-227691

[melman]

21. Disturbing

[still_one]

23. OMG, President Obama and Michelle Obama talking to bush

at McCain's funeral.

Or how about this:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/12/01/obamas-statement-george-hw-bush-vpx.cnn

Or how about this:

Are some people that insecure that they feel so inclined to imply something nefarious because one of the Democratic candidates was in a ceremony

How pathetic

[Eko]

24. Oh ma gawd!

This gives me the vapors I tell ya, the vapors!.

[treestar]

25. A medal and a shirt

Big deal. Come on.

[JoeOtterbein]

27. Thanks for the post! Give the medal to someone who deserves it.

Not just backslapping the evil vice president who followed his personal hero, President Dick Cheney, right into Iraq for no good reason.

[beastie boy]

31. I can't believe it... was this supposed to be a Biden smear?

I guess "Bush was my opposition, not my enemy" doesn't compute with progressive revolutionaries.

[betsuni]

35. We're supposed to think: Bush/Iraq War. Biden gave nice shirt to Bush, therefore same warmonger.

But it doesn't work on us. It's a waste of time.

[SunsetDreams2]

34. Oh..

Ok.

[Peacetrain]

36. Okay..