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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:17 AM Mar 2019

Progressive demands put new pressures on Democrats

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435023-progressive-demands-put-new-pressures-on-democrats

Progressive demands put new pressures on Democrats

By Max Greenwood and Mike Lillis - 03/21/19 06:00 AM EDT

Democratic presidential hopefuls, under fierce pressure from liberal activists and base voters, are racing to embrace a series of progressive policy proposals that are quickly emerging as litmus tests ahead of 2020.

At town halls and meet-and-greets in early-primary states, the Democrats are being pushed to stake out positions on “Medicare for all” and the Green New Deal, the progressive plan to combat climate change and economic inequality.

Reparations for the descendants of slaves, the abolishment of the Electoral College and an expansion of the Supreme Court to counter President Trump’s nominees are additional issues that until recently would have been on the fringes of Democratic politics.

A number of liberals are cheering the discussion on.
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Some suggest a failure to back certain proposals could doom them in the primary.
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At the same time, these new litmus tests have prompted worries that candidates may be setting themselves up for trouble in the 2020 general election, which Trump is already casting as a referendum on socialism.
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While progressives warn that nominating an establishment-minded centrist candidate would give Trump a clear path to a second term in the White House, former Vice President Joe Biden — an undeclared moderate —leads virtually every early poll of the Democratic primary field.

Several liberal activists and strategists also are dismissive of the suggestion that Medicare for All or the Green New Deal have become litmus tests for Democrats, arguing that they did not expect candidates to unite behind a single piece of legislation or policy prescription.
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There’s little question that headwinds in the party are pushing things to the left, something likely to surface in races for the Senate, where a handful of centrist Democratic challengers will be working to distance themselves from the liberal priorities being debated on the presidential trail.
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Progressive demands put new pressures on Democrats (Original Post) nitpicker Mar 2019 OP
Good Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #1
Absolutely HopeAgain Mar 2019 #3
Republicans have moved too far to the Right. betsuni Mar 2019 #6
Thank you! Cha Mar 2019 #8
Just remembered I haven't checked on JPR for a while. betsuni Mar 2019 #9
Something remind you Cha Mar 2019 #11
Yes. betsuni Mar 2019 #12
.. Cha Mar 2019 #13
Just to be clear.. African Americans are Cha Mar 2019 #2
Pressure to repeat the slogans "Medicare for all" and "Green New Deal." betsuni Mar 2019 #4
:) Yes, we ALL do. All our candidates making use of those slogans Hortensis Mar 2019 #7
And those are clear cut slogans and starting points. doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #10
Ah, The Hill. That explains the "Dems in disarray" spin on the high-minded Hortensis Mar 2019 #5
Pressure on Democrats? RobertDevereaux Mar 2019 #14
We should treat the GND and Medicare as separate issues. Socal31 Mar 2019 #15
Yes, who will be canceling all their health care contracts ? R B Garr Mar 2019 #16
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Good
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:31 AM
Mar 2019

I believe a shift to the left is long overdue. We have in my opinion moved to far to the right as a party and a nation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
3. Absolutely
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:43 AM
Mar 2019

Not only where we belong, but the key to support of younger voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(25,456 posts)
6. Republicans have moved too far to the Right.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:50 AM
Mar 2019

If most Americans agree with health care for all and green jobs, higher taxes on corporations and the rich, criminal justice reform, higher minimum wages and other Democratic policies, and more people voted for the Democratic nominee in the last election (which had the most progressive platform in its history), how has the party and the country moved to the Right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,456 posts)
9. Just remembered I haven't checked on JPR for a while.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 07:07 AM
Mar 2019

Think I'll visit Opposite World for some laffs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,123 posts)
11. Something remind you
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 07:11 AM
Mar 2019

of it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,123 posts)
2. Just to be clear.. African Americans are
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:31 AM
Mar 2019

our Democratic Base.. especially Women.

This is just the latest report..

Voting Behavior and The Impact of The Black Vote in 2018 Mid-term Elections

snip//

The key takeaway of this poll is clear: mid-term 2018 wins across the country were dependent on voters of color, particularly Black voters.
•90% of Black voters supported Democratic House candidates, compared to just 53% of all voters; 45% of white voters; 73% of Latinos; and 72% of Asian voters

More..
https://advancementproject.org/news/new-polling-voting-behavior-and-the-impact-of-the-black-vote-in-2018-mid-term-elections/
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betsuni

(25,456 posts)
4. Pressure to repeat the slogans "Medicare for all" and "Green New Deal."
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:44 AM
Mar 2019

All Democrats want health care for all and care about climate change.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. :) Yes, we ALL do. All our candidates making use of those slogans
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:50 AM
Mar 2019

know there was no workable plan behind either, BUT they're proposing versions they believe can and should be implemented.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
10. And those are clear cut slogans and starting points.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 07:10 AM
Mar 2019

Part of our problem is that too often 1) we don't come up with simple, easy to remember catchphrases and slogans and 2) start from a point of realistic compromise and end up worse than we should because of it. Those 2 things solve both of those problems.

These 2 slogans are perfect starting points that people can remember. Yes, candidates should feel free to add specifics and nuances as they see fit. If that means that medicare for all means a solid medicare style public option (like most people wanted in the ACA) and not necessarily every person HAS to use medicare, then that is a valid point. If "Green New Deal" means just a general sweeping approach to how we deal with climate change and each candidate has their own specifics and approaches then what is the harm?

And if the worst that comes of it is that we start from a point of asking for everything and get some of what we want then what is the harm in that? People want someone who will tell them what we should aspire to, not list all the reasons we can't have nice things.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Ah, The Hill. That explains the "Dems in disarray" spin on the high-minded
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:46 AM
Mar 2019

vigorous debate over principles and policies, and great opportunities, that has vanished on the authoritarian right.

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RobertDevereaux

(1,856 posts)
14. Pressure on Democrats?
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 08:50 AM
Mar 2019

Rather, a welcome and much needed return to our Roosevelt roots, as in Eleanor and Franklin.

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Socal31

(2,484 posts)
15. We should treat the GND and Medicare as separate issues.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 08:53 AM
Mar 2019

Labor Unions are traditional allies that I am not ready to risk.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
16. Yes, who will be canceling all their health care contracts ?
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:04 AM
Mar 2019

Saying you are for labor and then reducing their benefits doesn’t match up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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