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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:13 AM Nov 2019

An early VP selection for candidates

Could we see a candidate pick a VP running mate before the primary is over? The arguments at this point with people I know is this. Biden won't excite the base to turnout and Warren and Sanders are not electable in the GE. Both probably have some validity. Do you think a solid VP pick would help Biden with the base or maybe Warren appear more electable in the GE? An example would be Biden picking Abrams or Warren maybe choosing Castro ( just examples folks). If we don't motivate and get huge GOTV with African Americans or Latinos- we don't stand a chance. So, would an early pick be beneficial to these candidates to shore up thier GE weaknesses and focus on the Trump billion dollar campaign machine * FYI.. Abrams said yesterday, in front of 700 Iowa voters, that she would happily run on a ticket if asked.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
1. I've always thought that would be a great idea. But i dont think anyone ever does it!
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:25 AM
Nov 2019

I guess because most VPs end up being one of the other candidates?

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,606 posts)
4. Actually they don't usually choose from the other candidates.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:59 AM
Nov 2019

Obama and Kerry did, but IIRC, Hillary, McCain, Gore, Mondale, Bush I and II, Bill C, didn’t.

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oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
8. Then i wonder why they dont. I think people may move to you if they liked your pick
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:49 PM
Nov 2019

Maybe they kinda like you, but then they LOVE your VP pick

If I were to vote in a presidential
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blm

(113,013 posts)
2. Indies support Sanders and Warren as much as Biden. ALL lead Trump
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:43 AM
Nov 2019

The ‘not electable’ spin is political jockeying, not reality.

Read more: https://www.theeagle.com/opinion/columnists/independents-are-pulling-away-from-trump/article_a80ec185-7a47-51e1-b8e4-3a7d89e094a3.html
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. "a candidate pick a VP running mate before the primary is over"
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:55 AM
Nov 2019

I think thar was done a couple times over the decades.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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samnsara

(17,605 posts)
5. i dont care if its a god damned loaf of bread we nominate..we dont need excitement ...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:07 AM
Nov 2019

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..we need commitment. I'm too old to be swayed by an exciting candidate..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
11. We need both excitement and commitment. You sell Biden short by presupposing that he won't be
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:10 PM
Nov 2019

able to get the base excited about voting out the president. How do you know this is the case? I'm saying this because you have chosen Biden as your preferred nominee.

If he isn't able to do that, I think it will dampen turnout of people who don't usually vote. We need every vote we can get so we win up and down the ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. I would be disappointed in her if she accepted
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:01 PM
Nov 2019

They have some significant policy disagreements and I would hate to see her sacrifice her values and fall in line with someone who has made some seriously destructive compromises.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,606 posts)
13. I wouldn't be disappointed, but I would be surprised.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:28 PM
Nov 2019

If she actually were offered the spot it wouldn't be such a bad idea to accept, since she would have an excellent opportunity to exert some influence. And, of course, whoever gets the VP position is in the best position to get the nomination and run the next time (Biden probably wouldn't run for a second term on account of his age). I don't think many people would or should turn down that offer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
10. I think they would rather tease who their VP nominee might be.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:06 PM
Nov 2019

Choosing a VP closes them off to courting the many groups who make up the democratic coalition. The candidates can have meetings with a variety of people and the media will dutifully report that so and so may be in the running for VP. This is exactly what happened when Biden met with Stacey Abrams. Simply being showy about meetings can propel a candidate into the news cycle for the day. Why would they cut themselves off from an easy way to make positive news?

This election cycle is so different, though, that we may see a VP pick before someone prevails in the primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
12. Remember, it isn't only the candidate's choice
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:00 PM
Nov 2019

The candidate "nominates" a running mate, but the VP is decided at the convention. It would be pretty unusual for the convention to not honor the candidate's choice, but it it possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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