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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts) Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:22 AM Mar 2019

Can the 20,000 tweets David Sirota deleted be recovered?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Can the 20,000 tweets David Sirota deleted be recovered? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 OP

Probably randomguy2021 Mar 2019 #1

It's a breach of journalistic ethics. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #2

He's not a journalist Renew Deal Mar 2019 #10

So why did he vehemently deny being a political operative, if it wasn't a violation of journalistic ehrnst Mar 2019 #14

Because he is a liar Renew Deal Mar 2019 #18

And now he's a speechwriter for Senator Sanders POTUS run. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #19

He was a journalist and now a high ranking campaign worker. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #20

+1000 Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #25

Because the staff a candidate hires are a measure of that candidate's integrity LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #4

It looks shady that he deleted 20,000 tweets. That's for sure. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #5

He can delete tweets but he can't delete the numerous opeds Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #27

I put an extra "o" on "to" yesterday. These machines do it. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #29

Who cares? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #6

Would you say "But who cares? He is NOT running for President" about Trump's campaign staff? ehrnst Mar 2019 #7

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #26

"Sirota's vitriolic tweets & blog posts also appear to be at odds with the ethos of the Sanders's ehrnst Mar 2019 #16

He's going to be the man writing speeches for the man running for president. WE CARE... George II Mar 2019 #31

This is just as much unethical for Sanders as it is for Sirota. Cha Mar 2019 #33

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #35

Your Deflection is Not Working. Cha Mar 2019 #39

Re-fighting the 2016 primary, are we? George II Mar 2019 #41

Looks like he was archived over 900 times, for what that is worth. Socal31 Mar 2019 #3

Interesting! So someone archived him? I was thinking that R B Garr Mar 2019 #9

They are actual bot snapshots. Socal31 Mar 2019 #11

Trashing a candidate on behalf of a rival candidate, while posing as a neutral commentator. ehrnst Mar 2019 #13

This is just as much unethical for Sanders as it is for Sirota. Cha Mar 2019 #34

Thanks for that! I think someone or an interested team R B Garr Mar 2019 #21

It's all archived. If you have the time, you can find MineralMan Mar 2019 #23

Thanks! I'm so glad they are all archived. I might try R B Garr Mar 2019 #24

These are the standard Wayback Machine archives! OhZone Mar 2019 #15

Seems Kamala owned a space in his head rent-free. Socal31 Mar 2019 #17

Kamala was one of the first to announce, but it looks like R B Garr Mar 2019 #22

Thanks. So he's deleted his tweets going way back to 2008, more than TEN years ago! I wonder.... George II Mar 2019 #42

Great question. I'm sure someone will get to the bottom R B Garr Mar 2019 #8

4 out of 20k, from January. Plenty more on the Way back Machine. Socal31 Mar 2019 #12

Those are calm compared to some I saw before he deleted them all. George II Mar 2019 #30

Do you remember the dates of the latest ones. Blue_true Mar 2019 #36

I don't remember any of the dates, but to be honest I never expected all of those.... George II Mar 2019 #38

Stuff on the web get archived. Blue_true Mar 2019 #40

Here's an archived tweet link.. Cha Mar 2019 #44

Here's one.. it can't be c/p.. it's Archived! Cha Mar 2019 #43

Oh ShutUP, sirotabot. Cha Mar 2019 #45

Putin has them. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #28

+1 BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #32

Vladimir, if you're listening. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #37

randomguy2021

(10 posts)

1. Probably

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:39 AM

Mar 2019

But who cares? He is NOT running for President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

2. It's a breach of journalistic ethics.

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:45 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)

10. He's not a journalist

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:21 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

14. So why did he vehemently deny being a political operative, if it wasn't a violation of journalistic

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:43 PM

Mar 2019

ethics? Disclosure is a basic tenet of even being a columnist....

And why did he feel a need to scrub his twitter account?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)

18. Because he is a liar

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:57 PM

Mar 2019

and a hack

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

19. And now he's a speechwriter for Senator Sanders POTUS run. (nt)

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 01:13 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

20. He was a journalist and now a high ranking campaign worker.

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 01:24 PM

Mar 2019

His ethics in his former job affect his ethics in his current one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

25. +1000

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 03:49 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)

4. Because the staff a candidate hires are a measure of that candidate's integrity

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:55 AM

Mar 2019

Last edited Thu Mar 21, 2019, 04:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Does that really need to be explained?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

5. It looks shady that he deleted 20,000 tweets. That's for sure.

Reply to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:57 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)

27. He can delete tweets but he can't delete the numerous opeds

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 03:56 PM

Mar 2019

he has had published.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)

29. I put an extra "o" on "to" yesterday. These machines do it. n/t

Reply to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 04:03 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)

6. Who cares?

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 11:43 AM

Mar 2019

LOL plenty of people care. You’ll be hearing a lot about Sirota during the primary. Best get used to that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

7. Would you say "But who cares? He is NOT running for President" about Trump's campaign staff?

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 11:51 AM

Mar 2019

Last edited Thu Mar 21, 2019, 03:57 PM - Edit history (1)

A POTUS candidate hired this person who, by virtue of being their political operative while continuing to write, without disclosing that, was violating journalistic ethics.

A POTUS candidate was the person initiating and perpetuating the arrangement. Imagine if Hillary had done that in 2016.

The journalist not only failed to disclose that he was a political operative, he balfaced denied that he was working for the candidate, accusing people who pointed that that he was a political operative of being "a filthy liar" and "mentally incapacitated".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

26. +1

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 03:49 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

16. "Sirota's vitriolic tweets & blog posts also appear to be at odds with the ethos of the Sanders's

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:50 PM

Mar 2019

campaign, which has stressed that it will “respectfully engage” other Democratic candidates. His hiring as a speechwriter also appears to be an acknowledgment that Sanders, whose extemporaneous public remarks have been a sign of his authenticity, will at times be scripted like other politicians." - from the WAPO article.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

31. He's going to be the man writing speeches for the man running for president. WE CARE...

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 04:10 PM

Mar 2019

...as all of us should care.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,138 posts)

33. This is just as much unethical for Sanders as it is for Sirota.

Reply to randomguy2021 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:55 PM

Mar 2019

Link to tweet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Response to Cha (Reply #33)

Name removed Message auto-removed

Cha

(297,138 posts)

39. Your Deflection is Not Working.

Reply to Post removed (Reply #35)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 09:39 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

41. Re-fighting the 2016 primary, are we?

Reply to Post removed (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:45 AM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Socal31

(2,484 posts)

3. Looks like he was archived over 900 times, for what that is worth.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 10:51 AM

Mar 2019

https://web.archive.org/web/*/Twitter.com/davidsirota

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

9. Interesting! So someone archived him? I was thinking that

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:07 PM

Mar 2019

those who responded to him would have that portion saved on their tweets, kind of like any posting on a thread archives the entire string.

Someone will uncover these.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Socal31

(2,484 posts)

11. They are actual bot snapshots.

Reply to R B Garr (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:29 PM

Mar 2019

Here are some I was able to easily find from January:

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

13. Trashing a candidate on behalf of a rival candidate, while posing as a neutral commentator.

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:41 PM

Mar 2019

The opposite of ethical journalism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,138 posts)

34. This is just as much unethical for Sanders as it is for Sirota.

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:56 PM

Mar 2019

Link to tweet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

21. Thanks for that! I think someone or an interested team

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 01:25 PM

Mar 2019

will uncover enough of these to catch him in some whoppers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)

23. It's all archived. If you have the time, you can find

Reply to R B Garr (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 01:42 PM

Mar 2019

them all. I don't have the time. That he deleted 20,000 tweets is plenty of information for me. Why would someone do that? I think we all know the answer to that.

But, they'll come out, as needed. I'm sure there are people going though them all already.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

24. Thanks! I'm so glad they are all archived. I might try

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 03:25 PM

Mar 2019

to unearth a few, but I would bet he’s made himself a target now by doing this. I think he called people “filthy liars” for questioning when he really started working on Sanders campaign, so I’m sure that was an invitation for some skilled internet types to check him out.

I agree in a way that just the act of deleting 20,000 of them is quite enough information in itself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

OhZone

(3,212 posts)

15. These are the standard Wayback Machine archives!

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:49 PM

Mar 2019

Someone should comb through them and find some of his most nasty comments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Socal31

(2,484 posts)

17. Seems Kamala owned a space in his head rent-free.

Reply to OhZone (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:54 PM

Mar 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

22. Kamala was one of the first to announce, but it looks like

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 01:27 PM

Mar 2019

he moved on to different targets as they announced, like Beto.

He should expect to be examined as much he puts out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

42. Thanks. So he's deleted his tweets going way back to 2008, more than TEN years ago! I wonder....

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:49 AM

Mar 2019

....what he has to hide? But as they say, "you can run but you can't hide!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

8. Great question. I'm sure someone will get to the bottom

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:03 PM

Mar 2019

of it. I want to read each of those tweets now. Transparency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Socal31

(2,484 posts)

12. 4 out of 20k, from January. Plenty more on the Way back Machine.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 12:36 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

30. Those are calm compared to some I saw before he deleted them all.

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 04:09 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

36. Do you remember the dates of the latest ones.

Reply to George II (Reply #30)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 09:17 PM

Mar 2019

I think that I remember him attacking Beto in February as a journalist. But the Sanders campaign manager says that he worked with the Sanders campaign for several months.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

38. I don't remember any of the dates, but to be honest I never expected all of those....

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 09:24 PM

Mar 2019

....to be deleted. I guess I naively thought they could be referred to at any time. I was wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

40. Stuff on the web get archived.

Reply to George II (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 21, 2019, 09:41 PM

Mar 2019

They exist, but you will have to search for where they are archived. He may have successfully deleted some that were not archived and they are gone unless someone that follow him saved them, but that number is likely very small.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,138 posts)

44. Here's an archived tweet link..

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #40)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:37 AM

Mar 2019

David Sirota‏

Verified account
@davidsirota
Hypothesis: Pushing a war with Russia is the new full employment program for Dem Party operatives and bots

http://archive.li/nPjJp

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,138 posts)

43. Here's one.. it can't be c/p.. it's Archived!

Reply to George II (Reply #38)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:35 AM

Mar 2019

David Sirota‏

Verified account
@davidsirota
Hypothesis: Pushing a war with Russia is the new full employment program for Dem Party operatives and bots

http://archive.li/nPjJp

Backatcha SirotaBot!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,138 posts)

45. Oh ShutUP, sirotabot.

Reply to Socal31 (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:39 AM

Mar 2019

David Sirota‏

Verified account
@davidsirota
Hypothesis: Pushing a war with Russia is the new full employment program for Dem Party operatives and bots

http://archive.li/nPjJp

Mahalo, SoCal