Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum"AP Source: Deval Patrick Tells Allies He Plans 2020 Bid." Official Announcement Before Fri.
- Seattle Times, Nov. 13, 2019. WASHINGTON (AP) Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick is telling allies that he will join the 2020 presidential race, according to two people familiar with his plans. An official announcement is expected before Friday, the filing deadline for the New Hampshire primary.
His move injects a new layer of uncertainty into the contest less than three months before the first votes. Patrick, a popular two-term Democratic governor with a moderate bearing and close ties to former President Barack Obama, is starting late but with a compelling life story and political resume.
The two people with knowledge of Patricks plans spoke to The Associated Press on Wednesday on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. In addition to Patrick, Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York City has taken steps toward launching a last-minute presidential campaign, filing candidate papers in Alabama and Arkansas.
The moves reflect uncertainty about the direction of the Democratic contest. Joe Biden entered the race as the front-runner and maintains significant support from black voters, whose backing is critical in a Democratic primary.
More, https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/ap-source-deval-patrick-tells-allies-he-plans-2020-bid/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deval_Patrick
- The Guardian, "Former Mass. Gov. Deval Patrick to Join Democratic 2020 Race," Patrick believes he can appeal to both moderates and liberals. Move reflects centrist fears over lackluster Biden campaign. Nov. 13, 2019.
The former Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick has told Democratic party leaders and confidants that he will run for president and join an already crowded field, according to media reports. It is thought that Patrick will kick off his campaign on Thursday with a video, and then make an appearance in New Hampshire, so he can file paperwork to get on the states vital early primary ballot, reported CNN.
Patricks last-minute entry into the race marks yet another change in the Democratic contest where nearly two dozen hopefuls have been competing for nearly a year, reported the New York Times. Nor is he likely to be the only late entrant as fears grow among centrist Democrats about the lackluster campaign of former vice-president Joe Biden and the stronger campaigns of the progressive senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. The former New York mayor and billionaire businessman Michael Bloomberg recently submitted paperwork for Alabamas Democratic primary.
Patrick, who in late 2018 decided not to run, has already told Biden about his interest in the contest, according to the New York Times. Patrick is only the second elected black governor in US history and has told confidants that he would conduct a campaign similar to that of Barack Obama in 2008 emphasizing unity. He has reportedly told some key Democrats that none of the other contenders have gathered wind, leaving space for a candidate who can appeal to liberals and moderates alike...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/13/deval-patrick-2020-democrats-former-massachusetts-governor
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueTsunami2018
(3,490 posts)Whats the game here? Hes not going to win. Hes not going to come close.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Why is he running ? I guess he' ll hurt Warren in MA ...Beyond that, he will have no impact on the race at all .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
appalachiablue
(41,113 posts)Flexibility is a virtue!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,336 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)Most people don't even know who he is
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maxsolomon
(33,275 posts)I don't know if he's Charismatic.
Unfortunately, the current field lacks that quality, and a successful Democratic Presidential candidate needs it, in spades.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maxsolomon
(33,275 posts)i'm all ears.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And Obama took a lot of heat (including from Hillary Clinton's campaign) for "plagiarism" until Patrick made clear that he himself had suggested that Obama use those lines.
On Saturday in Wisconsin, Obama said, "Don't tell me words don't matter. 'I have a dream.' Just words. 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.' Just words. 'We have nothing to fear but fear itself.' Just words. Just speeches."
Obama has conceded that he should have credited Patrick. "I was on the stump. He [Deval] suggested we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I'm sure I should have. Didn't this time."
In 1988 Sen. Joseph Biden was driven out of the Democratic nomination race after he used parts of a speech from British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock, without crediting him.
Patrick said, "This isn't that," referring to what occurred with Biden. "He could have cited me in Wisconsin and everyone would have said 'who is that?' Nobody's policies end up on the side of monuments or great buildings in Washington. I think it's a great power."
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4310143&page=1
Here's the pertinent part of Patrick's "Just Words" speech:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.
Just words.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
Just words. Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Just words.
I have a dream.
Just words.
Let me say it before you do: I am no Dr. King, no President Kennedy, no FDR, no Thomas Jefferson. But I do know that the right words, spoken from the heart with conviction, with a vision of a better place and a faith in the unseen, are a call to action.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)I live in Mass, I wasn't at all impressed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)and he doesn't appear to me to have the quotient of charisma he would need especially as he doesn't have a meaningful constituency or name recognition
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maxsolomon
(33,275 posts)I'll own my Ageism. I thought HRC was too old, and I know DJT is too old.
Obama had no meaningful constituency or name recognition when he gave that convention speech in 2004, but I immediately recognized that he had the charisma needed to win the Presidency.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)and there is nothing in what she does that would be disqualified by age nor HRC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maxsolomon
(33,275 posts)It's a different animal entirely than House Rep.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)to each his own
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maxsolomon
(33,275 posts)Do you have a cut off?
Jimmy Carter can still run for another term. If you think he's too old or frail, then we share that conceit. Just not the same line in the sand.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,349 posts)Bloomy, Deval, anyone else, has missed my deadline.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He definitely shares the Obama charisma, and could have a real shot at at least taking a lot of support from the moderates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)Some very influential political operatives have convinced him to run. Probably connected to Obama circle. Obama was big on Deval early but Deval declined and isn't really an attention seeking guy. There has to be some worry within some circles about our current candidates. Obama is not going to endorse Warren or Sanders and probably isn't thrilled about Biden per se. Deval was talked into this
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
appalachiablue
(41,113 posts)fears' are driving stuff lately..The field is becoming quite a stew.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ritapria
(1,812 posts)Many people close to Obama were prepared to get behind him last year ..I would guess they don't give a fig what he is doing at this late date .No one outside his family could care less what he is doing now .. It's a free country....If he wants to waste his time, that is his perogative
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,750 posts)Thats just an opinion flying around.
If you are referring to Obama telling Biden he didnt have to do this one, that was in regard to the 2016 election and two, that entire story was an effort to smack Biden down early on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)Let me just say Biden isn't Obama's first choice. That's better. That's public knowledge . I assure you, Deval is being pushed by that circle. Maybe not Obama directly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,750 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Defend that statement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,257 posts)The former president is reportedly worried Biden will "embarrass himself."
https://www.gq.com/story/obama-to-biden-dont-run#
Obama and Bidens Relationship Looks Rosy. It Wasnt Always That Simple.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/us/politics/biden-obama-history.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nothing but supposition?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,257 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,365 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,371 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zentrum
(9,865 posts)But in an annoying way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,381 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)He's going nowhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,750 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 13, 2019, 09:54 PM - Edit history (1)
bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/11/ His record in corporate America has come under close scrutiny since he left office; the conclusions that have been reached wont play well in this electorate. I just dont see how his history with Ameriquest & Bain Capital gets spun into a net positive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)A politician with at least some experience in the private sector is a good thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)A little late but why not hear what he has to say?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SKKY
(11,802 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)"Valerie Jarrett, Obamas longtime confidante and senior White House adviser; David Simas, Obamas former White House political director and the current CEO of the Obama Foundation, who previously worked as deputy chief of staff to Patrick when he was governor of Massachusetts; and David Axelrod, the former Obama political strategistspent time last year trying to encourage Patrick to declare his candidacy for 2020. Two years ago, before the Democratic field began to coalesce, the ex-president himself urged Patrick to run, Obama aides told me at the time."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Gov. Deval Patrick: This Is 'Election of a Lifetime'
Sep 4, 2012
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MustLoveBeagles
(11,587 posts)Still I'll try to keep an open mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden