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brooklynite

(94,499 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:50 AM Nov 2019

California Dems question whether it's time for Harris to drop out

Politico

But in the halls and meeting rooms of the Long Beach Convention Center, many of the battle-scarred Democratic insiders — strategists, elected officials, campaign operatives — had a far more caustic view of her chances, suggesting that Harris’ team has already let slip away her shot at the White House.

With California polls strongly suggesting she might not win, place — or even show — in her home state, many privately expressed the view that Harris should begin seriously considering leaving the race to avoid total embarrassment in the state’s early March primary. Her continued weakness in the presidential contest could even have a more damaging effect, several said — encouraging a primary challenger in 2022, when Harris is up for reelection.

“I don’t think she can last until California,’’ says Garry South, a veteran strategist who has advised Newsom and former presidential candidate Joe Lieberman. “I don’t wish her ill, but she’s got a decision to make: you limp in here and get killed in your home state, and it damages your reputation nationally. Or you pull out before the primary like Jerry Brown did in 1980 … and you at least avoid the spectacle of being decisively rejected.”

Candidates have until late December to formally pull their names off the March 3 primary ballot in California. But some suggest Harris can withdraw from the presidential contest after Iowa if she fares poorly there — which would leave her on the California ballot, but enable her to justify the acute embarrassment of a distant finish in California by having left the race weeks beforehand.
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California Dems question whether it's time for Harris to drop out (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
I wish she would drop out LeftTurn3623 Nov 2019 #1
She is getting the Beto treatment Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #2
She'll probably cling in another month at least madville Nov 2019 #4
Of course it's time for her to drop out madville Nov 2019 #3
Her burn rate was pretty dire in Q3 redqueen Nov 2019 #5
I'm a CA Democrat and I think I'll make another donation to her campaign, just for this bullshit. TeamPooka Nov 2019 #6
I wonder if we're going to get "Buttigieg should drop out" stories if his approval rating... SaschaHM Nov 2019 #7
Feel free to post one if you see it... brooklynite Nov 2019 #8
 

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
1. I wish she would drop out
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:24 AM
Nov 2019

along with several of the candidates ( Klobuchar, Booker, Gabbard) they have no real shot and the debate stage has too many

Its crazy what happen to Harris campaign. When she announced she was my first choice out of the gate. But for what ever reason and Im not sure why I switched support and now she is like 5th in my personal order.

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Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
2. She is getting the Beto treatment
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:36 AM
Nov 2019

Urged on by the media to jump in the race. Treated as a real contender to begin with. Then after building her up they knocked her down.

Tulsi's attacks in the second debate were distortions and some outright lies. Kamala made a mistake not responding directly but you know, everyone else just stood and watched. Because they feared Kamala after what she did to Joe in June. Tulsi knocked her down a peg and everyone is grateful.

Also she was vague on her idea of Medicare For All and got criticised for flip flopping. But hey...two of the four frontrunners have subsequently flip flopped and it's crickets. Pete was for it before he was against it and Warren literally said "I'm with Bernie" on the stage only to take a path Bernie has criticised.

I have more faith in Kamala sharing a debate stage with Trump than our frontrunners because she excels in that cross examination environment. I think it's a damn shame she has been ignored.

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madville

(7,408 posts)
4. She'll probably cling in another month at least
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:41 AM
Nov 2019

I just hope she doesn’t attack and damage our eventual nominee in the upcoming debate for no reason since it’s not going to help what’s left of her campaign.

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madville

(7,408 posts)
3. Of course it's time for her to drop out
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:38 AM
Nov 2019

Hopefully anyone advising her will be honest enough to tell her the truth that she has zero chance and should bow out so she can save face and just try again in 8 years.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. Her burn rate was pretty dire in Q3
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:02 PM
Nov 2019

And her polling seems to be going mostly in one direction

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TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
6. I'm a CA Democrat and I think I'll make another donation to her campaign, just for this bullshit.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:15 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
7. I wonder if we're going to get "Buttigieg should drop out" stories if his approval rating...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:18 AM
Nov 2019

and vote share among AAs doesn't climb over 6%.

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brooklynite

(94,499 posts)
8. Feel free to post one if you see it...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:56 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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